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Old 07-01-2006, 08:35 PM posted to alt.food.vegan
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I truly do believe in a vegan diet. Depression has caused me to eat at
burger king, stuff myself at night, eat out 50% of the time, well you get
the idea. I'm 58, 6'1", small bones and pushing 195 pounds (and maybe some
daisies if I don't change) and I should weight about 180. This is enough to
depress anyone. I'm so screwed up I can't even have a sexual climax. So
after I take my ex-wife's relatives to the airport, yes a divorce a year ago
sure didn't help, then go out and eat a breakfast at Denny's or where ever.
Afterwards I am going to the store and buy fruits and veggies. I need 10
days on nothing but fresh fruits and veggies. A glass of water with lemon on
arising, one hour later, raw fruits. Lunch, a raw veggie salad with lemon
juice and herbs, Dinner is a veggie soup and a small granny apple at bed
time and if I get low blood sugar a small granny apple. After the 10 days
then oatmeal for breakfast and hopefully no animal products. Does this sound
about right?



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Old 08-01-2006, 03:55 PM posted to alt.food.vegan
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Richard Miller wrote:
I truly do believe in a vegan diet. Depression has caused me to eat at
burger king, stuff myself at night, eat out 50% of the time, well you get
the idea. I'm 58, 6'1", small bones and pushing 195 pounds (and maybe some
daisies if I don't change) and I should weight about 180. This is enough to
depress anyone. I'm so screwed up I can't even have a sexual climax. So
after I take my ex-wife's relatives to the airport, yes a divorce a year ago
sure didn't help, then go out and eat a breakfast at Denny's or where ever.
Afterwards I am going to the store and buy fruits and veggies. I need 10
days on nothing but fresh fruits and veggies. A glass of water with lemon on
arising, one hour later, raw fruits. Lunch, a raw veggie salad with lemon
juice and herbs, Dinner is a veggie soup and a small granny apple at bed
time and if I get low blood sugar a small granny apple. After the 10 days
then oatmeal for breakfast and hopefully no animal products. Does this sound
about right?


It sounds rather limited to me. + no obvious source of omega 3 fats,
vitamin
B12 or vitamin D and a lack of any of those may be partially
responsible
in the first place. My advice is that you really need to seek
professional help.

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Old 08-01-2006, 05:57 PM posted to alt.food.vegan
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It sounds like overcompensation. Remember that milk wreaks
osteoporosis, allergies, breast and prostate cancers, and menopause;
however, organic yoghurt (like from goat's milk) and maybe cheese is an
immunital and youthly elixir. Also, abstinence wreaks breast and
prostate cancers. Liars kill.

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Old 08-01-2006, 10:41 PM posted to alt.food.vegan
Dave
 
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Richard Miller wrote:
I truly do believe in a vegan diet. Depression has caused me to eat at
burger king, stuff myself at night, eat out 50% of the time, well you get
the idea. I'm 58, 6'1", small bones and pushing 195 pounds (and maybe some
daisies if I don't change) and I should weight about 180. This is enough to
depress anyone. I'm so screwed up I can't even have a sexual climax. So
after I take my ex-wife's relatives to the airport, yes a divorce a year ago
sure didn't help, then go out and eat a breakfast at Denny's or where ever.
Afterwards I am going to the store and buy fruits and veggies. I need 10
days on nothing but fresh fruits and veggies. A glass of water with lemon on
arising, one hour later, raw fruits. Lunch, a raw veggie salad with lemon
juice and herbs, Dinner is a veggie soup and a small granny apple at bed
time and if I get low blood sugar a small granny apple. After the 10 days
then oatmeal for breakfast and hopefully no animal products. Does this sound
about right?


Not to me. It looks like a recipe for malnourishment that isn't going
to help
with your depression and may even make it worse. I'd have thought
a balanced wholefood diet with RDA level multi-vitamin+mineral
supplement
and daily exercise would be better but really you ought to seek
professional
help and advice from people who (unlike me) are suitably qualified.
You could also try a google search.

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Old 08-01-2006, 10:43 PM posted to alt.food.vegan
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Richard Miller wrote:
I truly do believe in a vegan diet. Depression has caused me to eat at
burger king, stuff myself at night, eat out 50% of the time, well you get
the idea. I'm 58, 6'1", small bones and pushing 195 pounds (and maybe some
daisies if I don't change) and I should weight about 180. This is enough to
depress anyone. I'm so screwed up I can't even have a sexual climax. So
after I take my ex-wife's relatives to the airport, yes a divorce a year ago
sure didn't help, then go out and eat a breakfast at Denny's or where ever.
Afterwards I am going to the store and buy fruits and veggies. I need 10
days on nothing but fresh fruits and veggies. A glass of water with lemon on
arising, one hour later, raw fruits. Lunch, a raw veggie salad with lemon
juice and herbs, Dinner is a veggie soup and a small granny apple at bed
time and if I get low blood sugar a small granny apple. After the 10 days
then oatmeal for breakfast and hopefully no animal products. Does this sound
about right?




