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Pesquera and Bocci
Another dinner in the garden, this time to taste some wines from the
Ribera del Duero. But first, after tapas and Manzanilla, we had an asparagus tortilla and: 2005 Davila Albarino – clean stony lemony nose, crisp on palate and very dry. Probably a better representation of Albarino than the next wine. 2006 Terras Gauda Albarino – slightly more colour, and significantly more nose, almost intense floral with good fruit, clean and with good length Then three tarts – tomato, a kidney and snails, with: 1996 Alion – slightly warm toasty nose, quite a bit of tannin, and almost jammy fruit. This needs more time. 1996 Pascuas Vina Pedrosa – a more traditional presentation, with mature toasty nose – lots of vanilla, some remaining tannin, but smooth and long. We felt this drank better now but that the Alion would probably surpass it with time. With clams and pork, and then meatballs with saffron, and finally with cheese: Pesquera: 1991 (magnum) – this was a reserve bottling and the story was that they didn’t bottle Janus in magnum but that they finished the Janus singles and then from the same tanks did these mags. No idea if that is true or not. All the other wines were the crianza. Dark with a lifted nose with a hint of VA, but also dark fruit and vanilla, toasty presentation, medium body, quite good length, mature. The owner was a little disappointed but I thought it a very nice wine. 1994 – this was the favourite of several people. Similar lifted slightly VA nose and lots of resolved tannin, good length. Nose became oakier with air, but also showed more dark fruit. 1995 – big vanilla nose on this one, and it was drinking quite well, without a lot of tannin and with good length. Probably more forward than the 94. 1997 – bigger, sweeter vanilla in this nose, and a nice sweetness, but I thought it a tad dilute on palate. 1998 – sadly a little corked, though that pretty much became undetectable after the first while (definite wet cardboard though so it wasn’t just musty). Same signature vanilla nose, full bodied and it would be worth giving this one another shot with a perfect bottle. These courses were punctuated by games of Bocci/Petanque (whichever you like depending on what country’s wine you are drinking, I suppose. The irony of drinking Spanish wine while playing a similar game to that enjoyed by Francis Drake before putting paid to the Armada was not lost on us) in the garden. The garden has a gentle slope throughout and though we picked the flattest area, it was still a pretty challenging situation, with much searching for errant balls that had gone to ground under border plants. It was interesting to observe that the level of confidence went up in inverse proportion to the level of demonstrated skill as more wine was taken on board. Yours truly and his partner were victorious in all three games, by a good margin. We waxed them 9-1 the first game (we figured that playing to 13 might take us into the dark, so played a ‘short’ game), then 9-2, then somehow they rallied and got 7 points in the third game before we surged ahead to victory. We will no doubt take our boules in hand again (that doesn’t sound quite polite, does it?) and summarily dispatch the scurvy dogs at the next meeting, no doubt over different wines. |
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Nice notes, Bill. Thanks. But isn't bocci distinct from petanque
through the use of wooden rather than metal boules? Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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On Jul 14, 11:36*am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> Nice notes, Bill. *Thanks. *But isn't bocci distinct from petanque > through the use of wooden rather than metal boules? > > Mark Lipton > -- > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net Don't think I'd want metal boules if it were cold outside..... Yes, there are differences. petanque does use 3 metal boules while bocce uses 4 heavy (metal core, I believe) plastic coated balls like miniature bowling balls. Otherwise very similar rules. Either way a great game to play while drinking wine. English bowls or lawn bowling is much different from those 'twins' |
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"Bill S." wrote .....
