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Old 20-01-2006, 09:46 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
SlipperySlope
 
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Karen Winter lied:

SlipperySlope wrote:

Karen Winter lied:

Wesley *claimed* this.



He was the one who mentioned it first.



No, you mentioned it first



That is false. In a post on 1/18 at 7:54, Wesley wrote:

"Volunteers were convicted of smothering puppies in Virginia."


Not in this thread he didn't.



to which I responded:

"I don't believe it."

And indeed no one has presented any evidence Wesley's claim was true.

Google it yourself, if you like.

I don't really mind you calling me by a wrong name.


It's your name. This is established: same ISP, IP
address in Santa Fe, same stupidly thorough familiarity
with every "ar" hack writer, same use of absurd
extremist leftwing terminology ("companion animals",
bleagh). You are Karen Winter.

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Old 20-01-2006, 09:49 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
SlipperySlope
 
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Karen Winter lied:

SlipperySlope wrote:

Karen Winter lied:
[...]

I don't really mind you calling me by a wrong name.


Interesting as well, Karen, that although you claim
it's a false name and that you don't mind my referring
to you by it, it apparently bothered you enough that
you *removed* all the references to it and restored one
of them to your silly, juvenile pseudonyn.

You are always such a terrible liar, Karen - yet you
never stop trying.
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Old 21-01-2006, 12:33 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
SlipperySlope
 
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More funny crap by Karen Winter that *proves* it's
Karen Winter:

But if you do not stop posting false
claims about what others have posted here, I will be forced to
killfile you.


You "will be forced", eh? There's that *classic* Karen
Winter passivism again. No, Karen - you would *choose*
to killfile me (and people who announce their
killfilings are arrogant scum). No one would be
"forcing" you to do anything.

Always see yourself as some kind of victim, don't you?
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Old 21-01-2006, 12:40 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
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Karen Winter lied:

SlipperySlope wrote:

Karen Winter lied:

there is a movement today to replace "pet owner"
with "companion animal guardian" as the preferred term.



It's just more of your empty symbolism



It certainly is symbolic,


Emptily symbolic - just like your "veganism".


because, as I said, until the
*legal* status of animals changes


It isn't going to change.


there will be no major
progress. However, language is very important.


Right. It is especially important not to succumb to
the use of inflammatory, ideological language like
"companion animals" in place of the perfectly
serviceable and correct "pets", and fortunately, not
1/100 of one percent of the population does so.


The words
we use both reflect and create our mental landscape, and
the idea that a human companion is a guardian rather than
an "owner" creates a very different picture in the mind of
the person who uses the term. I do hope the terminology
becomes more common; it will reflect a healthy shift in the
popular mind. Children have guardians, not owners,


Children are not animals. Animals *do* have owners,
and that's just how it is, and it is good.
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Old 21-01-2006, 03:48 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
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SlipperySlope wrote:

Glorfindel - you would *choose* to killfile me


And so I do. No point in being polite to you, obviously.


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Old 21-01-2006, 04:09 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
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In article .com,
says...
there - their
there - their
dads - dad's
Hes - He's
whats - what's



Who died and made you an Enlish Teacher?
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Old 21-01-2006, 04:12 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
John Wesley
 
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In article et,
says...
Karen Winter lied:



She is full of crap isn't she! I gave up. You can't make her
understand even with facts.

jw
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Old 21-01-2006, 04:31 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
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Karen Winter wrote:

SlipperySlope wrote:

Karen - you would *choose* to killfile me



And so I do.


So what was with the malarkey about "being forced"?

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Old 21-01-2006, 04:33 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
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John Wesley wrote:

In article et,
says...

Karen Winter lied:




She is full of crap isn't she! I gave up. You can't make her
understand even with facts.


Karen Winter ("glorfindel" - what a stupid pseudonym,
but typical for her: pure fantasyland) is a
deliberately self-deluded nut.


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Old 21-01-2006, 04:58 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
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In article , says...
John Wesley wrote:

You can't deny the truth!