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Dave
 
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Richard Miller wrote:
I truly do believe in a vegan diet. Depression has caused me to eat at
burger king, stuff myself at night, eat out 50% of the time, well you get
the idea. I'm 58, 6'1", small bones and pushing 195 pounds (and maybe some
daisies if I don't change) and I should weight about 180. This is enough to
depress anyone. I'm so screwed up I can't even have a sexual climax. So
after I take my ex-wife's relatives to the airport, yes a divorce a year ago
sure didn't help, then go out and eat a breakfast at Denny's or where ever.
Afterwards I am going to the store and buy fruits and veggies. I need 10
days on nothing but fresh fruits and veggies. A glass of water with lemon on
arising, one hour later, raw fruits. Lunch, a raw veggie salad with lemon
juice and herbs, Dinner is a veggie soup and a small granny apple at bed
time and if I get low blood sugar a small granny apple. After the 10 days
then oatmeal for breakfast and hopefully no animal products. Does this sound
about right?


Not to me. It looks like a recipe for malnourishment that isn't going
to help
with your depression and may even make it worse. I'd have thought
a balanced wholefood diet with RDA level multi-vitamin+mineral
supplement
and daily exercise would be better but really you ought to seek
professional
help and advice from people who (unlike me) are suitably qualified.
You could also try a google search.

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Old 08-01-2006, 10:47 PM posted to alt.food.vegan
Dave
 
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Richard Miller wrote:
I truly do believe in a vegan diet. Depression has caused me to eat at
burger king, stuff myself at night, eat out 50% of the time, well you get
the idea. I'm 58, 6'1", small bones and pushing 195 pounds (and maybe some
daisies if I don't change) and I should weight about 180. This is enough to
depress anyone. I'm so screwed up I can't even have a sexual climax. So
after I take my ex-wife's relatives to the airport, yes a divorce a year ago
sure didn't help, then go out and eat a breakfast at Denny's or where ever.
Afterwards I am going to the store and buy fruits and veggies. I need 10
days on nothing but fresh fruits and veggies. A glass of water with lemon on
arising, one hour later, raw fruits. Lunch, a raw veggie salad with lemon
juice and herbs, Dinner is a veggie soup and a small granny apple at bed
time and if I get low blood sugar a small granny apple. After the 10 days
then oatmeal for breakfast and hopefully no animal products. Does this sound
about right?


Not to me. It looks like a recipe for malnourishment that isn't going
to help
with your depression and may even make it worse. I'd have thought
a balanced wholefood diet with RDA level multi-vitamin+mineral
supplement
and daily exercise would be better but really you ought to seek
professional
help and advice from people who (unlike me) are suitably qualified.
You could also try a google search.

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Old 13-01-2006, 12:51 AM posted to alt.food.vegan
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Richard Miller wrote:
I truly do believe in a vegan diet. Depression has caused me to eat at
burger king, stuff myself at night, eat out 50% of the time, well you get
the idea. I'm 58, 6'1", small bones and pushing 195 pounds (and maybe some
daisies if I don't change) and I should weight about 180. This is enough to
depress anyone. I'm so screwed up I can't even have a sexual climax. So
after I take my ex-wife's relatives to the airport, yes a divorce a year ago
sure didn't help, then go out and eat a breakfast at Denny's or where ever.
Afterwards I am going to the store and buy fruits and veggies. I need 10
days on nothing but fresh fruits and veggies. A glass of water with lemon on
arising, one hour later, raw fruits. Lunch, a raw veggie salad with lemon
juice and herbs, Dinner is a veggie soup and a small granny apple at bed
time and if I get low blood sugar a small granny apple. After the 10 days
then oatmeal for breakfast and hopefully no animal products. Does this sound
about right?



It sounds like you are in need of something more than dietary advice.

The answer to excess is moderation, not exclusion.

The only reason to go vegan is if you truly want to avoid eating animals
or being involved in promoting livestock farming. If you like the taste
of animal foods (which seems obvious, because why else would you eat
them?) you are not going to make yourself happy by excluding them from
your diet.

During the war and food rationing in Britain food health improved
significantly because many of the poor got to eat animal foods for the
first time while most people ate less meat and dairy products than they
would have done without food rationing. The simplest way to have a
healthy diet is to eat a wide variety of foods, while keeping an eye on
your intake of those foods (meat, fat, sugar and salt) which our
ancestors could rarely ever get in adequate quantities but we with our
cheap food society have in super-abundance.

If you want to go vegan then do it properly, with any diet that is
artificially restricted you have to take extra care to ensure you get
the right nutrients, it does require conscious planning but you needn't
spend your life obsessing about it. But going off half-cocked on a vegan
health trip for badly thought-out reasons isn't going to be good for
either your body or mind.

--
Martin Willett


http://mwillett.org


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