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[TN] '89 Grande Dame
First of all, thanks to you all for your congratulations. The public
celebration of our 20th anniversary took place this Saturday. We threw a party for our friends from work, our neighbors and friends from childcare. At its height, there were probably 40 or so people in our home, and a gaggle of 8 children aged 2-5 upstairs with two babysitters (Andrew was having a party in parallel with our own). We served various finger foods: a 5.5 lb side of farmed Scottish salmon that I smoked, a huge batch of gambas al ajillo, some skewers of moo ping from our excellent local Thai restaurant, bread and platters of cheese, salume, antipasti and vegetables. We had various still wines on hand, as well as a case of Gruet Brut, but the centerpiece to the event was Jean's gift to me: 1989 Veuve Clicquot "La Grande Dame" (3 L) nose: lemons, lightly toasty palate: subdued mousse, creamy mouthfeel, lemony fruit, moderately toasty finish The backstory is that Jean opened a bottle of NV Veuve Clicquot in '88 to propose to me (yes, Larry, I am lucky), so she decided that it would be apropos to celebrate with a bottle of Veuve Clicquot from the year of our marriage and was able to find a double magnum for sale at Crush in NYC. We were both pleasantly surprised at how young and vibrant this wine was. Having only had La Grande Dame a few times previously, I can't say that I'm an expert on the house style, but this wine seemed less acidic but also a bit more complex than what I recalled. Very little earthy/mushroomy/oxidative character to this wine, reflecting most likely the large format. (side note: I got the cork out with some effort as the backpressure was much reduced over the standard for a young bottle) Consensus was that this was a crowd pleaser of an aged Champers, which in the end was for the best. Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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wrote: > First of all, thanks to you all for your congratulations. The public > celebration of our 20th anniversary took place this Saturday. We threw > a party for our friends from work, our neighbors and friends from > childcare. At its height, there were probably 40 or so people in our > home, and a gaggle of 8 children aged 2-5 upstairs with two babysitters > (Andrew was having a party in parallel with our own). We served various > finger foods: a 5.5 lb side of farmed Scottish salmon that I smoked, a > huge batch of gambas al ajillo, some skewers of moo ping from our > excellent local Thai restaurant, bread and platters of cheese, salume, > antipasti and vegetables. We had various still wines on hand, as well > as a case of Gruet Brut, but the centerpiece to the event was Jean's > gift to me: > > 1989 Veuve Clicquot "La Grande Dame" (3 L) > nose: lemons, lightly toasty > palate: subdued mousse, creamy mouthfeel, lemony fruit, moderately > toasty finish > > The backstory is that Jean opened a bottle of NV Veuve Clicquot in '88 > to propose to me (yes, Larry, I am lucky), so she decided that it would > be apropos to celebrate with a bottle of Veuve Clicquot from the year of > our marriage and was able to find a double magnum for sale at Crush in > NYC. We were both pleasantly surprised at how young and vibrant this > wine was. Having only had La Grande Dame a few times previously, I > can't say that I'm an expert on the house style, but this wine seemed > less acidic but also a bit more complex than what I recalled. Very > little earthy/mushroomy/oxidative character to this wine, reflecting > most likely the large format. (side note: I got the cork out with some > effort as the backpressure was much reduced over the standard for a > young bottle) Consensus was that this was a crowd pleaser of an aged > Champers, which in the end was for the best. > > Mark Lipton Again congratulations. Can't say I have ever had Grande Dame as I never wanted to pay the price. Sounds like a great party. |
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Mark Lipton > wrote in :
> 1989 Veuve Clicquot "La Grande Dame" (3 L) > nose: lemons, lightly toasty > palate: subdued mousse, creamy mouthfeel, lemony fruit, moderately > toasty finish I have a 3L of '88 Grande Dame. Any notes? It was going to be the centerpiece of my 40th birthday in '03, but we had just moved here and didn't know many people let alone enough to make opening a 3L of Champagne worthwhile. Fred. |
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[TN] '89 Grande Dame
Fred wrote:
