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Old 31-07-2004, 07:27 AM
Graeme
 
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I wonder if anyone can answer this question?

I have three bottles of sherry (amontillado and fino) that have been
stored for some years in the mistaken belief (not mine) that they
would mature. I'd say that they have been kept for about 5-7 years. I
can see plenty of fine sediment and oxidization (darkening of the
fino) when held up to the light.

These bottles have never been opened and the corks seem fine. Would
they still be drinkable? If so, how should I proceed?

Many thanks.

Graeme

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Old 31-07-2004, 08:38 AM
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"Graeme" wrote in message
om...
I wonder if anyone can answer this question?

I have three bottles of sherry (amontillado and fino) that have been
stored for some years in the mistaken belief (not mine) that they
would mature. I'd say that they have been kept for about 5-7 years. I
can see plenty of fine sediment and oxidization (darkening of the
fino) when held up to the light.

These bottles have never been opened and the corks seem fine. Would
they still be drinkable? If so, how should I proceed?

Many thanks.

Graeme


They are probably drinkable, as opposed to manzanillas which would not be. I
remeber drinking some 45 yo Seppelts sherry that was waylaid in a winery
corner which was quite nice.

Ron Lel


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Old 31-07-2004, 08:38 AM
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"Graeme" wrote in message
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I wonder if anyone can answer this question?

I have three bottles of sherry (amontillado and fino) that have been
stored for some years in the mistaken belief (not mine) that they
would mature. I'd say that they have been kept for about 5-7 years. I
can see plenty of fine sediment and oxidization (darkening of the
fino) when held up to the light.

These bottles have never been opened and the corks seem fine. Would
they still be drinkable? If so, how should I proceed?

Many thanks.

Graeme


They are probably drinkable, as opposed to manzanillas which would not be. I
remeber drinking some 45 yo Seppelts sherry that was waylaid in a winery
corner which was quite nice.

Ron Lel


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Old 31-07-2004, 08:58 AM
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Many finos tend to lose freshness and become a bit stale when they are
stored for several years. In the US I try to buy fino from a store that
has good turnover and drink it soon after purchase.

I would just stand the bottles up for several days or a few weeks to
hopefully allow most of the sediment you mentioned to fall to the bottom
of the bottle. Then pour or decant the fino very carefully. There is
considerable variation in brands of fino, so it is difficult to guess
what kind of shape it is in. Most of the best finos are quite dry, often
are best somewhat chilled, and can be drunk with a wide variety of foods
as well as alone.

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Old 31-07-2004, 11:56 AM
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"Sammy" wrote:

BTW, Ron, Manzanilla is Fino: just Fino from the seaside rather
than the town


nitpickmode

You are right, normally Manzanilla is Manzanilla Fina, although
Manzanilla Amontillada does exist.

/nitpickmode

M.


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Old 31-07-2004, 11:56 AM
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"Sammy" wrote:

BTW, Ron, Manzanilla is Fino: just Fino from the seaside rather
than the town


nitpickmode

You are right, normally Manzanilla is Manzanilla Fina, although
Manzanilla Amontillada does exist.

/nitpickmode

M.
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Old 31-07-2004, 11:56 AM
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"Sammy" wrote:

BTW, Ron, Manzanilla is Fino: just Fino from the seaside rather
than the town


nitpickmode

You are right, normally Manzanilla is Manzanilla Fina, although
Manzanilla Amontillada does exist.

/nitpickmode

M.
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Old 31-07-2004, 12:27 PM
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"Graeme" wrote in message
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I wonder if anyone can answer this question?

I have three bottles of sherry (amontillado and fino) that have been
stored for some years in the mistaken belief (not mine) that they
would mature. I'd say that they have been kept for about 5-7 years. I
can see plenty of fine sediment and oxidization (darkening of the
fino) when held up to the light.

These bottles have never been opened and the corks seem fine. Would
they still be drinkable? If so, how should I proceed?

Hi Graeme

The Fino is almost certainly undrinkable, they are made to be drunk as soon
as they are bottled (or before) and begin to deteriorate straight away.
The Amontillado (a Fino which has been allowed to oxidize before bottling)
*could* be okay.
No harm in finding out, please let us know what they're like.

