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I've been out of pocket for the last week with rotator cuff surgery
done last Friday so we're doing a belated end of summer get together
this weekend. One of the early courses is a tomato and watermelon
salad-heirloom tomato, watermelon, red onion, english cucumber, a bit
of fresh herbs and a pinch of cayenne all in a light red wine vinegar
and olive oil dressing...just a touch of sugar. I've tried this salad
with a number of wines and haven't found a good match yet. I'm
considering a domestic Rose, perhaps a grenache based wine or a rose
sparkler. Any thoughts?
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Bi!! wrote:
> I've been out of pocket for the last week with rotator cuff surgery
> done last Friday so we're doing a belated end of summer get together
> this weekend. One of the early courses is a tomato and watermelon
> salad-heirloom tomato, watermelon, red onion, english cucumber, a bit
> of fresh herbs and a pinch of cayenne all in a light red wine vinegar
> and olive oil dressing...just a touch of sugar. I've tried this salad
> with a number of wines and haven't found a good match yet. I'm
> considering a domestic Rose, perhaps a grenache based wine or a rose
> sparkler. Any thoughts?


I'd go with the rosé sparkler, Bill, preferably a French one. IMO,
you'll need high acidity to go with the tomatoes and vinegar. I
wouldn't use e.g. Billecart-Salmon as I doubt that the match would be
better than mutual survival.

Mark Lipton

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On Sep 3, 1:52�pm, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> Bi!! wrote:
> > I've been out of pocket for the last week with rotator cuff surgery
> > done last Friday so we're doing a belated end of summer get together
> > this weekend. �One of the early courses is a tomato and watermelon
> > salad-heirloom tomato, watermelon, red onion, english cucumber, a bit
> > of fresh herbs and a pinch of cayenne all in a light red wine vinegar
> > and olive oil dressing...just a touch of sugar. �I've tried this salad
> > with a number of wines and haven't found a good match yet. �I'm
> > considering a domestic Rose, perhaps a grenache based wine or a rose
> > sparkler. �Any thoughts?

>
> I'd go with the ros� sparkler, Bill, preferably a French one. �IMO,
> you'll need high acidity to go with the tomatoes and vinegar. �I
> wouldn't use e.g. Billecart-Salmon as I doubt that the match would be
> better than mutual survival.
>
> Mark Lipton
>
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Thanks Mark....Rose sparkler was my first inclination. This time of
year I'm swimming in fresh tomato of many varieties.
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On Sep 3, 12:39 pm, "Bi!!" > wrote:
> I've been out of pocket for the last week with rotator cuff surgery
> done last Friday so we're doing a belated end of summer get together
> this weekend. One of the early courses is a tomato and watermelon
> salad-heirloom tomato, watermelon, red onion, english cucumber, a bit
> of fresh herbs and a pinch of cayenne all in a light red wine vinegar
> and olive oil dressing...just a touch of sugar. I've tried this salad
> with a number of wines and haven't found a good match yet. I'm
> considering a domestic Rose, perhaps a grenache based wine or a rose
> sparkler. Any thoughts?


Grand Cru Gewurztraminer to counter the sugar, a richer style of
Gruner Veltliner like Ott, or Alsace Grand Cru Riesling best from the
'03 or '04 vintage.
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On Sep 3, 11:39*am, "Bi!!" > wrote:
> I've been out of pocket for the last week with rotator cuff surgery
> done last Friday so we're doing a belated end of summer get together
> this weekend. *One of the early courses is a tomato and watermelon
> salad-heirloom tomato, watermelon, red onion, english cucumber, a bit
> of fresh herbs and a pinch of cayenne all in a light red wine vinegar
> and olive oil dressing...just a touch of sugar. *I've tried this salad
> with a number of wines and haven't found a good match yet. *I'm
> considering a domestic Rose, perhaps a grenache based wine or a rose
> sparkler. *Any thoughts?


