My sleuthing for the "big red" has taken me to California. Could be
one of my "magic" wines.

A 2001 Petit Sirah, Clay Station, has met most of my desires so far.
Fruity (I love black cherry, raisins and plum), thick and generous.
If the tannins subside just a notch...WOW!!!!! 5*****

Larry Stumpf,
S. Ontario,
Canada

In article >, Larry
> writes:

>My sleuthing for the "big red" has taken me to California. Could be
>one of my "magic" wines.
>
>A 2001 Petit Sirah, Clay Station, has met most of my desires so far.
>Fruity (I love black cherry, raisins and plum), thick and generous.
>If the tannins subside just a notch...WOW!!!!! 5*****

Don't know Clay Station, but PS is a good bet for big (tannic) wines. Glad you
found something you liked!
Dale

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You may want to give the Grant Burge (AUS) Barossa Shiraz a bash. Its also
black fruitish (cherry/currant) and very thick. A little spice and a little
oak to round it off. I find it great with a peppered steak or lamb
especially if you give it some time to breath - as it can be a little too
full straight off the bottle.

Unfortunately I can't seem to find this Clay Station on any of my usual UK
buying sites to give it a go.


"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> My sleuthing for the "big red" has taken me to California. Could be
> one of my "magic" wines.
>
> A 2001 Petit Sirah, Clay Station, has met most of my desires so far.
> Fruity (I love black cherry, raisins and plum), thick and generous.
> If the tannins subside just a notch...WOW!!!!! 5*****
>
> Larry Stumpf,
> S. Ontario,
> Canada

Have you tried any Amarone (della Valpolicella)? It may meet your criteria.
Valpolicella grapes (mainly Corvina) are dried out to produce very
concentrated juice. Villalta, Masi, Tomassi & Zenato are good producers I've
tried.

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> My sleuthing for the "big red" has taken me to California. Could be
> one of my "magic" wines.
>
> A 2001 Petit Sirah, Clay Station, has met most of my desires so far.
> Fruity (I love black cherry, raisins and plum), thick and generous.
> If the tannins subside just a notch...WOW!!!!! 5*****
>
> Larry Stumpf,
> S. Ontario,
> Canada

Congrats on finding one you like. This is just a start, I had just tasted a
very good Shiraz from Australia. Now I'm hooked. I've never been fond of
the California wines but I always have an opened mind. I tasted a lot of
extremely good Cali wines last week now I'm hooked. Go figure.

New York has a lot of very good wineries both Long Island and the finger
lakes. Personally, I haven't had a chance to try them yet, but since I've
been shown how good other wines are outside of my limited tastes now I'm
curious.

Not4wood

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> My sleuthing for the "big red" has taken me to California. Could be
> one of my "magic" wines.
>
> A 2001 Petit Sirah, Clay Station, has met most of my desires so far.
> Fruity (I love black cherry, raisins and plum), thick and generous.
> If the tannins subside just a notch...WOW!!!!! 5*****
>
> Larry Stumpf,
> S. Ontario,
> Canada

Hi Larry. Is this the Frey 2001 organic Petite Sirah (which is superb, in
my opinion). I haven't seen clay station, and I am also here in Ontario, so
I assume we are both shopping at LCBO.

Ian

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> My sleuthing for the "big red" has taken me to California. Could be
> one of my "magic" wines.
>
> A 2001 Petit Sirah, Clay Station, has met most of my desires so far.
> Fruity (I love black cherry, raisins and plum), thick and generous.
> If the tannins subside just a notch...WOW!!!!! 5*****
>
> Larry Stumpf,
> S. Ontario,
> Canada

>Hi Larry. Is this the Frey 2001 organic Petite Sirah (which is superb, in
>my opinion). I haven't seen clay station, and I am also here in Ontario, so
>I assume we are both shopping at LCBO.
>
>Ian
Hi Ian,

This is taken from the LCBO website. It might help you find it.

01 CLAY STATION PETITE SIRAH LODI (DELICATO)
VINTAGES 905422 750 mL bottle

Larry Stumpf,
S. Ontario,
Canada




>
>

Larry wrote:
>>Hi Larry. Is this the Frey 2001 organic Petite Sirah (which is superb, in
>>my opinion). I haven't seen clay station, and I am also here in Ontario, so
>>I assume we are both shopping at LCBO.
>>Ian
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> This is taken from the LCBO website. It might help you find it.
>
> 01 CLAY STATION PETITE SIRAH LODI (DELICATO)
> VINTAGES 905422 750 mL bottle
>
> Larry Stumpf,
> S. Ontario,
> Canada
Hi Larry,
When you mentioned "(Delicato)", I wonder if it has any relationship
to the Delicato (California) wines sold in the US. I have Delicato
Shiraz on my shopping list based on reviews I've seen (can't remember
where). I'll give the Shiraz a try for $4.99 US.

