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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:55:15 -0000, "Steve O" >
wrote: wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:08:25 -0000, "Steve O" > >> wrote: >> >>> Do you work in an office or not? >> >> What's the diference? >> >> Can you explain? > >I can't be bothered. >I lost track of what we were arguing about in the first place. Attention Deficit Disorder. Another serious side-effect of not smoking. Have a cigar. |
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>>>>> Attention Deficit Disorder.
Attention Def.... .....what was that? |
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:25:42 -0500, Fred wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:06:29 -0000, "Steve O" > > scribbled: > >> [quoted text muted] > > Miscarriages are more common among women who smoke. This effect has > been known since the early 1900s. > > http://www-med.stanford.edu/medicalreview/smrp14-16.pdf That article isnt even worth commenting on -- Want proof? look at footnote #20 then find CURRENT information. And dont blame me for the crossposting - - I didnt add them and I aint removing them -- find the real idiots. |
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>>>>> Attention Deficit Disorder.
Attention Def.... .....what was that? |
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:25:42 -0500, Fred wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:06:29 -0000, "Steve O" > > scribbled: > >> [quoted text muted] > > Miscarriages are more common among women who smoke. This effect has > been known since the early 1900s. > > http://www-med.stanford.edu/medicalreview/smrp14-16.pdf That article isnt even worth commenting on -- Want proof? look at footnote #20 then find CURRENT information. And dont blame me for the crossposting - - I didnt add them and I aint removing them -- find the real idiots. |
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Steve O wrote:
> wrote: >> >> You don't go out much, and it's probably for the best. > > What would you know about that? > > Maybe I get out and about more than you do. > Tell me something, do you work in an office? Now this is getting really spooky - I posted this months ago. I certainly didn't repost it this time. Anyone know what's going on? |
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Steve O wrote:
> wrote: >> >> You don't go out much, and it's probably for the best. > > What would you know about that? > > Maybe I get out and about more than you do. > Tell me something, do you work in an office? Now this is getting really spooky - I posted this months ago. I certainly didn't repost it this time. Anyone know what's going on? |
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Steve O wrote:
> Steve O wrote: > wrote: >> >>>You don't go out much, and it's probably for the best. >> >>What would you know about that? >> >>Maybe I get out and about more than you do. >>Tell me something, do you work in an office? > > > Now this is getting really spooky - I posted this months ago. > I certainly didn't repost it this time. > Anyone know what's going on? <grin> |
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Steve O wrote:
> Steve O wrote: > wrote: >> >>>You don't go out much, and it's probably for the best. >> >>What would you know about that? >> >>Maybe I get out and about more than you do. >>Tell me something, do you work in an office? > > > Now this is getting really spooky - I posted this months ago. > I certainly didn't repost it this time. > Anyone know what's going on? <grin> |
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Kyoteee wrote: > > >>Alcohol in any form harms the liver (especially) and the heart > > > Kyotee, you ignorant slut, it does not. Moderate alcohol consumption is > known to science and medicine to have quantifiable health benefits. The > same cannot be said for cigarettes in ANY amount. > Stern sounds like a boozer. |
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Kyoteee wrote: > > >>Alcohol in any form harms the liver (especially) and the heart > > > Kyotee, you ignorant slut, it does not. Moderate alcohol consumption is > known to science and medicine to have quantifiable health benefits. The > same cannot be said for cigarettes in ANY amount. > Stern sounds like a boozer. |
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Bruce Watson wrote:
> In article et>, > dick > wrote: > > >>In my short life time we have heard- >>-margarine is better than butter >>-only to reverse and say butter is healthy in Margarine is unhealthy. >>-Alcohol is bad for you and now Red wine is good for you. >>-Low fat is good to low fat makes us fatter >>-Low Carb is bad but people lose weight on low carb, especially low simple >>carbs. > > > In my longer lifetime, I've heard -- > > -Smoking is unhealthy to smoking is unhealthy. You just cant get past that fear of death can you. |
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rumik wrote:
> Steve O wrote: >> Steve O wrote: >> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You don't go out much, and it's probably for the best. >>> >>> What would you know about that? >>> >>> Maybe I get out and about more than you do. >>> Tell me something, do you work in an office? >> >> >> Now this is getting really spooky - I posted this months ago. >> I certainly didn't repost it this time. >> Anyone know what's going on? > > <grin> Ohhh! You!!!! |
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rumik wrote:
> Steve O wrote: >> Steve O wrote: >> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You don't go out much, and it's probably for the best. >>> >>> What would you know about that? >>> >>> Maybe I get out and about more than you do. >>> Tell me something, do you work in an office? >> >> >> Now this is getting really spooky - I posted this months ago. >> I certainly didn't repost it this time. >> Anyone know what's going on? > > <grin> Ohhh! You!!!! |
