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Vitaly P. Nisin 03-02-2004 10:35 AM

Bastardo variety
 
Who know about genesis of name "*******o"?
And is true all written about this variety in "wine grape glossary" by
Antony J. Hawkins?

Thanks a lot!



Cwdjrx _ 04-02-2004 04:55 PM

Bastardo variety
 
At one time *******o, Terrantez, and Moscatel grapes were used to make
vintage Madeira. These grapes were all but wiped out by the vine
diseases and pests that struck Madeira very hard in the last half of the
1800s. However very small amounts of Vintage Madeira have been made
from these grapes since 1900. *******o Vintage Madeira is seen the least
often of the three mentioned varieties. I have Blandy *******o Vintage
Madeira 1870, Cossart Gordon *******o Vintage Madeira 1875, and Leacock
*******o Vintage Madeira 1927. M. Broadbent has tasted two of these and
rated them highly in his books.

I am not sure how the grapes got the name *******o, but this word seems
to have about the same meaning in Portugese as in English.


Tom S 05-02-2004 04:20 AM

Bastardo variety
 

"Cwdjrx _" > wrote in message
...
> I am not sure how the grapes got the name *******o, but this word seems
> to have about the same meaning in Portugese as in English.


As well as in French - except they spell it "Batard".

Tom S



Mike Tommasi 05-02-2004 07:02 AM

Bastardo variety
 
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 04:20:23 GMT, "Tom S" >
wrote:

>
>"Cwdjrx _" > wrote in message
...
>> I am not sure how the grapes got the name *******o, but this word seems
>> to have about the same meaning in Portugese as in English.

>
>As well as in French - except they spell it "Batard".


Well, the grape variety is known in France as Trousseau.

Mike

Cwdjrx _ 05-02-2004 07:51 AM

Bastardo variety
 
Also some *******o grapes still are grown in Portugal. So far as I know,
they are not made into a single variety wine, but end up as part of the
blend in Ports and Dao. Both Lichine and Johnson mention *******o in
this connection in their wine encyclopedias. Johnson says: "*******o a
rather pale and low-acid but aromatic and well balanced grape used for
port and in Dao." *******o is a red grape.



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