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Easter Sunday Betsy played the matinee, I went to her sister's for a
big party (she joined at end). Lots of old friends there, kids having
a ball with Easter egg hunt even though it was unseasonably cold, good
food, ping pong. There were a variety of wines, some the host had put
out and some that people had brought. Not every wine got opened- I
felt it bad manners to open without host's invite when there were
several open bottles on table. For me that was a mixed disappointment
(1998 La Fleur du Bouard) and relief (a wine from NJ called
Almondique: "American white table flavored with almonds, caramel
coloring added"). OK, I admit I had a morbid curiosity re the latter.
I didn't try every wine that WAS opened, but I did try:

2001 Schmitt Niersteiner Hipping Riesling Spätlese (Rheinhessen)
Showing rounder than most 2001s, apple and plum fruit dominate with
only a faint mineral note. Pleasant enough. B/B-

2002 Cora Muscat (Penedes)
I'll admit I'm not generally a fan of dry Muscat, although there have
been a few (Austrian and Alsace) that I've enjoyed. This is a reminder
that I'm not generally a fan. Floral nose that reminds me a bit of
cheap perfume, grapey on the palate. A little hint of "oak-chippy"
vanilla. Low acid, low interest. C/C+

2005 Bailly "Les Loges" Pouilly-Fume
Citrus fruit with little notes of catpee/gooseberry, a bit of grass.
Good acidity, good ripeness, nice if not exciting. B

2003 Ercavio Tempranillo Roble (Tierra de Castlla)
Big jammy fruit, very ripe dark berries with a smooth creamy texture.
Not much oak evident, this is all about the fruit. I'd probably have
guessed a blend of typically Rhone grapes blind, reminds me of a
Tardieu-Laurent Rhone though not as oaky. Not my favorite style, but
well-done and very popular. B

2004 Campo Viejo Crianza
Fairly light bodied, all red berries (especially raspberry). Clean, OK
sipper, though very short on finish. B-

2002 Marchal "Cuvee Gravel" Bourgogne
Lovely cherry and raspberry fruit with a sense of purity, fruit
sweetness beautifully balanced by firms acids. Very light tannins
remaining. nice finish. This bottle was drained fast, but got one more
pour from bottom that I nursed, more earthy/mushroom than on opening.
Very very nice for level. B+/A-

1996 Ch. Le Crock (St Estephe)
I almost skipped this, having had a few times and found hard and
charmless. But this was a pleasant surprise- fruit much more appealing
than in past. Black and red currants, an overlay of cigarbox and
leather. Not enough density or length to be a great Bordeaux, but as
the tannins have integrated a much nicer wine than before. B+

Since Betsy was unsure how much food would be left when she got to
party, and also felt that Easter needs ham (her sister's family are
pesce-vegetarians, and the potluck bringers all knew that), I had put
a ham in the oven with timer start. After party we came home, chilled
out for a while, then I made potato salad and some broccoli. The ham
wine was the 2005 Muri-Gries Lagrein Rosato (Alto Adige). I was a
little hesitant buying this, having found some Muri-Gries wines a bit
more international than my tastes. But this was a pleasant surprise,
big bright strawberry fruit, a bit more gravitas than I expect in a
rose. Good acidity, good length. Worked well with the ham; though this
is maybe a little fuller than what I look for in a summer-by-the-river
sipper, I'll probably get some more. Good qpr at under $10. B/B+

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.


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On Apr 9, 9:24�am, "DaleW" wrote:
Easter Sunday Betsy played the matinee, I went to her sister's for a
big party (she joined at end). Lots of old friends there, *kids having
a ball with Easter egg hunt even though it was unseasonably cold, good
food, ping pong. There were a variety of wines, some the host had put
out and some that people had brought. Not every wine got opened- I
felt it bad manners to open without host's invite when there were
several open bottles on table. For me that was a mixed disappointment
(1998 La Fleur du Bouard) and relief (a wine from NJ called
Almondique: "American white table flavored with almonds, caramel
coloring added"). OK, I admit I had a morbid curiosity re the latter.
I didn't try every wine that WAS opened, but I did try:

