The state stores where I get my wine are having a French sale this month. I
have been drinking mostly Italian Chiantis and Barolos. I've filtered the
list of French wines to those available at the store local to me and dropped
anything below $15. Which of these have any of you enjoyed in the past?
Unfortunately, they rarely list the year...

BORDEAUX
31466 Ch Carignan Brdx 750ml 16.99
24192 Ch Clairefont 750ml 19.99
15817 Ch Coufran 750ml 17.99
34244 Ch de Sales Pomerol 750ml 29.99
34253 Ch Gloria St Julien 750ml 27.99
90016 Ch Leoville Barton 00 St Jln 750ml 62.99
16001 Ch Malescot 750ml 43.99
29459 Ch Martinet St Emilion 750ml 16.99
34287 Ch Meyney St Estephe 750ml 24.99
31710 Ch Pichon Lngvle Baron 750ml 56.99
23073 Ch Puy Blanquet 750ml 16.99
22890 Ch Simard Red 750ml 21.99
28007 Ch Talbot St Julien 750ml 27.99

BURGUNDY
6162 Jadot Pouilly Fuisse 750ml 17.99
26427 Latour Pouilly Fuisse 750ml 18.99
7831 Pouilly Fuisse St Aubin 750ml 16.99

RHONE
25817 Guigal Chateauneuf du Pape 750ml 32.99
33952 L Bernard Chateauneuf du Pape Rhone 750ml 24.99
22782 La Roquette Chateauneuf du Pape Red 750ml 24.99
33298 Dom de la Renjarde Cotes du Rhone RSV 750ml 20.99
15820 Mont Redon Chateauneuf du Pape 750ml 25.99
33718 Chave St Joseph Offerus Red 750ml 24.99

"SJP" > wrote in news:Wcknb.33488$275.63065@attbi_s53:



>
>
> RHONE


> 15820 Mont Redon Chateauneuf du Pape 750ml 25.99
> 33718 Chave St Joseph Offerus Red 750ml 24.99
>

I'll let the others opine of the bordeaux, I like the St. Joseph and think
you might like it if you like Chianti's. Good fruit, 100% (IIRC) Syrah a
really nicely crafted wine. The Mont Redon would be my pick of the CdPs

The Léoville Barton 2000 is a must buy at this price ! (If you don't mind
spending money on a few bottles).
The quotes are 96 at Parker and the cheapest price I have seen here is 75
euro (still $ 90).
The rest seems 'average prices'... compared to ours.

"SJP" > wrote:

> Unfortunately, they rarely list the year...

Which makes it almost impossible to give a decent & founded
recommendation.

M.

In article <Wcknb.33488$275.63065@attbi_s53>, "SJP" > writes:

>Unfortunately, they rarely list the year...

Well, in these regions that makes a HUGE difference!

>
>BORDEAUX
>15817 Ch Coufran 750ml 17.99
>34244 Ch de Sales Pomerol 750ml 29.99
>34253 Ch Gloria St Julien 750ml 27.99
>90016 Ch Leoville Barton 00 St Jln 750ml 62.99
>31710 Ch Pichon Lngvle Baron 750ml 56.99
>28007 Ch Talbot St Julien 750ml 27.99

If any of these are 2000, I'd jump on them. Other than that, de Sales if '98. I
might go for the Talbot in '99 as an early drinker, though price isn't
spectacular

>22890 Ch Simard Red 750ml 21.99
Likely to be the '89 or '90 (late releaser). Usually competent but unexciting.
90 seems to have significant bottle variation

>
>BURGUNDY
>6162 Jadot Pouilly Fuisse 750ml 17.99
>26427 Latour Pouilly Fuisse 750ml 18.99
>7831 Pouilly Fuisse St Aubin 750ml 16.99
>
None very exciting, though all probably ok (I'm assuming the St. Aubin is from
Ch. de P-F, only thing that makes sense from this listing). I tend to prefer
Jadot to Latour.

>RHONE
>15820 Mont Redon Chateauneuf du Pape 750ml 25.99
>33718 Chave St Joseph Offerus Red 750ml 24.99
>
I'd agree with J. Coulter these are likely to be the class of the Rhones, you
can't really go wrong with '98-'00 with either. The Offerus is Chave negociant
bottling, not as good as the estate St Joseph, but usually a nice wine.




Dale

Dale Williams
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In article >, "Bart Vanholder"
> writes:

>he Léoville Barton 2000 is a must buy at this price ! (If you don't mind
>spending money on a few bottles

You're right, I didn't note that the L-Barton specified 2000- that is a very
good price! I thought price was quite high otherwise (pretty easy to find '98
or '99 L-B for $40).
Dale

Dale Williams
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Even better, then I get a 20% discount off of that listed price if I end up
with a total of 12 bottles..

Thanks for the suggestions, I'm going to make my case straight from these
replies.



"Bart Vanholder" > wrote in message
...
> The Léoville Barton 2000 is a must buy at this price ! (If you don't mind
> spending money on a few bottles).
> The quotes are 96 at Parker and the cheapest price I have seen here is 75
> euro (still $ 90).
> The rest seems 'average prices'... compared to ours.
>
>
>

SJP heeft geschreven in bericht ...
>Even better, then I get a 20% discount off of that listed price if I end up
>with a total of 12 bottles..