This is obviously an unusual episode, and, as the article
indicates, was contrary to PETA policy, and not
authorized by PETA.


read this.
especially the 3rd paragraph


PETA Kills Puppies and Kittens
June 21, 2005 - In a development stunning even to those who actively
follow the outrageous exploits of animal rights extremists, two full-
time staff members of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
(PETA), based in Norfolk, Virginia, have been charged with 31 felony
counts of animal cruelty after allegedly killing and disposing of 31
dead animals in a grocery store dumpster late last week. The Animal
Agriculture Alliance (Alliance) today called for a federal investigation
into these actions and greater scrutiny of potentially-related actions.

Authorities in Ahoskie, North Carolina have publicly charged the PETA
employees, Andrew Benjamin Cook and Adria Joy Hinkle, with 31 felony
counts of animal cruelty after the duo allegedly dumped 7 puppies and 11
other pets in a grocery store dumpster. When the authorities searched
their van, registered to PETA, the authorities found another 13 dead
pets, including two kittens which a local veterinarian is quoted as
being ''very adoptable.'' We understand that only hours earlier, Cook
and Hinkle picked up the animals from the local shelter, identifying
themselves as PETA employees, claming they would find the animals ''good
homes.''

This incident may be part of a pattern. According to news reports, the
grocery store manager in indicated that the duo had illicitly used his
dumpster as an impromptu pet cemetery nine times. Other similar reports
come from Greenville, North Carolina where authorities discovered more
than 70 dead animals last month which they believe to be connected to
PETA. Likewise, this spring, authorities found over 150 dead dogs dumped
in trash bags near a riverbank in Scott County, Virginia.

For years PETA has portrayed itself as a champion of animal rights,
attacking American farmers and ranchers who care for their animals. The
Alliance submits PETA's ''champion'' status would be highly misleading
if the organization is actively involved in the destruction of highly
adoptable puppies and kittens.
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Old 21-01-2006, 01:42 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
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John Wesley wrote:

She is full of crap isn't she! I gave up. You can't make her
understand even with facts.


I understand you have an emotional connection to your companion
animal. So do I. That does not change the legal status of
either your companion animal or the similar animals raised for
meat, with whose deaths you seem to have no problem at all.

What makes a pig any different from your dog?
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Old 21-01-2006, 02:03 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
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John Wesley wrote:

snip

Glorfindel wrote:

This is obviously an unusual episode, and, as the article
indicates, was contrary to PETA policy, and not
authorized by PETA.


snip

This incident may be part of a pattern.


And it may be perpetrated by space aliens, too.

Other similar reports
come from Greenville, North Carolina where authorities discovered more
than 70 dead animals last month which


*they believe*

on what evidence? None given here

to be connected to
PETA. Likewise, this spring, authorities found over 150 dead dogs dumped
in trash bags near a riverbank in Scott County, Virginia.


No evidence this was connected with PETA is given.

This is the same kind of urban legend which was circulating years
ago claiming other things about PETA which were not true and never
proved.

How about that 100 per cent death rate in factory farming and the
dead piles and "downers" at slaughterhouses? Want to adopt some
of those animals, Wesley? Talk to Farm Sanctuary. They make
excellent companion animals.

For years PETA has portrayed itself as a champion of animal rights,
attacking American farmers and ranchers who care for their animals. The
Alliance submits PETA's ''champion'' status would be highly misleading
if the organization is actively involved in the destruction of highly
adoptable puppies and kittens.


There are always many, many more "highly adoptable" animals of all
ages who have to be put down because there are no homes for them.
PETA is attacking the problem where it needs to be attacked by
running spay/neuter campaigns and providing a mobile spay/neuter van.
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Old 23-01-2006, 02:44 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
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ant and dec wrote:
Autymn D. C. wrote:
there - their
there - their
dads - dad's
Hes - He's
whats - what's

You talk absolute ********. I suggest you seek mental help. Diputs woc.


I talk you.

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Old 24-01-2006, 01:58 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.politics.animals
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Default typical racist spew from vegans...


rick wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
oups.com...

rick wrote:
snip the racist spew from karen.....


How is it racist?
===========

Comparing slaves, which in this country and in her comparisons
are black


Her comparisons mentioned nothing about being American or black.

to dogs.


Her comparisons were based on legal status, not individual worth.

That you don't see comparing them to animals as racist says
alot...




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