2001 Schmitt *Niersteiner Hipping Riesling Spätlese (Rheinhessen)
Showing rounder than most 2001s, apple and plum fruit dominate with
only a faint mineral note. Pleasant enough. B/B-

2002 Cora Muscat (Penedes)
I'll admit I'm not generally a fan of dry Muscat, although there have
been a few (Austrian and Alsace) that I've enjoyed. This is a reminder
that I'm not generally a fan. Floral nose that reminds me a bit of
cheap perfume, grapey on the palate. A little hint of "oak-chippy"
vanilla. Low acid, low interest. C/C+

2005 Bailly "Les Loges" Pouilly-Fume
Citrus fruit with little notes of catpee/gooseberry, a bit of grass.
Good acidity, good ripeness, nice if not exciting. B

2003 Ercavio Tempranillo Roble (Tierra de Castlla)
Big *jammy fruit, very ripe dark berries with a smooth creamy texture.
Not much oak evident, this is all about the fruit. I'd probably have
guessed a blend of typically Rhone grapes blind, reminds me of a
Tardieu-Laurent Rhone though not as oaky. Not my favorite style, but
well-done and very popular. B

2004 Campo Viejo *Crianza
Fairly light bodied, all red berries (especially raspberry). Clean, OK
sipper, though very short on finish. B-

2002 Marchal "Cuvee Gravel" Bourgogne
Lovely cherry and raspberry fruit with a sense of purity, fruit
sweetness beautifully balanced by firms acids. Very light tannins
remaining. nice finish. This bottle was drained fast, but got one more
pour from bottom that I nursed, more earthy/mushroom than on opening.
Very very nice for level. B+/A-

1996 Ch. Le Crock (St Estephe)
I almost skipped this, having had a few times and found hard and
charmless. But this was a pleasant surprise- fruit much more appealing
than in past. Black and red currants, an overlay of cigarbox and
leather. Not enough density or length to be a great Bordeaux, but as
the tannins have integrated a much nicer wine than before. B+

Since Betsy was unsure how much food would be left when she got to
party, and also felt that Easter needs ham (her sister's family are
pesce-vegetarians, and the potluck bringers all knew that), I had put
a ham in the oven with timer start. After party we came home, chilled
out for a while, then I made potato salad and some broccoli. The ham
wine was the 2005 Muri-Gries Lagrein Rosato (Alto Adige). I was a
little hesitant buying this, having found some Muri-Gries wines a bit
more international than my tastes. But this was a pleasant surprise,
big bright strawberry fruit, *a bit more gravitas than I expect in a
rose. Good acidity, good length. Worked well with the ham; though this
is maybe a little fuller than what I look for in a summer-by-the-river
sipper, I'll probably get some more. Good qpr at under $10. B/B+

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.


I actually visited Le Crock in 2002. It reminded me of the Addams
Family house as it looked haunted, run down, broken windows with
drapes flying about, old ivy covered most everything. The vineyards
were a bit unkempt and the winery itself was quite small and downright
dirty. There is some connection with Chateau Leoville Poyferre (some
common ownership if I understood their French correctly) as they used
old Poyferre barrels. We tasted the 2000 and the 2001 (from barrel)
and the wines really weren't bad given the price at the time of about
12 Euro. Their in a great neighborhood but the winery needed cleaned
up a bit.

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On Apr 9, 10:32�am, "Bi!!" wrote:
On Apr 9, 9:24?am, "DaleW" wrote:





Easter Sunday Betsy played the matinee, I went to her sister's for a
big party (she joined at end). Lots of old friends there, ?kids having
a ball with Easter egg hunt even though it was unseasonably cold, good
food, ping pong. There were a variety of wines, some the host had put
out and some that people had brought. Not every wine got opened- I
felt it bad manners to open without host's invite when there were
several open bottles on table. For me that was a mixed disappointment
(1998 La Fleur du Bouard) and relief (a wine from NJ called
Almondique: "American white table flavored with almonds, caramel
coloring added"). OK, I admit I had a morbid curiosity re the latter.
I didn't try every wine that WAS opened, but I did try:


