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Until today, I had never heard of the designation "Great Wine Capital" of
the World.

Membership had comprised eight "capitals" - any country entitled to one
only.

Christchurch, New Zealand now joins Bordeaux, Capetown, Florence, Mainz,
Mendoza, Porto, Bilbao - Rioja and San Francisco - Napa Valley.

The Christchurch/Southern New Zealand wine region includes 295 wineries,
encompassing Marlborough some 300km by road to the north as far south as
Central Otago, 400km south.

I understand that Adelaide, South Australia will be "inducted" shortly.

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"st.helier" wrote:

Until today, I had never heard of the designation "Great Wine
Capital" of the World.

Membership had comprised eight "capitals" - any country entitled
to one only.

Christchurch, New Zealand now joins Bordeaux, Capetown,
Florence, Mainz, Mendoza, Porto, Bilbao - Rioja and San
Francisco - Napa Valley.

The Christchurch/Southern New Zealand wine region includes 295
wineries, encompassing Marlborough some 300km by road to the
north as far south as Central Otago, 400km south.

I understand that Adelaide, South Australia will be "inducted"
shortly.


Interesting.

Thus said, the only capital in the world with a serious wine
industry within its limits is Vienna, Austria, with some 700
hectares of vineyards.

M.
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:00:09 +0200, Michael Pronay
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"st.helier" wrote:

Until today, I had never heard of the designation "Great Wine
Capital" of the World.

Membership had comprised eight "capitals" - any country entitled
to one only.

Christchurch, New Zealand now joins Bordeaux, Capetown,
Florence, Mainz, Mendoza, Porto, Bilbao - Rioja and San
Francisco - Napa Valley.

The Christchurch/Southern New Zealand wine region includes 295
wineries, encompassing Marlborough some 300km by road to the
north as far south as Central Otago, 400km south.

I understand that Adelaide, South Australia will be "inducted"
shortly.


Interesting.

Thus said, the only capital in the world with a serious wine
industry within its limits is Vienna, Austria, with some 700
hectares of vineyards.

M.

The Parisiennes will surely inform you that quanity alone does not
make for vinyards in a Capital. Especially when the capital of France
is being neglected. Paris, too, has its vines and wines. :-)
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"Joseph Coulter" skrev i melding
...
The Parisiennes will surely inform you that quanity alone does not
make for vinyards in a Capital. Especially when the capital of France
is being neglected. Paris, too, has its vines and wines. :-)

The difference is that the wines of Paris (Montmartre) were reported to be
lousy... However, times may have changed - quote: In the past, this wine
was considered to be rough swill possessing diuretic qualities, yet more
recently it was recognized
:-)
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"Michael Pronay" wrote....

Thus said, the only capital in the world with a serious wine
industry within its limits is Vienna, Austria, with some 700
hectares of vineyards.


"Joseph Coulter" replied...

The Parisiennes will surely inform you that quanity alone does not
make for vinyards in a Capital. Especially when the capital of France
is being neglected. Paris, too, has its vines and wines. :-)



"Great Wine Capitals" does have a web site... not updated though

http://www.greatwinecapitals.com/

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Joseph Coulter wrote:

Thus said, the only capital in the world with a serious wine
industry within its limits is Vienna, Austria, with some 700
hectares of vineyards.


The Parisiennes


Interesting: Why do you exclude their male counterparts, the
Parisiens?

will surely inform you that quanity alone does not make for
vinyards in a Capital. Especially when the capital of France is
being neglected. Paris, too, has its vines and wines. :-)


That's why I said *serious* wine industry, in the sense that the
wine is accessible to anybody, which definitely is not the case
for Montmartre produce.

M.
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On 2009-10-17 14:09:15 -0700, "Anders Tørneskog"
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"Joseph Coulter" skrev i melding
...
The Parisiennes will surely inform you that quanity alone does not
make for vinyards in a Capital. Especially when the capital of France
is being neglected. Paris, too, has its vines and wines. :-)

The difference is that the wines of Paris (Montmartre) were reported to be
lousy... However, times may have changed - quote: In the past, this wine
was considered to be rough swill possessing diuretic qualities, yet more
recently it was recognized
:-)
Anders


Besides, the vinyard is only about an acre...

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On Oct 17, 5:00*am, Michael Pronay wrote:
"st.helier" wrote:
Until today, I had never heard of the designation "Great Wine
Capital" of the World.


Membership had comprised eight "capitals" - any country entitled
to one only.


Christchurch, New Zealand now joins Bordeaux, Capetown,
Florence, Mainz, Mendoza, Porto, Bilbao - Rioja and San
Francisco - Napa Valley.


The Christchurch/Southern New Zealand wine region includes 295
wineries, encompassing Marlborough some 300km by road to the
north as far south as Central Otago, 400km south.


I understand that Adelaide, South Australia will be "inducted"
shortly.


Interesting.

Thus said, the only capital in the world with a serious wine
industry within its limits is Vienna, Austria, with some 700
hectares of vineyards.

M.


I have to say the "Great Wine Capitals" network of the world seems
like a crock of sh$t to me. OK, one can argue Bordeaux over Beaune,
Florence over Turin, etc. San Francisco is an hour+ from Napa
(Sacramento is about same distance). Is Bilbao in Rioja? Mainz is more
important than Trier? Totally meaningless list IMHO
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:09:50 +0200, Michael Pronay
wrote:

Joseph Coulter wrote:

Thus said, the only capital in the world with a serious wine
industry within its limits is Vienna, Austria, with some 700
hectares of vineyards.


The Parisiennes


Interesting: Why do you exclude their male counterparts, the
Parisiens?