> Mark Lipton > wrote in : > >> 1989 Veuve Clicquot "La Grande Dame" (3 L) >> nose: lemons, lightly toasty >> palate: subdued mousse, creamy mouthfeel, lemony fruit, moderately >> toasty finish > > I have a 3L of '88 Grande Dame. Any notes? It was going to be the > centerpiece of my 40th birthday in '03, but we had just moved here and > didn't know many people let alone enough to make opening a 3L of Champagne > worthwhile. No notes from me, Fred. As I said, this isn't a wine I get a lot of. However, I'd be happy to help you dispose of yours :P Both '88 and '89 were "declared" vintages in Champagne, with '89 getting slightly more hoopla, but the Cellartracker notes on the '88 sound pretty good to me. Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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On May 4, 1:31*am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> First of all, thanks to you all for your congratulations. *The public > celebration of our 20th anniversary took place this Saturday. *We threw > a party for our friends from work, our neighbors and friends from > childcare. *At its height, there were probably 40 or so people in our > home, and a gaggle of 8 children aged 2-5 upstairs with two babysitters > (Andrew was having a party in parallel with our own). *We served various > finger foods: a 5.5 lb side of farmed Scottish salmon that I smoked, a > huge batch of gambas al ajillo, some skewers of moo ping from our > excellent local Thai restaurant, bread and platters of cheese, salume, > antipasti and vegetables. *We had various still wines on hand, as well > as a case of Gruet Brut, but the centerpiece to the event was Jean's > gift to me: > > 1989 Veuve Clicquot "La Grande Dame" (3 L) > nose: lemons, lightly toasty > palate: subdued mousse, creamy mouthfeel, lemony fruit, moderately > toasty finish > > The backstory is that Jean opened a bottle of NV Veuve Clicquot in '88 > to propose to me (yes, Larry, I am lucky), so she decided that it would > be apropos to celebrate with a bottle of Veuve Clicquot from the year of > our marriage and was able to find a double magnum for sale at Crush in > NYC. *We were both pleasantly surprised at how young and vibrant this > wine was. *Having only had La Grande Dame a few times previously, I > can't say that I'm an expert on the house style, but this wine seemed > less acidic but also a bit more complex than what I recalled. Very > little earthy/mushroomy/oxidative character to this wine, reflecting > most likely the large format. *(side note: I got the cork out with some > effort as the backpressure was much reduced over the standard for a > young bottle) *Consensus was that this was a crowd pleaser of an aged > Champers, which in the end was for the best. > > Mark Lipton > > -- > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net Congratulations again, and thanks for the well done note. |
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Mark Lipton > wrote in
: > Fred wrote: >> Mark Lipton > wrote in : >> >>> 1989 Veuve Clicquot "La Grande Dame" (3 L) >>> nose: lemons, lightly toasty >>> palate: subdued mousse, creamy mouthfeel, lemony fruit, moderately >>> toasty finish >> >> I have a 3L of '88 Grande Dame. Any notes? It was going to be the >> centerpiece of my 40th birthday in '03, but we had just moved here >> and didn't know many people let alone enough to make opening a 3L of >> Champagne worthwhile. > > No notes from me, Fred. As I said, this isn't a wine I get a lot of. > However, I'd be happy to help you dispose of yours :P Both '88 and > '89 were "declared" vintages in Champagne, with '89 getting slightly > more hoopla, but the Cellartracker notes on the '88 sound pretty good > to me. If you are anywhere near Las Vegas you would be welcome when we crack that puppy. The more the merrier. It may be a while though. I have always been partial to '88s. I had a great horizontal from then that included all the first growths, Petrus, d'Yquem and others. I wanted to have it along with the lGD for my 40th, but that party never came off. I have been drinking them a bottle at a time for the last 6 years. What was 15 years old is now 21 years old. Maybe I will save what is left for my 50th. I may not be alive and/or able to drink then. Fred. |
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'89 Grande Dame
Okay, you've motivated me. I'm having a barbecue next week and in
addition to the vintage Bollinger (1990 I think) I'll open a bottle of La Grande Dame (I think also 1990). I've had both before although not recently. The Bollinger gets softer, dustier while the LGD seems not to change nearly as much with time. Of course now we're talking about almost two decades. Shaun Eli www.BrainChampagne.com |
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'89 Grande Dame
Shaun Eli wrote:
> Okay, you've motivated me. I'm having a barbecue next week and in > addition to the vintage Bollinger (1990 I think) I'll open a bottle of > La Grande Dame (I think also 1990). > > I've had both before although not recently. The Bollinger gets > softer, dustier while the LGD seems not to change nearly as much with > time. Of course now we're talking about almost two decades. Shaun, I'll be fascinated to hear what you make of both wines. I have so little experience with aged Champers, so I have no basis for comparison with the '89 LGD. Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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