20% discount on LB 00 reads LB 00 at $ 51 !!! That was the price for a half
bottle here !
Incredible, this LB00 is hardly found here... sold out everywhere.

I think you owe me a bottle now ;-) knowing nobody coming to Belgium ??
Note: you have to cellar the bottle at least 5-10 years.

In article <sOwnb.51173$HS4.233806@attbi_s01>, "SJP" > writes:

>Even better, then I get a 20% discount off of that listed price if I end up
>with a total of 12 bottles

Wow, after you make your purchase, mind telling what state this is (you said
state stores, right)? If I know anyone in that state, I'll see if they pick up
a case of 2000 L-B for me!
Dale

Dale Williams
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If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I stopped by on my way
home tonight, and the 10 bottles that they have listed are already reserved
by someone who had them shipped from another store. She also claims that
they won't be getting any more...

I do my shopping at the NH State stores... Wine/Beer is usually about 33%
cheaper than in MA.


"Dale Williams" > wrote in message
...
> In article <sOwnb.51173$HS4.233806@attbi_s01>, "SJP" >
writes:
>
> >Even better, then I get a 20% discount off of that listed price if I end
up
> >with a total of 12 bottles
>
> Wow, after you make your purchase, mind telling what state this is (you
said
> state stores, right)? If I know anyone in that state, I'll see if they
pick up
> a case of 2000 L-B for me!
> Dale
>
> Dale Williams
> Drop "damnspam" to reply

Stick with Italian wines, Spanish wines, Australian wines and US wines.
Don't buy French


"SJP" > wrote in message
news:Wcknb.33488$275.63065@attbi_s53...
> The state stores where I get my wine are having a French sale this month.
I
> have been drinking mostly Italian Chiantis and Barolos. I've filtered the
> list of French wines to those available at the store local to me and
dropped
> anything below $15. Which of these have any of you enjoyed in the past?
> Unfortunately, they rarely list the year...
>
> BORDEAUX
> 31466 Ch Carignan Brdx 750ml 16.99
> 24192 Ch Clairefont 750ml 19.99
> 15817 Ch Coufran 750ml 17.99
> 34244 Ch de Sales Pomerol 750ml 29.99
> 34253 Ch Gloria St Julien 750ml 27.99
> 90016 Ch Leoville Barton 00 St Jln 750ml 62.99
> 16001 Ch Malescot 750ml 43.99
> 29459 Ch Martinet St Emilion 750ml 16.99
> 34287 Ch Meyney St Estephe 750ml 24.99
> 31710 Ch Pichon Lngvle Baron 750ml 56.99
> 23073 Ch Puy Blanquet 750ml 16.99
> 22890 Ch Simard Red 750ml 21.99
> 28007 Ch Talbot St Julien 750ml 27.99
>
> BURGUNDY
> 6162 Jadot Pouilly Fuisse 750ml 17.99
> 26427 Latour Pouilly Fuisse 750ml 18.99
> 7831 Pouilly Fuisse St Aubin 750ml 16.99
>
> RHONE
> 25817 Guigal Chateauneuf du Pape 750ml 32.99
> 33952 L Bernard Chateauneuf du Pape Rhone 750ml 24.99
> 22782 La Roquette Chateauneuf du Pape Red 750ml 24.99
> 33298 Dom de la Renjarde Cotes du Rhone RSV 750ml 20.99
> 15820 Mont Redon Chateauneuf du Pape 750ml 25.99
> 33718 Chave St Joseph Offerus Red 750ml 24.99
>
>

In article > ,
Howie The Hammer > wrote:
>
>Stick with Italian wines, Spanish wines, Australian wines and US wines.
>Don't buy French


I agree. The French make nothing but swill.


Dimitri

(D. Gerasimatos) wrote in
:

> In article > ,
> Howie The Hammer > wrote:
>>
>>Stick with Italian wines, Spanish wines, Australian wines and US
>>wines. Don't buy French
>
>
> I agree. The French make nothing but swill.
>
>
> Dimitri
>

You are kidding right, forgot the smiley?
I quote


"I can find these for about $60 (not the tete du cuvees), sometimes even
less. The 97 Niellon Chassagne is about $50. The Lafon Volnay 1er is a
little more. $40 is meant to be a median, not a cap. Maybe I should've
said $20-60 instead. The wines do not *have* to be premier crus, but I
just threw that out there as an idea of the quality range I am
expecting. No DRC or Marcassin.


Obviously the village wines of good producers can top the grand crus of
mediocre ones. You pretty much mention that below."

In article . 77>,
jcoulter > wrote:
(D. Gerasimatos) wrote in
:
>
>> In article > ,
>> Howie The Hammer > wrote:
>>>
>>>Stick with Italian wines, Spanish wines, Australian wines and US
>>>wines. Don't buy French
>>
>>
>> I agree. The French make nothing but swill.
>
>You are kidding right, forgot the smiley?


Sometimes the smiley you omit is more effective.


Dimitri