M. Pronay surely you understand, I am only a man I am so predictable
in these things.(VBG
will surely inform you that quanity alone does not make for
vinyards in a Capital. Especially when the capital of France is
being neglected. Paris, too, has its vines and wines. :-)


That's why I said *serious* wine industry, in the sense that the
wine is accessible to anybody, which definitely is not the case
for Montmartre produce.

M.


Please bear in mind that I meant no disrespect to the Vienese wine
industry. I was playing with the capitals and wine aspect only.
Joseph Coulter
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On Oct 17, 5:00 am, Michael Pronay wrote:
"st.helier" wrote:
Until today, I had never heard of the designation "Great Wine
Capital" of the World.


Membership had comprised eight "capitals" - any country entitled
to one only.


Christchurch, New Zealand now joins Bordeaux, Capetown,
Florence, Mainz, Mendoza, Porto, Bilbao - Rioja and San
Francisco - Napa Valley.


The Christchurch/Southern New Zealand wine region includes 295
wineries, encompassing Marlborough some 300km by road to the
north as far south as Central Otago, 400km south.


I understand that Adelaide, South Australia will be "inducted"
shortly.


Interesting.

Thus said, the only capital in the world with a serious wine
industry within its limits is Vienna, Austria, with some 700
hectares of vineyards.

M.


I have to say the "Great Wine Capitals" network of the world seems
like a crock of sh$t to me. OK, one can argue Bordeaux over Beaune,
Florence over Turin, etc. San Francisco is an hour+ from Napa
(Sacramento is about same distance). Is Bilbao in Rioja? Mainz is more
important than Trier? Totally meaningless list IMHO


Bah humbug! Can only agree with your opinion.
There's nothing about Christchurch that speaks 'wine' to me.
The case for Wellington is much stronger IMO.
1. It is the Capital (of NZ)
2. The Wairarapa wine region (including Martinborough) is a reasonable
distance
away to make a day trip possible, and a large number of Wellingtonians
do so.
3. Actually, a large number of the vineyard owners, and wine producers
have escaped
govt and/or professional life in Wellington to make wine in the
Wairarapa.

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Joseph Coulter wrote:

Please bear in mind that I meant no disrespect to the Vienese wine
industry. I was playing with the capitals and wine aspect only.


Absolvo te.

M.
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:37:44 +1300, "greybeard"
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Bah humbug! Can only agree with your opinion.
There's nothing about Christchurch that speaks 'wine' to me.
The case for Wellington is much stronger IMO.
1. It is the Capital (of NZ)
2. The Wairarapa wine region (including Martinborough) is a reasonable
distance
away to make a day trip possible, and a large number of Wellingtonians
do so.
3. Actually, a large number of the vineyard owners, and wine producers
have escaped
govt and/or professional life in Wellington to make wine in the
Wairarapa.

cheers greybeard


Is Christchurch even close to Marlbourough? IIRCX it is a hike to the good wine country and Wellington as you said is right there.

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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:17:24 +1300, "st.helier"
wrote:

Until today, I had never heard of the designation "Great Wine Capital" of
the World.

Membership had comprised eight "capitals" - any country entitled to one
only.

Christchurch, New Zealand now joins Bordeaux, Capetown, Florence, Mainz,
Mendoza, Porto, Bilbao - Rioja and San Francisco - Napa Valley.

The Christchurch/Southern New Zealand wine region includes 295 wineries,
encompassing Marlborough some 300km by road to the north as far south as
Central Otago, 400km south.

I understand that Adelaide, South Australia will be "inducted" shortly.


Strictly marketing BS. Reminds me of Seattle's "Emerald City" (pay no
attention to that tourism board guy behind the curtain). Even worse is
a campaign they tried two years ago -- "Seattle - It's Metronatural."

OKG. Flopped like a dying carp at low tide!

Then there nearby Tacoma, a city known historically for its "aroma."
The stench from its pulp mills used to drift all over the Puget Sound
basin, and you'd always know which way the wind was blowing.

So what did they pay some PR firm to come up with?

"City of Destiny."

"Great Wine Capital?" Maybe they mean capitol, eh? "Vintage of the
Century," "Greatest Vintage of any viticultural area EVER!"

Yawn.

JJ
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"Joseph Coulter" wrote in message
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| On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:37:44 +1300, "greybeard"
| wrote:
|
|
| Bah humbug! Can only agree with your opinion.
| There's nothing about Christchurch that speaks 'wine' to me.
| The case for Wellington is much stronger IMO.
| 1. It is the Capital (of NZ)
| 2. The Wairarapa wine region (including Martinborough) is a
reasonable
| distance
| away to make a day trip possible, and a large number of
Wellingtonians
| do so.
| 3. Actually, a large number of the vineyard owners, and wine
producers
| have escaped
| govt and/or professional life in Wellington to make wine in the
| Wairarapa.
|
| cheers greybeard
|
|
| Is Christchurch even close to Marlbourough? IIRCX it is a hike to the
good wine country and Wellington as you said is right there.
| Joseph Coulter
| Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacations
| www.josephcoulter.com

Christchurch - Blenheim (principle Marlborough town) 300+ km, say 3½ - 4
hrs driving.
Travel from Wellington to Blenheim would be quicker, that is ferry
across Cook Strait and
hire car to Blenheim. Or a 20min regular scheduled flight.
There are a few vineyards to the near north of ChCh, and the Waipara
wine region about
an hours drive away.
Auckland has far better vinous claims - Waiheke Island is within the
city boundaries, and there are
nearby wine areas south, west and north of the city boundaries. Shortly
these will also
be within the city boundaries, as the several regional city authorities
are being amalgamated into
a single "super" city.
Just as an aside; the good people of ChCh would likely describe
themselves as "down to earth
beer drinkers" and Aucklanders as "Chardonnay and latte drinking
lawyers, bankers, stock
brokers and property developers." We like a bit of parochialism.

greybeard





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