BTW, Ron, Manzanilla is Fino: just Fino from the seaside rather than the
town :-).

Regards
Sammy


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"Graeme" wrote in message
om...
I wonder if anyone can answer this question?

I have three bottles of sherry (amontillado and fino) that have been
stored for some years in the mistaken belief (not mine) that they
would mature. I'd say that they have been kept for about 5-7 years. I
can see plenty of fine sediment and oxidization (darkening of the
fino) when held up to the light.

These bottles have never been opened and the corks seem fine. Would
they still be drinkable? If so, how should I proceed?

Hi Graeme

The Fino is almost certainly undrinkable, they are made to be drunk as soon
as they are bottled (or before) and begin to deteriorate straight away.
The Amontillado (a Fino which has been allowed to oxidize before bottling)
*could* be okay.
No harm in finding out, please let us know what they're like.

BTW, Ron, Manzanilla is Fino: just Fino from the seaside rather than the
town :-).

Regards
Sammy


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Old 31-07-2004, 08:25 PM
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In ,
Michael Pronay typed:


"Sammy" wrote:

BTW, Ron, Manzanilla is Fino: just Fino from the seaside

rather
than the town


nitpickmode

You are right, normally Manzanilla is Manzanilla Fina, although
Manzanilla Amontillada does exist.



Manzanilla is also chamomile tea, as I learned to my chagrin at a
bar in Madrid some years ago.

Tea (chamomile or otherwise) was what *not* what I expected to
get when I asked for manzanilla.

--
Ken Blake
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Old 31-07-2004, 08:25 PM
Ken Blake
 
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In ,
Michael Pronay typed:


"Sammy" wrote:

BTW, Ron, Manzanilla is Fino: just Fino from the seaside

rather
than the town


nitpickmode

You are right, normally Manzanilla is Manzanilla Fina, although
Manzanilla Amontillada does exist.



Manzanilla is also chamomile tea, as I learned to my chagrin at a
bar in Madrid some years ago.

Tea (chamomile or otherwise) was what *not* what I expected to
get when I asked for manzanilla.

--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup


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Old 01-08-2004, 08:41 AM
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"Ken Blake" wrote:

Manzanilla is also chamomile tea, as I learned to my chagrin at
a bar in Madrid some years ago.


Yeah, the same happen to me at a camping site and in a restaurant,
both in Pamplona, although in both cases the Manzanilla was listed
under the sherries. In the latter case - after my first attempt at
the camping site - even ordering "vino manzanilla" didn't help.

M.
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:58 AM
Mike Tommasi
 
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:25:50 -0700, "Ken Blake"
wrote:

In ,
Michael Pronay typed:


"Sammy" wrote:

BTW, Ron, Manzanilla is Fino: just Fino from the seaside

rather
than the town


nitpickmode

You are right, normally Manzanilla is Manzanilla Fina, although
Manzanilla Amontillada does exist.



Manzanilla is also chamomile tea, as I learned to my chagrin at a
bar in Madrid some years ago.

Tea (chamomile or otherwise) was what *not* what I expected to
get when I asked for manzanilla.


In fact, you should have said that "manzanilla" is also the name of a
type of sherry. Because "manzanilla" means first and foremost,
chamomile... ;-)

Mike


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Mike Tommasi
 
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:25:50 -0700, "Ken Blake"
wrote:

In ,
Michael Pronay typed:


"Sammy" wrote:

BTW, Ron, Manzanilla is Fino: just Fino from the seaside

rather
than the town


nitpickmode

You are right, normally Manzanilla is Manzanilla Fina, although
Manzanilla Amontillada does exist.



Manzanilla is also chamomile tea, as I learned to my chagrin at a
bar in Madrid some years ago.

Tea (chamomile or otherwise) was what *not* what I expected to
get when I asked for manzanilla.


In fact, you should have said that "manzanilla" is also the name of a
type of sherry. Because "manzanilla" means first and foremost,
chamomile... ;-)

Mike


Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail
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Old 01-08-2004, 12:32 PM
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"Ken Blake" skrev i melding
...
Manzanilla is also chamomile tea, as I learned to my chagrin at a
bar in Madrid some years ago.

Tea (chamomile or otherwise) was what *not* what I expected to
get when I asked for manzanilla.

me too, in Palma.
Anders




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