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TN: dead Gloria, live Talbot, and St Bart's Massacre pink
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>, DaleW > wrote: > Last night I waited for Betsy to get home from rehearsal before we > took the dog to walk to vote. While waiting I opened a bottle of > Provencal rose that some generous guests had brought over from France > Sunday. The (I think NV) Vignerons de la Cadierenne "Charles IX " (VdP > Mont Caume) is a rather peculiar wine. Big, fairly low acid,, a bit > herby but with a kind of quinine meets grass aftertaste that I really > can't wrap my head around. Generous for them to bring their local > wine, but this isn't my preferred style of rose. C+ > (I think I got name right. Isn't Charles the 9th the one who massacred > the Huguenots? Strange marketing choice, guess not much export!) > > So dinner was a hodgepodge of leftovers- steak salad, some cassoulet, > a piece of chicken, along with some broccoli/shiitake stirfry. I > decided to open a Bordeaux, and went with a recent acquisition, the > 1971 Ch. Gloria. I have sentimental reasons for liking Gloria, it was > cheap, fill was good, I've found some surprising nice drinking > midlevel '71s, and there was a good recent CT review. Well, too bad. > This wasn't dead from a fruitless point of view, there was some cassis > and black raspberry with just an edge of pruniness, but there was an > overwhelming taste of cigarette ashes. I've had wines that seemed > fruitless show some life after a few hours, but my experience is the > ashtray thing usually means "doornail." What the hell, I took a sip > later. Yep, even worse. Still, nothing ventured nothing gained. D > > Backup was a half bottle of 1996 Talbot (least I stayed in > appellation). I'm getting to the end of 12 halves (split a case with a > friend, cost us $12/bottle). I've noticed a bit of variation in the > 375s, previous one was quite young, this one was for me fully mature. > Fruit seems to have lost just a little of its freshness, but it's > still a nice midweight claret, with blackcurrant, blackberry, and > cedar. I'm sure 750s have more life, but I'll probably drink my last > half with next 2 years. B > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an > excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I > wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I > offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of > consistency.** Hope the Gloria wasn't too expensive. |
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Last night I waited for Betsy to get home from rehearsal before we
took the dog to walk to vote. While waiting I opened a bottle of Provencal rose that some generous guests had brought over from France Sunday. The (I think NV) Vignerons de la Cadierenne "Charles IX " (VdP Mont Caume) is a rather peculiar wine. Big, fairly low acid,, a bit herby but with a kind of quinine meets grass aftertaste that I really can't wrap my head around. Generous for them to bring their local wine, but this isn't my preferred style of rose. C+ (I think I got name right. Isn't Charles the 9th the one who massacred the Huguenots? Strange marketing choice, guess not much export!) So dinner was a hodgepodge of leftovers- steak salad, some cassoulet, a piece of chicken, along with some broccoli/shiitake stirfry. I decided to open a Bordeaux, and went with a recent acquisition, the 1971 Ch. Gloria. I have sentimental reasons for liking Gloria, it was cheap, fill was good, I've found some surprising nice drinking midlevel '71s, and there was a good recent CT review. Well, too bad. This wasn't dead from a fruitless point of view, there was some cassis and black raspberry with just an edge of pruniness, but there was an overwhelming taste of cigarette ashes. I've had wines that seemed fruitless show some life after a few hours, but my experience is the ashtray thing usually means "doornail." What the hell, I took a sip later. Yep, even worse. Still, nothing ventured nothing gained. D Backup was a half bottle of 1996 Talbot (least I stayed in appellation). I'm getting to the end of 12 halves (split a case with a friend, cost us $12/bottle). I've noticed a bit of variation in the 375s, previous one was quite young, this one was for me fully mature. Fruit seems to have lost just a little of its freshness, but it's still a nice midweight claret, with blackcurrant, blackberry, and cedar. I'm sure 750s have more life, but I'll probably drink my last half with next 2 years. B Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.** |
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:04:46 -0800, DaleW wrote:
> Last night I waited for Betsy to get home from rehearsal before we took > the dog to walk to vote. In Texas, we don't allow dogs to vote. But, New York is a totally different world. ;-) Godzilla |
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"Godzilla Lizard" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:04:46 -0800, DaleW wrote: > >> Last night I waited for Betsy to get home from rehearsal before we took >> the dog to walk to vote. > > In Texas, we don't allow dogs to vote. But you vote them in! {;-) Graham |
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