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TN: SOBER with mostly French, but a few US and Italian, wines
Last night Cathleen hosted our SOBER group, and put together a truly
lovely night of food and wine. She and Steve were gracious and generous hosts, and my only regret of the evening was I was drinking, so had to do a bit of spitting. The early arrivals sampled a couple of non-blind whites with nuts, soppressata, and cheeses: 1990 Pierre Morey "Perrieres" Meursault 1er A little tight at first, opens quickly, a bit fat, not especially focused, some nutty notes. Tired though not dead. B- 1996 Zind-Humbrecht "Clos Windsbuhl" Pinot Gris Fair amount of sweetness, but not flabby as I find some ZHs. Good richness, complex blend of floral, fruit (oranges, peaches), honey, and even a little mineral. It IS a bit much, and I think I'd struggle with it over dinner table, but nice as an apertif (and with a very ripe Munster). B+ After that the wines were double blind. Flight One Served with a lovely scallop dish in a cream sauce with leeks and ginger Wine #1: Bright fresh nose, not very yeasty, citrus based, young. Wine #2 Initially the biggest nose, a whallop of caramel and brioche. A bit odd on the palate. Wine #3 Lovely, easily my favorite of flight. Young and vibrant, yet with notes of maturity. Yeast biscuits, lemon zest, lively on palate. Wine #4 Quince and lemon, fading mousse, very mature. Others like more than I do. I don't drink enough Champagne to have guesses. All turn out to be Blanc de Blancs. #1 1998 Deutz Blanc de Blancs B #2 1988 Deutz Blanc de Blancs B- #3 1989 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne A/A- #4 1975 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne B Very interesting and informative flight Flight Two With salmon with a red wine/shallot sauce and potato gallete Wine #1 Slightly spicy nose, raspberry and cherries, good length, but maybe just a tad thin in middle. Nice mature Burg. Wine #2 A note of iron on nose, both red and black fruit, some earth. My favorite of flight. Wine #3 Meaty, good acids, maybe a tad short on finish, but I liked. We were mostly in Burgundy, though there was some discussion re Northern Rhones. John felt a couple might be Jadots, thinking he saw some indications of high temperature fermentations. #1 1985 Jacques Prieur Musigny B/B- #2 1979 Jadot Musigny B+ #3 1988 Mongeard-Mugneret Echezeaux Vieilles Vignes B Flight Three Wine #1 Savage bretty nose, some red fruit and a little coffee underneath. Hard to get past the brett, though. Wine #2 Iron/blood, slightly fading fruit, a little weedy. Wine #3 Ripe cassis and black plum fruit, mint and eucalyptus notes. A little smoke and tobacco. Tannins seem to have integrated. Very nice Guesses were centered on CalCab. #1 1990 Olga Raffault "Les Picasses" Chinon B- #2 1985 Robert Mondavi Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve B- #3 1974 Robert Mondavi Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve A- I had a bottle of the Raffault last winter that older showed a hint of brett, this was much more intense; on the other hand I liked this '74 Mondavi better than a bottle a year or two ago. Flight Four With a kind of veal stroganoff with some veggies on side Wine #1 Wow, maybe my favorite of the night. Powerful yet elegant. Blackcurrant, berries, cedar and leather. Wine #2 A little leafy, not quite as powerful as #1, but good dark plum fruit with some earth and tobacco. Guesses were all Bordeaux, but mostly Left Bank, #1 1989 Ch. Trotanoy (Pomerol) A/A- #2 1989 Ch. Petit Village (Pomerol) B+ Flight Five Wine #1 Herbs, sweet red fruit, a little coffee and black pepper. Good length, mature but not fading Wine #2 Spices, rose petals, sweet red fruit. Very good. OK, I admit I found these quite similar. Embarrassing. #1 1980 Guigal "La Landonne" Cote-Rotie A- #2 1985 G. Conterno "Cascina Francia" Barolo B+ Really great night, this group keeps raising the bar, I'm beginning to worry re my next time hosting! Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. * |
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On Jun 3, 8:50�am, DaleW > wrote:
One should proof BEFORE posting I meant: "my only regret of the evening was that I was DRIVING" > generous hosts, and my only regret of the evening was I was drinking, > so had to do a bit of spitting. and "that ONLY showed" > I had a bottle of the Raffault last winter that older showed a hint of > brett, this was much more intense; on the other hand I liked this '74 > Mondavi better than a bottle a year or two ago. |
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DaleW wrote:
> Wine #2 > A note of iron on nose, both red and black fruit, some earth. My > favorite of flight. > #2 1979 Jadot Musigny B+ Thanks for the notes, Dale. What a great lineup of wines. Just from your written description, I would have guessed Musigny. > #1 1980 Guigal "La Landonne" Cote-Rotie A- Have you ever liked a LaLa this much before? I wonder if the "off vintage" nature of '80 made this a better wine for your tastes. Mark Lipton -- alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com |
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On Jun 3, 1:22�pm, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> DaleW wrote: > > Wine #2 > > A note of iron on nose, both red and black fruit, some earth. My > > favorite of flight. > > #2 �1979 Jadot Musigny B+ > > Thanks for the notes, Dale. �What a great lineup of wines. �Just from > your written description, I would have guessed Musigny. Well, I can't that I guessed it! I was pretty sure Burgundy, but only specific guess was I thought the Echezeaux was maybe a Gevrey 1er or GC because of the meatiness Of course, my Musigny experience is very limited! > > #1 1980 Guigal "La Landonne" Cote-Rotie A- > > Have you ever liked a LaLa this much before? �I wonder if the "off > vintage" nature of '80 made this a better wine for your tastes. > Well, I liked a '83 (not sure which) a lot. But my La La experience is basically nill. |
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