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Savennieres : Clos de Papillon
As part of a Loire Food matched with Loire wine supper party next weekend,
I'm serving (among other things) Salmon with Beurre Blanc matched with Domaine Du Closel Clos de Papillon, 2004. A friend is bringing a Baumard Clos de Papillon (vintage unknown) to taste alongside. Can the panel suggest what differences we might find? The rest of the meal: I have line up to display the versatility of Chenin: Petillant Brut as Champagne lookalike Champalou Fondraux Vouvray 2002 with Butternut squash veloute Savennieres with Salmon & Beurre blanc Domaine des Forges, Chaume AC with Tarte Tatin I did consider a Pork in cream sauce for mains with another Chenin style, but thought that would be overkill, so instead have gone for a coq au vin (made with a cabernet franc!) with a Closel Anjou Villages plus a Chinon Red from Charles Joguet which my friend is bringing. Lest it appear that I diverge from the Loire theme... the coq au vin recipe is from the patron of a chambre d'hôte in the Loire valley and is by far the best I have ever cooked or tasted!! Cheese will be with residuals of the above plus a rather nice Sancerre to match the chevre. pk |
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Savennieres : Clos de Papillon
On 2009-11-16 08:53:27 -0800, "pk" > said:
> . Lest it appear that I diverge from the Loire theme... the coq au vin > recipe is from the patron of a chambre d'hôte in the Loire valley and > is by far the best I have ever cooked or tasted!! So, care to share the recipe?? |
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"Ronin" > wrote in message
... > On 2009-11-16 08:53:27 -0800, "pk" > said: > >> . Lest it appear that I diverge from the Loire theme... the coq au vin >> recipe is from the patron of a chambre d'hôte in the Loire valley and is >> by far the best I have ever cooked or tasted!! > > So, care to share the recipe?? > Will do, when I dig it out later in the week. pk |
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Savennieres : Clos de Papillon
pk wrote:
> As part of a Loire Food matched with Loire wine supper party next > weekend, I'm serving (among other things) Salmon with Beurre Blanc > matched with Domaine Du Closel Clos de Papillon, 2004. A friend is > bringing a Baumard Clos de Papillon (vintage unknown) to taste alongside. > > Can the panel suggest what differences we might find? First of all, it sounds like a great event, one at which I was present. To answer the question, most fans of Loire CB that I know prefer the Closel version to the Baumard in most years. '04 is a fine year for Savennieres, but it will all come down to what year the Baumard is. If it has some age on it and comes from a year like '96 (or even '97) it ought to be quite a different wine. In that event, it might even have an oxidative character to it that some might find offputting. Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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Savennieres : Clos de Papillon
"Ronin" > wrote in message ... > On 2009-11-16 08:53:27 -0800, "pk" > said: > >> . Lest it appear that I diverge from the Loire theme... the coq au vin >> recipe is from the patron of a chambre d'hôte in the Loire valley and is >> by far the best I have ever cooked or tasted!! > > So, care to share the recipe?? beat me to it !!! |
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Savennieres : Clos de Papillon
In my somewhat limited experience, both Domaine du Closel and Baumard make
very good Savennières. I like to think of Baumard like a more polished and refined wine, perhaps lacking a bit of that austerity that is typical in young Savennières. So, to me, Closel is a bit more on the terroir while Baumard is a bit more commercial. But it is just my opinion based on three or four of their bottles. Actually, I have both wines in my smallish cellar. Baumard is a 2001 and Closel is 2002 according to cellartracker. I am not in a hurry. And tonight, I will be putting a tasting of different chenin blanc wines from the Loire, for fun with friends. There is one Savennières 2007 from Domaine de la Royauté in the tasting, along with a Vouvray from Huet, a Montlouis from Chidaine, a Saumur from La Tour Grise and a Chinon by Lenoir... s. |
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Savennieres : Clos de Papillon
"Ronin" > wrote in message
... > On 2009-11-16 08:53:27 -0800, "pk" > said: > >> . Lest it appear that I diverge from the Loire theme... the coq au vin >> recipe is from the patron of a chambre d'hôte in the Loire valley and is >> by far the best I have ever cooked or tasted!! > > So, care to share the recipe?? > http://www.francethisway.com/coqauvinrecipe.php The real trick is converting the cooking juices to a intense glossy sauce by reduction and thickening with Beurre manie pk |
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