Dick

>
>
>
>
>>

>Hi Larry,
>When you mentioned "(Delicato)", I wonder if it has any relationship
>to the Delicato (California) wines sold in the US. I have Delicato
>Shiraz on my shopping list based on reviews I've seen (can't remember
>where). I'll give the Shiraz a try for $4.99 US.
>
>Dick
>

This particular wine is from California but is a Petit Sirah which is
a totally different type of grape than used for the Shiraz.(I think)

Larry Stumpf,
S. Ontario,
Canada

Larry wrote:
>>Hi Larry,
>>When you mentioned "(Delicato)", I wonder if it has any relationship
>>to the Delicato (California) wines sold in the US. I have Delicato
>>Shiraz on my shopping list based on reviews I've seen (can't remember
>>where). I'll give the Shiraz a try for $4.99 US.
>>
>>Dick
>
> This particular wine is from California but is a Petit Sirah which is
> a totally different type of grape than used for the Shiraz.(I think)
>
> Larry Stumpf,
> S. Ontario,
> Canada
Hi Larry,
I was thinking more of the brand name. I'll have to check out a bottle
at the liquor store and see if there's any mention of Clay Station
on the label.

Dick

Clay Station is a winery owned by Delicato. And Shiraz is indeed a different
grape from Petite Sirah.

Larry, I'm from Québec; can't find the Petite Sirah on the SAQ site; I'll
try to find it at Queens Quay next time I'm in TO; how much is it?

And if you have tried it, what do you think of Ca' del Sol Big House Red?


"Larry" > wrote in message
...
>
> >Hi Larry,
> >When you mentioned "(Delicato)", I wonder if it has any relationship
> >to the Delicato (California) wines sold in the US. I have Delicato
> >Shiraz on my shopping list based on reviews I've seen (can't remember
> >where). I'll give the Shiraz a try for $4.99 US.
> >
> >Dick
> >
>
> This particular wine is from California but is a Petit Sirah which is
> a totally different type of grape than used for the Shiraz.(I think)
>
> Larry Stumpf,
> S. Ontario,
> Canada

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:51:11 -0400, "luc-andré girard"
> wrote:

>Clay Station is a winery owned by Delicato. And Shiraz is indeed a different
>grape from Petite Sirah.
>
>Larry, I'm from Québec; can't find the Petite Sirah on the SAQ site; I'll
>try to find it at Queens Quay next time I'm in TO; how much is it?
>
>And if you have tried it, what do you think of Ca' del Sol Big House Red?
>
>

Hi,

You'll find the Clay Station on the site below.
I could only find three references to Ca' del Sol and the Big House
Red wasn't one of them. I've never been in a liquor store in Quebec.
Are the wines there so different? Surely many wines are the same
between the two provinces.

Larry Stumpf,
S. Ontario,
Canada

01 CLAY STATION PETITE SIRAH LODI (DELICATO)
VINTAGES 905422 750 mL bottle
http://www.lcbo.com/stores_products/...rch/index.html
>

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:51:11 -0400, "luc-andré girard"
> > wrote:
>
> >Clay Station is a winery owned by Delicato. And Shiraz is indeed a
different
> >grape from Petite Sirah.
> >
> >Larry, I'm from Québec; can't find the Petite Sirah on the SAQ site; I'll
> >try to find it at Queens Quay next time I'm in TO; how much is it?
> >
> >And if you have tried it, what do you think of Ca' del Sol Big House Red?
> >
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> You'll find the Clay Station on the site below.
> I could only find three references to Ca' del Sol and the Big House
> Red wasn't one of them. I've never been in a liquor store in Quebec.
> Are the wines there so different? Surely many wines are the same
> between the two provinces.
>
Nope, a few similarities but each province does cater to the purchasing
habits of its population, even within the province.
Prices vary from one province to another all based on profit redistribution
.... and again buying habits.
Ca del solo www.bonnydoonvineyard.com/ I think its there bottom level wine
its typical Bonny style ... out there! I love these guys.. one of my favs is
the "critique of pure Riesling"
...Chris
from Montreal

thanks for the info on that Clay Station wine, Larry, I will try it. As for
the Petite Syrah, I read that the grape is called Durif in France, but it
doesn't do well there due to the wetter climate. I tried to find the
article where I read that, but to no avail.
Ian

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
>
> >Hi Larry,
> >When you mentioned "(Delicato)", I wonder if it has any relationship
> >to the Delicato (California) wines sold in the US. I have Delicato
> >Shiraz on my shopping list based on reviews I've seen (can't remember
> >where). I'll give the Shiraz a try for $4.99 US.
> >
> >Dick
> >
>
> This particular wine is from California but is a Petit Sirah which is
> a totally different type of grape than used for the Shiraz.(I think)
>
> Larry Stumpf,
> S. Ontario,
> Canada