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TN: moderately priced Australian Riesling
Last night Betsy made a chicken dish with lentils on top of green
salad, I chose the 2006 Mt Langi Ghiran Riesling (Victoria) despite the fact I knew tonight we were opening many Rieslings in honor of Salil's visit. Quite a nice wine, actually. Granny smith apples squirted with lime juice, vibrant acidity, just the tiniest hint of RS -drier than most halbtrocken. Nice length for an under-$20 bottle of Riesling, I wouldn't mind buying again. B+/B Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. |
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Mike Tommasi > wrote:
> What about riesling-like varieties? The only good > Welschrieslings I have ever had were Austrian and botrytized. Welschriesling is not "riesling-like", just as Tocai and Pinot Gris (formerly aka Tokay d'Alsace) are not "Tokaj-like". M. |
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"Mike Tommasi" > skrev i meddelandet ... > Michael Pronay wrote: >> Mike Tommasi > wrote: >>> What about riesling-like varieties? The only good Welschrieslings I have >>> ever had were Austrian and botrytized. >> >> Welschriesling is not "riesling-like", just as Tocai and Pinot Gris >> (formerly aka Tokay d'Alsace) are not "Tokaj-like". > > It shares 8 letters in the correct order :-))) The word "riesling" is not a grape variety ... and this is not a pipe. Cheers Nils |
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Nils wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:19:54 GMT:
> "Mike Tommasi" > skrev i meddelandet > ... >> Michael Pronay wrote: >>> Mike Tommasi > wrote: >>>> What about riesling-like varieties? The only good >>>> Welschrieslings I have ever had were Austrian and >>>> botrytized. >>> >>> Welschriesling is not "riesling-like", just as Tocai and >>> Pinot Gris (formerly aka Tokay d'Alsace) are not >>> "Tokaj-like". >> >> It shares 8 letters in the correct order :-))) > The word "riesling" is not a grape variety ... and this is not > a pipe. This may be an attempt that I am missing to do a Magritte but others would disagree with you about "riesling" not being a grape variety, for example, http://www.winepros.org/wine101/grap...s/riesling.htm -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Yeah, it said:
Riesling name has been tarnished by the attachment of its name to other white varietals (Grey Riesling--aka Chaucé Gris--, Walschriesling--aka Italian Riesling--, and Missouri Riesling) that are of far lesser quality and genetically unrelated to the true Riesling. Riesling is a grape variety, of course, the others too, in their way. Anders "James Silverton" > skrev i melding ... > Nils wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:19:54 GMT: > > >> "Mike Tommasi" > skrev i meddelandet >> ... >>> Michael Pronay wrote: >>>> Mike Tommasi > wrote: >>>>> What about riesling-like varieties? The only good >>>>> Welschrieslings I have ever had were Austrian and >>>>> botrytized. >>>> >>>> Welschriesling is not "riesling-like", just as Tocai and >>>> Pinot Gris (formerly aka Tokay d'Alsace) are not >>>> "Tokaj-like". >>> >>> It shares 8 letters in the correct order :-))) > >> The word "riesling" is not a grape variety ... and this is not >> a pipe. > > This may be an attempt that I am missing to do a Magritte but others would > disagree with you about "riesling" not being a grape variety, for example, > http://www.winepros.org/wine101/grap...s/riesling.htm > > > -- > > James Silverton > Potomac, Maryland > > Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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>> The word "riesling" is not a grape variety ... and this is not >> a pipe. > > This may be an attempt that I am missing to do a Magritte but others would > disagree with you about "riesling" not being a grape variety, for example, > http://www.winepros.org/wine101/grap...s/riesling.htm Obviously you are right - it is a Magritte - the word "riesling" is not a grape variety, while riesling is ... and the picture of a piep is not a pipe, nor is the word pipe ... seriously, Welschriesling has nothing or very little to do with riesling. The suffix Welsch- means "foreign" (cognate with Wales, and the wal- in walnut), though today very archaic. In Germany the Pinot meunier is sometimes called Schwarzriesling, BTW, to add to the confusion. HTH Cheers Nils |
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Anders Tørneskog wrote:
> Yeah, it said: > Riesling name has been tarnished by the attachment of its name to other > white varietals (Grey Riesling--aka Chaucé Gris--, Walschriesling--aka > Italian Riesling--, and Missouri Riesling) that are of far lesser quality > and genetically unrelated to the true Riesling. > > Riesling is a grape variety, of course, the others too, in their way. > Well, there is no grape that is not one variety or another! Does anyone know what the French for Walschriesling is? -E |
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> Does anyone know what the French for Walschriesling is?
I found one instance of "riesling italien" (cf riesling italico in Italian). Apart from that, only Welschriesling. I doubt there are more than very small plantings of Welschriesling in France .... Cheers Nils |
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"Nils Gustaf Lindgren" > wrote:
>> Does anyone know what the French for Walschriesling is? > I found one instance of "riesling italien" (cf riesling italico > in Italian). The one or two times I heard the grape name in France, the speakers used the Italian name. M. |
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"Nils Gustaf Lindgren" > wrote:
> Welschriesling has nothing or very little to do with riesling. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Genetically spoken: nothing, zilch, nada. M. |
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