2001 Schmitt ?Niersteiner Hipping Riesling Sp?ese (Rheinhessen)
Showing rounder than most 2001s, apple and plum fruit dominate with
only a faint mineral note. Pleasant enough. B/B-


2002 Cora Muscat (Penedes)
I'll admit I'm not generally a fan of dry Muscat, although there have
been a few (Austrian and Alsace) that I've enjoyed. This is a reminder
that I'm not generally a fan. Floral nose that reminds me a bit of
cheap perfume, grapey on the palate. A little hint of "oak-chippy"
vanilla. Low acid, low interest. C/C+


2005 Bailly "Les Loges" Pouilly-Fume
Citrus fruit with little notes of catpee/gooseberry, a bit of grass.
Good acidity, good ripeness, nice if not exciting. B


2003 Ercavio Tempranillo Roble (Tierra de Castlla)
Big ?jammy fruit, very ripe dark berries with a smooth creamy texture.
Not much oak evident, this is all about the fruit. I'd probably have
guessed a blend of typically Rhone grapes blind, reminds me of a
Tardieu-Laurent Rhone though not as oaky. Not my favorite style, but
well-done and very popular. B


2004 Campo Viejo ?Crianza
Fairly light bodied, all red berries (especially raspberry). Clean, OK
sipper, though very short on finish. B-


2002 Marchal "Cuvee Gravel" Bourgogne
Lovely cherry and raspberry fruit with a sense of purity, fruit
sweetness beautifully balanced by firms acids. Very light tannins
remaining. nice finish. This bottle was drained fast, but got one more
pour from bottom that I nursed, more earthy/mushroom than on opening.
Very very nice for level. B+/A-


1996 Ch. Le Crock (St Estephe)
I almost skipped this, having had a few times and found hard and
charmless. But this was a pleasant surprise- fruit much more appealing
than in past. Black and red currants, an overlay of cigarbox and
leather. Not enough density or length to be a great Bordeaux, but as
the tannins have integrated a much nicer wine than before. B+


Since Betsy was unsure how much food would be left when she got to
party, and also felt that Easter needs ham (her sister's family are
pesce-vegetarians, and the potluck bringers all knew that), I had put
a ham in the oven with timer start. After party we came home, chilled
out for a while, then I made potato salad and some broccoli. The ham
wine was the 2005 Muri-Gries Lagrein Rosato (Alto Adige). I was a
little hesitant buying this, having found some Muri-Gries wines a bit
more international than my tastes. But this was a pleasant surprise,
big bright strawberry fruit, ?a bit more gravitas than I expect in a
rose. Good acidity, good length. Worked well with the ham; though this
is maybe a little fuller than what I look for in a summer-by-the-river
sipper, I'll probably get some more. Good qpr at under $10. B/B+


Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.


I actually visited Le Crock in 2002. *It reminded me of the Addams
Family house as it looked haunted, run down, broken windows with
drapes flying about, old ivy covered most everything. *The vineyards
were a bit unkempt and the winery itself was quite small and downright
dirty. *There is some connection with Chateau Leoville Poyferre (some
common ownership if I understood their French correctly) as they used
old Poyferre barrels. *We tasted the 2000 and the 2001 (from barrel)
and the wines really weren't bad given the price at the time of about
12 Euro. *Their in a great neighborhood but the winery needed cleaned
up a bit.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I heard it is owned by the Cuvelier family of L�oville-Poyferr�.
Supposedly there is investment in improvements, although I personally
always liked the Addams family.

I found my scribbles from Easter, left out 2 wines:

1999 Ch. La Roque "Cupa Numismae" Pic St.-Loup
First wine I tasted, and surprised I forgot it. Big impressive wine, a
little bacon/grilled meat over big berry fruit. Tannins perceptible
but round, good finish. This needed some rare beef, but it was a pesce-
vegetarian party. B+/B

2004 2004 Eugen Muller Forster Mariengarten Kabinett
Nose of lemon and flowers, on the palate gauva & mango with a squirt
of citrus. Good acidity, maybe a tad short. B



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