I emailed Chuck privately thinking he was the only member of the ng
from Ontario and asked him if he knew of any Ontario reds that might
have the "big" flavour some fo the Aussie and California Cabs and
Shirazes have. Living here, I thought I should give at least a few a
try.

I took his advice in the last part of his post.

Any others for my to check out list?
PS And yes Chuck I'd like to see your " to taste" list that you
mentioned.




Larry;

You flatter me outrageously by naming me a connoisseur..... As it
happens
I'm not a BIG fan of big reds but I certainly will drink them if
pushed
just the teeniest bit. I personally prefer PN or Gamay but, that
being said
I do have a few places I think you might find interesting.

1. Peninsula Ridge winery; I'll drink most anything they make and
have
often bought case lots of their Cabernet/Merlot blends

2. Lailey vineyards and winery; They make unfiltered Cabs and
Merlots and
their blends to blow your mind..... very highly recommended.

3. Malivoire winery; I usually don't like hybrid wines, but they have
a
Marechal Foch from a 40 year old vineyard that is to die for..... If
you
like GV wines they usually make very creditable ones...

4. 13th Street winery; They usually have some very drinkable reds
and are
worth a try anytime.

5. Lenko Estates; Danny makes some very, very good reds and is always
worth
a try. With any luck Helen (his mother) will be baking apple pies and
you'll be favoured with a large sample. Failing that, her cookies are
always available.... after you've tasted the wines of course. Hey, if
her
kitchen table is good enough for John Ralston Saul and various
ambassadors......... They are closed till February cause they're sold
out
mostly!

6. Hillebrand Estates; Their Trius reds (and whites for that matter)
are
always worth a try. Go to the upstairs tasting bar for the good
stuff.

I'll be compiling my "To Taste" list preparatory to buying this years
offerings in November and will be glad to send you a copy if you're
interested. My parameters are Niagara wines that I want/need to stock
up on
not to exceed $35/bottle. Tasting excursions by Marg (SWMBO) and I
will go
on throughout the winter...... So much wine.......:>))

P.S. There are more than a few Ontario lurkers on the NG and they
might
appreciate if this was posted. Up to you.
Regards
Chuck
So much wine; So little time!

Larry Stumpf,
S. Ontario,
Canada

In article >,
says...
> I emailed Chuck privately thinking he was the only member of the ng
> from Ontario and asked him if he knew of any Ontario reds that might
> have the "big" flavour some fo the Aussie and California Cabs and
> Shirazes have. Living here, I thought I should give at least a few a
> try.
>
> I took his advice in the last part of his post.
>
> Any others for my to check out list?
> PS And yes Chuck I'd like to see your " to taste" list that you
> mentioned.

You could check out some of the tasting notes on selected wineries at:

http://www.littlefatwino.com/winedb.html

There are also links to other wineries on some pages.
I also happen to like a decent Cab-Merlot blend put out by Eastdell
Estates for under CAN $15

Dennis

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:14:04 -0400, Larry > wrote:

>I emailed Chuck privately thinking he was the only member of the ng
>from Ontario and asked him if he knew of any Ontario reds that might
>have the "big" flavour some fo the Aussie and California Cabs and
>Shirazes have. Living here, I thought I should give at least a few a
>try.

In part the issue is more of vintage than which winery. 1998 was a
great year for Ontario reds, and 1999 wasn't to far behind. If you
can find anything of those vintages you're more likely to find "big".
Unfortunately most are gone, or hiding in cellars.

To add to your list, I'm quite fond of Marynissen's reds. They claim
to have planted the first Cabernet Sauvignon in Ontario 25 years ago.
They are quite small, but the LCBO (Vintages) did feature a
Chardonnary and a Cab/Merlot blend in August. Both were lower end
products, not Reserve. You might find some of those around. The
winery is just outside Niagara-On-The-Lake, almost immediately behind
Inniskillin.

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Here are 3 reds worth trying from Cilento wines. The winemaker Terence van
Rooyen, (from South Africa KWV fame) is a master with Ontario reds.
2000 Cabernet-Merlot, lcbo #510305 $ 11.95. An excellent everyday red, Equal
parts of CS, CF and Merlot.
1999 Cabernet Sauvignon reserve #lcbo vintages #510289 $22.95
excellent example of what can be done in Ontario with CS.
1999 Merlot Reserve, lcbo vintages #593947 $ 34.95 and worth every penny.
"2003 Ontario wine awards best Merlot"
If you can find the 1999 Cab franc reserve in Vintages, #547414,
have your store transfer a couple of bottles in. At $12.95 this is the steal
of the week. The follow-up 00 available only at the winery is still a baby.
Cellar for 2-3 years.

Dave.


"Al Rudderham" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:14:04 -0400, Larry > wrote:
>
> >I emailed Chuck privately thinking he was the only member of the ng
> >from Ontario and asked him if he knew of any Ontario reds that might
> >have the "big" flavour some fo the Aussie and California Cabs and
> >Shirazes have. Living here, I thought I should give at least a few a
> >try.
>
> In part the issue is more of vintage than which winery. 1998 was a
> great year for Ontario reds, and 1999 wasn't to far behind. If you
> can find anything of those vintages you're more likely to find "big".
> Unfortunately most are gone, or hiding in cellars.
>
> To add to your list, I'm quite fond of Marynissen's reds. They claim
> to have planted the first Cabernet Sauvignon in Ontario 25 years ago.
> They are quite small, but the LCBO (Vintages) did feature a
> Chardonnary and a Cab/Merlot blend in August. Both were lower end
> products, not Reserve. You might find some of those around. The
> winery is just outside Niagara-On-The-Lake, almost immediately behind
> Inniskillin.
>
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> (Sorry, but I'm SICK of spam...)

Around here (NY state), the Niagara sweet wines are only ones we see with any
regularity. But I enourage all of you to post your notes, I'd still be
interested.
Dale

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