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Nils Gustaf Lindgren 02-05-2004 10:33 AM

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Hello;
People with a good memory, or, at least, equipped with a googleable
computer, may recall the Blaxta Ice, arguably the worst wine at the highest
price I´ve ever had the bad fortune to come across. Today, the producers of
the Blaxta Vineyards bring us a new product - an Ice Wine made form Cabernet
Franc. Apparently, they are particularly happy that they have managed to
keep the red color, apparently a bit of a problem with ice wines made from
blue grapes ... oh yes, and there is a price tag - apparnetly, according to
my sources, the same per cl as you pay for Ch d´Yquem.

Oh boy, I can´t wait.

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

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winemonger 02-05-2004 09:02 PM

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>Apparently, they are particularly happy that they have managed to
> keep the red color, apparently a bit of a problem with ice wines made from
> blue grapes ... oh yes, and there is a price tag - apparnetly, according to
> my sources, the same per cl as you pay for Ch d´Yquem.


Sounds delightful! A must buy!
I did recently try an icewine made from Blaufränkisch, and while it
certainly wasn't deep red, it did retain a bit of a blush. I shall
take from your post that the vintner must be very proud of that fact.
It was actually quite good, and thankfully cost nowhere even in the
neighborhood of the Chateau.

Do the Swedes make wine with Chasselas?

Mark Lipton 03-05-2004 04:56 AM

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren wrote:

> Hello;
> People with a good memory, or, at least, equipped with a googleable
> computer, may recall the Blaxta Ice, arguably the worst wine at the highest
> price I´ve ever had the bad fortune to come across. Today, the producers of
> the Blaxta Vineyards bring us a new product - an Ice Wine made form Cabernet
> Franc. Apparently, they are particularly happy that they have managed to
> keep the red color, apparently a bit of a problem with ice wines made from
> blue grapes ... oh yes, and there is a price tag - apparnetly, according to
> my sources, the same per cl as you pay for Ch d´Yquem.
>
> Oh boy, I can´t wait.


So how many cases did you order, Nils? :P

Mark Lipton


Nils Gustaf Lindgren 03-05-2004 06:27 AM

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"winemonger" > skrev i meddelandet
m...
> >Apparently, they are particularly happy that they have managed to
> > keep the red color, apparently a bit of a problem with ice wines made

from
> > blue grapes ... oh yes, and there is a price tag - apparnetly, according

to
> > my sources, the same per cl as you pay for Ch d´Yquem.

>
> Sounds delightful! A must buy!


;)))

> Do the Swedes make wine with Chasselas?


Not that I know. The Blaxta Ice I already tasted (ugh!) was made from Vidal;
some optimists are trying Chardonnay but has not gone on market yet; one
vintner on Gotland uses some obscure grapes suited for colder climates, from
Germany I believe- they are introduced today with their first commercial
offering, 129 SEK for 500 ml, and the description in the Tastevins member
journal is, frankly, 'don´t buy - do, very definitely, NOT buy this wine'.
Terms best translated as 'humbug' and 'shame' are used in other reports.

Our optimist neighbour brothers and sisters, the Norwegians, grow Chardonnay
on the banks of the Oslo fiord and have produced a 'Cuvée Edvard Munch' at a
price comparable to a Meursault village, but it appears to be a one off -
haven´t heard of any new vintages, and haven´t tasted it.

Perhaps one shouldn´t overestimate the effects of global warming - one thing
it does not inevitably lead to, at least, not just yet, is Scanidnaivan
quality wine production (wine made from grapes, that is, because a few
'wines' made from fruit _have_ bbeen produced - or at least, one).

HTH

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

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Topi Kuusinen 03-05-2004 02:50 PM

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren wrote:
> Perhaps one shouldn´t overestimate the effects of global warming -
> one thing it does not inevitably lead to, at least, not just yet, is
> Scanidnaivan quality wine production (wine made from grapes, that is,
> because a few 'wines' made from fruit _have_ bbeen produced - or at
> least, one).
>


All fruit and berry "wines" are not totally unpalatable (even though I
agree that most that I've tried are just that, at least here in Finland).

The one outstanding exception to substandard berry wines I know of is
the red wine made in the Valamo Orthodox monastery. It's made both as a
semi-dry and sweet versions and it's quite wine-like; in fact, it even
tastes like grape wine. In my opinion it is a bit like port, but without
the hotness of the brandy.