> Otherwise very similar rules. Either way a great > game to play while drinking wine. Particularly if employing two local rules (1) Players MUST have glass in hand at all times whilst playing (2) Automatic loss of game if player either (a) throws while glass is empty, or (b) spills wine whilst playing Many, many enjoyable games played during long summer evenings. st.helier |
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On Jul 15, 1:46�am, "st.helier" > wrote:
> "Bill S." wrote ..... > > > Otherwise very similar rules. Either way a great > > game to play while drinking wine. > > Particularly if employing two local rules > > (1) � �Players MUST have glass in hand at all times whilst playing > (2) � �Automatic loss of game if player either (a) throws while glass is > empty, or > � � � � �(b) spills wine whilst playing > > Many, many enjoyable games played during long summer evenings. > > st.helier One of my favorite summer joys is bocce. My wife bought me glasses to use specifically for drinking while playing bocce. Basically the glasses are mason jars with a handle attatched. |
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st.helier wrote:
> "Bill S." wrote ..... > >> Otherwise very similar rules. Either way a great >> game to play while drinking wine. > > Particularly if employing two local rules > > (1) Players MUST have glass in hand at all times whilst playing > (2) Automatic loss of game if player either (a) throws while glass is > empty, or > (b) spills wine whilst playing From my misadventures playing petanque with the locals in the South of France, another rule is to always have a Gauloise dangling from the lower lip. FWIW, I'm much more attuned to your two rules ;-) Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net |
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:46:45 +1200, "st.helier"
> wrote: >"Bill S." wrote ..... > >> Otherwise very similar rules. Either way a great >> game to play while drinking wine. > >Particularly if employing two local rules > >(1) Players MUST have glass in hand at all times whilst playing >(2) Automatic loss of game if player either (a) throws while glass is >empty, or > (b) spills wine whilst playing > >Many, many enjoyable games played during long summer evenings. > >st.helier > > Such a sociable means to consume wine. A few years ago we established (by name only) the Fairy Garden Bocce Club. As autumn ends and spring rolls in, my lawn is taken over by those red and white speckled toadstools, (and a few other varities), you see in fairy tale books. The club has no other mandate apart from 4 meetings per year. I am lucky enough to have a long wide stretch of lawn that is as flat as a bowling green (considering I am in the Hills outside of Melbourne that IS a rarity), where the 4 families involved must partake in a Sangria/punch stlyle concoction before a ball is thrown, then continually consume white wines or beers over the duration of the day. Is it any surprise the best "quality" games are played well before we get to the "Final" A barbecue will follow in the evening, and the reds appear for our evening sipping. These have been some of the best days of my life without leaving the house!! DISCLAIMER: None of the "members" would dare suggest we are any good at the game, and we do tend to follow a hybrid set of rules. Hooroo.... |
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:50:31 +1000, Matt S
> wrote: >On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:46:45 +1200, "st.helier" > wrote: > >>"Bill S." wrote ..... >> >>> Otherwise very similar rules. Either way a great >>> game to play while drinking wine. >> >>Particularly if employing two local rules >> >>(1) Players MUST have glass in hand at all times whilst playing >>(2) Automatic loss of game if player either (a) throws while glass is >>empty, or >> (b) spills wine whilst playing >> >>Many, many enjoyable games played during long summer evenings. >> >>st.helier >> >> >Such a sociable means to consume wine. A few years ago we established >(by name only) the Fairy Garden Bocce Club. As autumn ends and spring >rolls in, I know we do things different Down Under, but that obviously should have been Winter ends...:>) hooroo... |
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"Matt S" wrote .......
> >>Such a sociable means to consume wine. A few years ago we established >>(by name only) the Fairy Garden Bocce Club. As autumn ends and spring >>rolls in, > > I know we do things different Down Under, but that obviously should > have been Winter ends...:>) > Hey Swoop Had any snow up that hill yet this winter? Cheers St.H |
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:18:16 +1200, "st.helier"
> wrote: >"Matt S" wrote ....... >> >>>Such a sociable means to consume wine. A few years ago we established >>>(by name only) the Fairy Garden Bocce Club. As autumn ends and spring >>>rolls in, >> >> I know we do things different Down Under, but that obviously should >> have been Winter ends...:>) >> > > >Hey Swoop > >Had any snow up that hill yet this winter? > >Cheers > >St.H > G'day M'lord, Unbelievably, a week or so ago, some of the Melbourne 'burbs (where the flatlanders live)experienced snow, and we had a gorgeous (still chiily) blue sky day. It encouraged me to scrape down all the freezers in the store, and transfer the buckets to the driveway and pour them along the side. I was amazed at the gullibility of so many folks asking "Did it snow today", to which my answer was.."Yes, just a very localised dump". hooroo... |
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:07:17 -0230, Young Martle >
wrote: >On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:50:31 +1000, Matt S > wrote: > >>white speckled >>toadstools, (and a few other varities), you see in fairy tale books. > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria > >You should have a nibble before the games begin. :-) Shaman Swooper, ...yeah, it has a ring to it..:>) hooroo... |
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