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Scott[_11_] 02-07-2007 02:25 PM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?

James Silverton[_2_] 02-07-2007 03:40 PM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
Scott wrote on Mon, 02 Jul 2007 08:25:06 -0500:

S> Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico
S> in which I really enjoy. While I was drinking I was
S> wondering why is the Sangiovese grape only grown in Italy
S> (as far as I know) and not in the new world?

I don't think it is one of the most popular grapes but I have
seen Sangiovese wine from several California vintners.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Ken Blake 02-07-2007 04:39 PM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 08:25:06 -0500, Scott > wrote:

> Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
> really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
> grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?



No, that isn't correct. It's also grown in California, Chile, and
Argentina (and maybe other places too). It's bottled by itself in
California and also in blends. One well-known California blend is the
Ferrari-Carano Siena, which blends Sangiovese with Cabernet Sauvignon
and Malbec (although the exact blend probably differs from vintage to
vintage).

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Jim Mehl 02-07-2007 04:41 PM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
"Scott" > wrote in message
...
> Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
> really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
> grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?


I don't know about the rest of the "new world", but it is definitely grown
in California. Try Venge Vineyards, Silverado Vineyards, Montevina,
and La Famiglia di Robert Mondavi. My friends at Chateau Garage
and I even made some ourselves a couple of years ago.

Jim



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Tim Harris 02-07-2007 05:23 PM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
On Jul 2, 9:25 am, Scott > wrote:
> Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
> really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
> grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?


I have had a couple of great Sangiovese's from Silverado (stags leap
district Napa valley). The better of the two bottlings was called
"Fantasia".


Paul E. Lehmann 02-07-2007 05:34 PM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
Scott wrote:

> Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi
> Chianti Classico in which I really enjoy. While
> I was drinking I was wondering why is the
> Sangiovese grape only grown in Italy (as far as
> I know) and not in the new world?


Besides California, it is also grown in North
Carolina - of all places, and I believe at a few
vineyards in Virginia. If I had more room in my
back yard vineyard, I would also grow some here
in Central Maryland.

Lawrence Leichtman[_1_] 02-07-2007 06:11 PM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
In article >,
Scott > wrote:

> Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
> really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
> grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?


It is widely grown in California and now even Texas and New Mexico so
I'm not sure what you are talking about.

Darby 03-07-2007 01:45 AM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
On my vinodiversity database I have 180 or so wineries in Australia
are making wine from Sangiovese. To put this into perspective there
are about 2,500 wineries in Oz. It has only been used in any great
quantities here since the 1990's. Coriole in the McLaren vale region
and Pizzini in the King Valley are notable pioneers, but the
competition is getting better every year.

One problem with the variety is that there are many clones, some of
the less desirable ones have been propagated widely, but better
selection of plants as well as improvements in vineyard and winery
practices has seen a marked rise in wine quality. It will only get
better as technology and experience combine to improve the (already
high) standards of Aussie Sangiovese.


On Jul 2, 11:25 pm, Scott > wrote:
> Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
> really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
> grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?




AyTee 03-07-2007 02:45 AM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
On Jul 2, 6:25 am, Scott > wrote:
> Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
> really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
> grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?


I've had several very nice Sangiovese wines from Washington wineries,
including a couple of rosés.

Andy


st.helier[_1_] 03-07-2007 07:32 AM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
"Ken Blake" wrote ..............>
>
> It's also grown in California, Chile, and Argentina ...


And Australia - and New Zealand ....

st.h



UC[_1_] 03-07-2007 08:42 PM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
On Jul 2, 9:25 am, Scott > wrote:
> Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
> really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
> grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?




It's a matter of climate. I'm sure Sangiovese is grown elsewhere, but
it won't tatse like Chianti elsewhere.


The Subject® 03-07-2007 09:20 PM

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> On Jul 2, 9:25 am, Scott > wrote:
>> Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
>> really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
>> grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?

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> it won't tatse like Chianti elsewhere.


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UC[_1_] 03-07-2007 09:45 PM

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On Jul 3, 4:20 pm, "The Subject®" > wrote:
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> Trust me it's more marketing than climate. As well as protection of the
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> "UC" > wrote in message
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It won't taste like Chinati elsewhere, and I don't care much for
Chianti anyway.


miles 04-07-2007 03:00 AM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
UC wrote:

> It's a matter of climate. I'm sure Sangiovese is grown elsewhere, but
> it won't tatse like Chianti elsewhere.


Two reasons. Chianti is a blend. Sangiovese is a varietal. Numerous
California Sangioveses are 100% so I agree, they are not Chianti.
Second, I dont want Sangiovese to taste like Chianti! That would ruin it!


UC[_1_] 05-07-2007 01:56 PM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
On Jul 3, 10:00 pm, miles > wrote:
> UC wrote:
> > It's a matter of climate. I'm sure Sangiovese is grown elsewhere, but
> > it won't tatse like Chianti elsewhere.

>
> Two reasons. Chianti is a blend. Sangiovese is a varietal. Numerous
> California Sangioveses are 100% so I agree, they are not Chianti.
> Second, I dont want Sangiovese to taste like Chianti! That would ruin it!




Yes, I agree! Most Chianti is shit.


Hunt 06-07-2007 07:34 PM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
In article >,
says...
>
>Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
>really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
>grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?


You should try some of the Sangiovese and blends from the Amador/Sierra
Foothills region of CA. They are different than most from IT, but good, none
the less.

For the longest time, I thought that Shafer's Firebreak (Sangiovese/Cab blend)
was the only good domestic iteration of this grape. It's still good, but
Amador/Sierra has some really promising producers and vineyards.

Hunt


miles 07-07-2007 12:44 AM

Sangiovese grape in the new world?
 
UC wrote:

> Yes, I agree! Most Chianti is shit.


There are some very nice California Sangiovese's though. Cambria and
Midnight Cellars are both excellent but neither distribute outside their
region except by mail.


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