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Old 29-11-2005, 11:59 AM posted to alt.food.vegan
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Default Thinking about going on a vegan diet.

I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. I was
wondering what suppliments I would need for this. Can I just take a
multivitamin?


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Old 29-11-2005, 09:14 PM posted to alt.food.vegan
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yaj wrote:
I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. I was
wondering what suppliments I would need for this. Can I just take a
multivitamin?


The biggest nutritional problem for vegans seems to be vitamin B12.
Apparently the body can store enough B12 to last for years without B12
in the diet. The amount of B12 that is needed is very small. But
getting that small amount is important. If you wait until need B12,
then by the time you notice that you are B12 deficient the damage to
your health can be both serious and permanent. You can be in good
health for a long time and then sudden and permanent crash.

To be on the safe side, you might want to take a B12 supplement. It
won't do harm and it might save your health and your life. If you take
a B12 supplement, don't take B12 in the form of cyanocobalamin. Better
is methylcobalamin. Cyano-B12 is more popular because it is cheaper
and because it has a longer shelf life. But cyano-B12 is inferior to
methyl-B12. In the worst case scenario, cyano-B12 acts as an
antivitamin and can cause a deficiency of B12; obviously you don't want
that. In the best case scenario, cyano-B12 is not used well.
Methyl-B12 doesn't have these problems. And it tastes better too.

There are a few other possible nutritional problems with a vegan diet.
Omega-3 might be a problem. You can get omega-3 from plant-source
foods such as flax and hemp and a few others, but that's not long-chain
omega-3. The body has to convert from short-chain and medium-chain to
long-chain, and how well it does might be a question. A safer bet
might be to take a DHA supplement. This comes from seaweed and algae;
probably the only plant-sources of long-chain omega-3. The DHA in fish
oil comes from the algae that the fish eat. Deficiency of omega-3 can
cause brain diseases.
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BTW, according to Blaylock, it is possible for a blood test to show an
adequate level of B12 in the blood but the level of B12 in the tissues
can be deficient.

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Old 30-11-2005, 12:49 AM posted to alt.food.vegan
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yaj wrote:
I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. I was
wondering what suppliments I would need for this. Can I just take a
multivitamin?


If you go to the link in my sig you will find a few short articles from
trustworthy authorities about how to be healthy on a vegan diet:

Good Luck

Steve

Be A Healthy Vegan Or Vegetarian
http://www.geocities.com/beforewisdo...ealthyVeg.html

"The great American thought trap: It is not real
unless it can be seen on television or bought in a
shopping mall"
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Old 03-12-2005, 10:56 PM posted to alt.food.vegan
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Default Thinking about going on a vegan diet.

Thanks for the input everybody. This will probably help.
Steve wrote:
yaj wrote:
I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. I was
wondering what suppliments I would need for this. Can I just take a
multivitamin?


If you go to the link in my sig you will find a few short articles from
trustworthy authorities about how to be healthy on a vegan diet:

Good Luck

Steve

Be A Healthy Vegan Or Vegetarian
http://www.geocities.com/beforewisdo...ealthyVeg.html

"The great American thought trap: It is not real
unless it can be seen on television or bought in a
shopping mall"


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Default Thinking about going on a vegan diet.

yaj wrote:
I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice.


Moral choice for what?

I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this.


B12, iron, zinc, and other minerals that bind to the overabundant
mineral-robbing phytates found in a strict vegetarian diet.

Can I just take a multivitamin?


That or just eat a varied diet -- you know, one that's the "right
*health* choice" as opposed to the empty gesture you want to make.


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Old 05-12-2005, 11:48 AM posted to alt.food.vegan
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usual suspect wrote:
yaj wrote:
I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice.


Moral choice for what?

I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this.


B12, iron, zinc, and other minerals that bind to the overabundant
mineral-robbing phytates found in a strict vegetarian diet.

Can I just take a multivitamin?


That or just eat a varied diet -- you know, one that's the "right
*health* choice" as opposed to the empty gesture you want to make.


What do you think of the China Study?

The China Study:
http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html

Dr. Campbell was on C2C. He said he is 73 years old and he does a 3-4
mile run each morning.

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"Jerry Story" wrote in message
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usual suspect wrote:
yaj wrote:
I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral
choice.


Moral choice for what?

I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this.


B12, iron, zinc, and other minerals that bind to the
overabundant
mineral-robbing phytates found in a strict vegetarian diet.

Can I just take a multivitamin?


That or just eat a varied diet -- you know, one that's the
"right
*health* choice" as opposed to the empty gesture you want to
make.


What do you think of the China Study?

=
The China Study:
http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html

==========================
LOL That's a link to a shill trying to sell a book. It's not a
look at the study at all.



Dr. Campbell was on C2C. He said he is 73 years old and he
does a 3-4
mile run each morning.
=========================

I've hed many family members that would laugh at being able to
live a life so easy as to only have to run a couple miles a day
that were still more active than that into their 90s. Life on a
northern farm is work from dawn to dusk, and this time a year
before and after...



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Old 06-12-2005, 02:27 AM posted to alt.food.vegan
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Jerry Story wrote:
usual suspect wrote:

yaj wrote:

I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice.


Moral choice for what?


I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this.


B12, iron, zinc, and other minerals that bind to the overabundant
mineral-robbing phytates found in a strict vegetarian diet.


Can I just take a multivitamin?


That or just eat a varied diet -- you know, one that's the "right
*health* choice" as opposed to the empty gesture you want to make.



What do you think of the China Study?


It's bullshit. Campbell did a dietary survey, not a medical study. He
ignored other lifestyle factors, like physical activity, that also play
roles in longevity. It's not surprising to me that he would reach the
particular conclusions he did. Campbell is part of the coven along with
Neal Barnard at PCRM, a militant animal rights group with a
predominantly (95%+) lay (non-scientific) membership base.

This vocal PCRM Advisory Board member has appeared in print,
warning of the supposed dangers related to dioxin in food
(especially in meat). He also serves as chairman of a company
called Paracelsian, Inc., which markets its own proprietary
method of dioxin testing.
http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm/oid/23

See also: http://www.activistcash.com/biography.cfm/bid/1501

In fairness, though, he's not the zealot that Barnard is: Campbell's
recommendations include consumption of small amounts of fish.

Dr. Campbell was on C2C. He said he is 73 years old and he does a 3-4
mile run each morning.


Anecdotal.


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