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In article >,
"Alex W." > wrote: > "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message > n.umich.ed > u... > > On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Alex W. wrote: > > > > > > Cigarette smokers are scorned, yes. People who > knowingly, > > > > deliberately, willfully, wantonly and repeatedly > injure themselves are > > > > scorned in this society as being ****ed in the head. > > > > > The residents of alt.food.wine and > alt.drinks.scotch-whisky will be > > > interested to hear your opinion. > > > > I sort of doubt it; it's not applicable. Participants in > those groups, by > > and large, do not injure themselves with wine and whisky. > People who *do* > > are known as "alcoholics", and society scorns them, too. > > Shows how little you know. Any alcohol harms the body. One > single cold beer on a hot day harms your body. The alcohol > molecule is not easily metabolised by the body and irritates > pancreas, kidneys and liver at all concentrations. Even > mild consumption of alcohol adversely affects cognitive > functions of the brain (all activities that involve the > acquiring, storage, retrieval and use of information). > Drink two glasses of wine, and your abilities will be > signally impaired: you will show signs of intoxication. * And you will live longer. Total abstinance from wine is a risk factor for heart disease. There are dozens of recent studies that confirm this. A sample, from: http://wineserver.ucdavis.edu/cuttin...winehealth.htm "Wine has been espoused for centuries as a superior beverage. Louis Pasteur said, 'Wine is the most healthful and most hygienic of beverages,' and Plato remarked, 'No thing more excellent nor more valuable than wine was ever granted mankind by God.' Common to these endorsements is the view that wine is as good for the body as it is for the spirit. Modern scientific research supports this perception. David Goldberg at the University of Toronto has recently published an amusing and enlightening review of this subject. Fifteen years ago, in an ecological epidemiology study, Selwyn St Leger and co-workers showed that there was a population-based association between a reduction in deaths from heart disease and increased wine consumption.(2) More recently. Serge Renaud and Michel de Lorgeril at INSERM in Lyon brought the issue to public attention with a similar study 'Wine, alcohol. platelets. and the French paradox for coronary heart disease.' They used World Health Organization data to show that dairy fat consumption is highly correlated with coronary heart disease (CHD) mortality. A few French cities, however, had very high fat consumption, yet low CHD mortality rates - thus the 'French paradox'. When they added wine consumption as a factor that affected CHD mortality, the researchers got a better correlation, with wine being a negative correlate - it appeared to reduce heart disease.(3) Michael Criqui and Brenda Ringel at the University of California, San Diego, subsequently investigated comparable data and came to a similar conclusion: wine was one of the few dietary factors that correlated with reduced CHD mortality.(4) Interestingly, they also showed that fruit consumption correlated with reduced CHD mortality. There now appears to be no dispute that moderate wine consumption is associated with lower CHD mortality. A related question is whether or not total mortality rates decrease with increased wine consumption. and here there is still some argument. In an ecological study that compared entire populations, Criqui and Ringel showed that total mortality does not decrease as the population's wine alcohol consumption increases. The authors attribute this effect to a compensating increase in mortality from other causes, which offsets the (decreasing CHD mortality. However, in prospective studies which distinguish between subjects based on consumption rates, the lowest total mortality occurs with moderate alcohol consumption (1-3 drinks/day), whether from beer, wine or spirits.(5) For heavy drinkers, however, mortality is higher than non-drinkers, especially among women. Other studies agree that the lowest mortality occurs at moderate alcohol consumption levels. including the analysis of health professionals by Eric Rimm and co-workers, at Harvard School of Public Health.(6)" See the above URL for more. earle * -- __ __/\_\ /\_\/_/ \/_/\_\ earle \/_/ jones |
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Steve O wrote:
> rumik wrote: > >>Steve O wrote: >> >>>Steve O wrote: >>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>You don't go out much, and it's probably for the best. >>>> >>>>What would you know about that? >>>> >>>>Maybe I get out and about more than you do. >>>>Tell me something, do you work in an office? >>> >>> >>>Now this is getting really spooky - I posted this months ago. >>>I certainly didn't repost it this time. >>>Anyone know what's going on? >> >><grin> > > > Ohhh! > You!!!! What makes you think I had anything to do with it? Have you studied the headers of those posts? If you know how to read them, you might find it even spookier. |
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> > > Cigarette smokers are scorned, yes. People who knowingly, > > > deliberately, willfully, wantonly and repeatedly injure themselves are > > > scorned in this society as being ****ed in the head. Being a little hard on the Cub fans, aren't we ? |
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