Cheers,

-Topi Kuusinen, Finland


Anders Tørneskog 03-05-2004 08:00 PM

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"Nils Gustaf Lindgren" > skrev i melding
...
> Our optimist neighbour brothers and sisters, the Norwegians, grow

Chardonnay
> on the banks of the Oslo fiord and have produced a 'Cuvée Edvard Munch' at

a
> price comparable to a Meursault village, but it appears to be a one off -
> haven´t heard of any new vintages, and haven´t tasted it.
>

I don't really know whether they did a Chardonnay, but they did make red
wine with, in fact some acclaim in spite of a hefty price tag, something
like 150USD a bottle. That winery on the west side of the fiord is now
defunct, however. On the east side rumours are that a guy is planting
vines. That farm has a solid basis in hand made cheeses and vegetables, so
they might just make it. Future will show.
Anders



Tom S 04-05-2004 05:22 AM

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"Anders Tørneskog" > wrote in message
...
> That winery on the west side of the fiord is now
> defunct, however. On the east side rumours are that a guy is planting
> vines. That farm has a solid basis in hand made cheeses and vegetables,

so
> they might just make it. Future will show.


That's interesting. Could be the near ultimate cool climate region. Give
global warming a few years and that might turn out to be one of the new Côte
d'Ors...

I'm also thinking coastal Alaska, Maine or Nova Scotia - possibly within my
lifetime. No joke. They may end up planting Oregon to Rhone varietals and
Napa to raisins. :^(

Tom S



Tunch 06-05-2004 09:04 PM

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"Tom S" > wrote in message .com>...
> "Anders Tørneskog" > wrote in message
> ...
> > That winery on the west side of the fiord is now
> > defunct, however. On the east side rumours are that a guy is planting
> > vines. That farm has a solid basis in hand made cheeses and vegetables,

> so
> > they might just make it. Future will show.

>
> That's interesting. Could be the near ultimate cool climate region. Give
> global warming a few years and that might turn out to be one of the new Côte
> d'Ors...
>
> I'm also thinking coastal Alaska, Maine or Nova Scotia - possibly within my
> lifetime. No joke. They may end up planting Oregon to Rhone varietals and
> Napa to raisins. :^(
>
> Tom S



So, what they gonna plant in Rhone or Bordeaux in near future ??
African or Sahara Desert varieties ?? By the way, know any good
African (not S African) varieties ?

Anders Tørneskog 06-05-2004 11:12 PM

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"Tom S" > skrev i melding
. com...
>
>
> That's interesting. Could be the near ultimate cool climate region. Give
> global warming a few years and that might turn out to be one of the new

Côte
> d'Ors...
>

Coincidentally, reports are that this April was the warmest on record...
BTW, today's temperatures in Paris 54F, Rome 60F, Oslo 65F and Trondheim,
300 miles north of Oslo: ...tataaa... 77F!?
:-) Anders



Mike Tommasi 07-05-2004 06:55 AM

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On Thu, 06 May 2004 22:12:45 GMT, "Anders Tørneskog"
> wrote:

>
>"Tom S" > skrev i melding
.com...
>>
>>
>> That's interesting. Could be the near ultimate cool climate region. Give
>> global warming a few years and that might turn out to be one of the new

>Côte
>> d'Ors...
>>

>Coincidentally, reports are that this April was the warmest on record...
>BTW, today's temperatures in Paris 54F, Rome 60F, Oslo 65F and Trondheim,
>300 miles north of Oslo: ...tataaa... 77F!?


I'm going through temperature shock. Last sunday I was around San
Diego, with 100F.

Yesterday morning in coastal Provence, it was 46F.

Mike

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

Emery Davis 07-05-2004 08:25 AM

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On Fri, 07 May 2004 07:55:42 +0200, Mike Tommasi > said:

[]
] I'm going through temperature shock. Last sunday I was around San
] Diego, with 100F.
]

Lucky you!

] Yesterday morning in coastal Provence, it was 46F.
]

Indeed, frost last 2 nights. I'm off to chop wood, not something I usually
spend a lot of time at this time of year... Me grape vine thinks it's spring,
though.

-E

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