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German Wines and Cambodian Food
These are notes of a tasting of German Rieslings mated (quite well, I
would add) with Cambodian food – not too spicy but very tasty. We (well most of us) drink these wines so seldom, it was a real treat to sit down with some other aficionados and get stuck into them. Sticklers for correct German spelling should take pity and make allowance for poor lighting and sticky fingers. 2004 St. Urbans-hof Piesporter Goldtropfchen (MSR) – light floral nose, crisp and clean with a grapefruity thing happening. 1993 Forstmeister Geltz Zilliken Saarburger Rausch Spatlese – darker wine with a more pronounced petrol in the nose, a bit less lively on palate due to lower acidity than I’d have liked, but definitely richer. 1996 Gunderlach Nackenheim Rothenberg Auslese – darker straw colour, with a very unusual nose of apricots and ash tray – really, it was a smoke thing, but it wasn’t a bad thing. The wine was balanced and had good length, showing the obvious late harvest qualities. 1994 Berres Zeltinger Deutschherrenberg Auslese – this one, on the other hand, showed a lighter colour, not much in the nose or on palate, and was fairly well balanced but thin. 2005 Dr. Tanisch Braunberger Juffer Sonnenuhr Spatlese – fresh nose with some light petrol scents, quite rich and fairly sweet but balanced. The over all impression was a pleasant wine that was very fresh. 1998 Selbach-Oster Zeltinger Schlossberg Spatlese – decent nose, lighter style, smooth and well integrated but I doubt it will be a long ager. 1999 Dr. Tanisch Braunberger Juffer Sonnenuhr Auslese – same vineyard as the Spatlese and a bit controversial as it sported a highly scented petrol nose which some though also had TCA in it. I didn’t think that and as it abated with air I still don’t. Fairly rich and unctuous but with good offsetting acidity. This one has a future. 1992 Sichel Kirchheimer Kreuz Beerenauslese – not normally a long lived vintage, but the RS on this carried it very well. Amber colour, rich oily nose, with obvious botrytis, quite sweet in the mouth but balanced, and a long concentrated finish. Made me glad I’d bought this one. 1998 Prinz von Hessen Winkeler Hasensprung Eiswein – a rare one, especially in full bottle and a wonderful step up from the BA. True amber colour even at this fairly young age, with ripe pear and honey in the nose, with hints of spice (we argued about mace or nutmeg), and pear and raisin in the mouth. Super concentration, probably with an RS between a BA and a TBA. I hope one of the other guys posts pics of the food. The crab was delicious! Great event. |
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"Bill S." > wrote in message ... These are notes of a tasting of German Rieslings mated (quite well, I would add) with Cambodian food – not too spicy but very tasty. We (well most of us) drink these wines so seldom, it was a real treat to sit down with some other aficionados and get stuck into them. Sticklers for correct German spelling should take pity and make allowance for poor lighting and sticky fingers. Bill after my Riesling tasting last week, it was interesting to see your notes. I note more classic petrol noses amongst the wines unlike mine which were absent or reticent. I thought the wines would have been hard work, even with the food. The last four would have been quite " heavy???" JT |
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German Wines and Cambodian Food
Only the last 2 were 'weighty' John. The Auslesen worked pretty well
with the food, and then we tasted (well OK, drank) the last two on their own as it should be. |
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On Aug 21, 9:23*am, "Bill S." > wrote:
> Only the last 2 were 'weighty' John. The Auslesen worked pretty well > with the food, and then we tasted (well OK, drank) the last two on > their own as it should be. I have never had Cambodian food, so I have no idea what would be a good match with various dishes. However it is difficult to predict what an untasted German Riesling might match. If the wine is a trocken or halb-trocken, it likely will not clash with most food for which you usually like a dry or slightly off-dry white. If the wine is a "normal" one it is sometimes difficult to guess just what you have. My experience is that Saar or other cold region wines often can match food at one ripeness level higher than wines from warm regions. For instance a spatlese, and sometimes even an auslese, from the Saar often has plenty of acid and is not too heavy for many foods. Also some make their wine with much less residual sweetness than others. The ripeness classification is based on the sugar content of the grapes before fermentation. Thus a spatlese, and even sometimes an auslese, can be rather low in residual sugar. However, due to the great ripeness, an auslese fermented rather dry could have a rather strong taste and much alcohol, so getting a balanced near-dry auslese is quite a trick. Then there is the year to consider. In an extremely ripe year, such as 1976, even a spatlese may have much honey-like character and great concentration. Also, in 1976, there were so few quality wines lower than spatlese or auslese, that many sold their slightly less ripe spatlesen and auslesen at one grade lower, which was legal, so they would have some wine in the lower grades to sell. |
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