I can not resist :-). A Greek Retsina should hold up to tomatos,
onions, vinegar, etc, but it might even overpower these strong tastes.
It is important to get a decent fresh Retsina, as cheap and old ones
tend to smell more like something needed to clean the toilet rather
than for drinking. Some would say that about any Retsina, even if
fresh and decent. I might select a not-too-expensive rose sparkling
wine. But I likely would drink most of it before or after eating the
salad if the match did not turn out to my taste. I hope you are
feeling better after your recent surgery.


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On Sep 4, 3:27�am, cwdjrxyz > wrote:
> On Sep 3, 11:39�am, "Bi!!" > wrote:
>
> > I've been out of pocket for the last week with rotator cuff surgery
> > done last Friday so we're doing a belated end of summer get together
> > this weekend. �One of the early courses is a tomato and watermelon
> > salad-heirloom tomato, watermelon, red onion, english cucumber, a bit
> > of fresh herbs and a pinch of cayenne all in a light red wine vinegar
> > and olive oil dressing...just a touch of sugar. �I've tried this salad
> > with a number of wines and haven't found a good match yet. �I'm
> > considering a domestic Rose, perhaps a grenache based wine or a rose
> > sparkler. �Any thoughts?

>
> I can not resist :-). A Greek Retsina should hold up to tomatos,
> onions, vinegar, etc, but it might even overpower these strong tastes.
> It is important to get a decent fresh Retsina, as cheap and old ones
> tend to smell more like something needed to clean the toilet rather
> than for drinking. Some would say that about any Retsina, even if
> fresh and decent. I might select a not-too-expensive rose sparkling
> wine. But I likely would drink most of it before or after eating the
> salad if the match did not turn out to my taste. I hope you are
> feeling better after your recent surgery.


I'm doing great but still typing one handed....I haven't drank Retsina
in years...I didn't know there was "decent fresh Retsina"! :-)
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On Sep 3, 12:39�pm, "Bi!!" > wrote:
> I've been out of pocket for the last week with rotator cuff surgery
> done last Friday so we're doing a belated end of summer get together
> this weekend. �One of the early courses is a tomato and watermelon
> salad-heirloom tomato, watermelon, red onion, english cucumber, a bit
> of fresh herbs and a pinch of cayenne all in a light red wine vinegar
> and olive oil dressing...just a touch of sugar. �I've tried this salad
> with a number of wines and haven't found a good match yet. �I'm
> considering a domestic Rose, perhaps a grenache based wine or a rose
> sparkler. �Any thoughts?


Glad the recovery is going well. I had RC surgery a few years ago, I
remember my PT with ...um....well...I remember it.

I'd agree rose sparkler is a good choice, though crisp white or still
rose might do well too. I'd also keep to the less treasured bottles.
Will be interested in what you choose and how it works as I saw Betsy
had recently printed a similar recipe.
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On Sep 4, 9:57�am, DaleW > wrote:
> On Sep 3, 12:39 pm, "Bi!!" > wrote:
>
> > I've been out of pocket for the last week with rotator cuff surgery
> > done last Friday so we're doing a belated end of summer get together
> > this weekend. One of the early courses is a tomato and watermelon
> > salad-heirloom tomato, watermelon, red onion, english cucumber, a bit
> > of fresh herbs and a pinch of cayenne all in a light red wine vinegar
> > and olive oil dressing...just a touch of sugar. I've tried this salad
> > with a number of wines and haven't found a good match yet. I'm
> > considering a domestic Rose, perhaps a grenache based wine or a rose
> > sparkler. Any thoughts?

>
> Glad the recovery is going well. I had RC surgery a few years ago, I
> remember my PT with ...um....well...I remember it.
>
> I'd agree rose sparkler is a good choice, though crisp white or still
> rose might do well too. I'd also keep to the less treasured bottles.
> Will be interested in what you choose and how it works as I saw Betsy
> had recently printed a similar recipe.


I have a couple of domestic roses that I'm considering like the "A to
Z" Oregon Rose. It's made for Sangiovese and is fruity yet crisp with
a nice juiciness and just the faintest hint of sweetness. At about
$13 a bottle it's a good buy and I have a couple of bottles of the
latest release in my fridge. The amoount of sugar in the receipe is
really quitte small an is more of a flavor enhancer than an actual
component of the dish.
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