"Soy protein cuts bone fracture risk -study", Reuters UK, September 12,
2005,
Link:
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/news...NES-SOY-DC.XML

Eating soy-based foods lessens the progress of osteoporosis in women
after menopause, when hormonal changes can rapidly thin bones and
increase the risk of fractures, researchers said on Monday.

Bone loss is particularly quick in women during the five to seven years
after menopause when a drop-off in estrogen levels may cause them to
lose up to 5 percent of bone mass yearly, the report published in the
Archives of Internal Medicine said.

Replacing estrogen through hormone replacement therapy has been found
to carry health risks, including stroke, and soy protein has been
viewed as a possible alternative.

Other ways for menopausal women to retard bone loss suggested by the
U.S. Food and Drug Administration are to exercise more and increase
consumption of calcium and vitamin D.

In the study, a sampling of 24,000 women participating in the
three-year Shanghai Women's Health Study found post-menopausal women
who ate the most soy protein had a 37 percent lower risk of bone
fracture compared to women who consumed the least soy. There were a
total of 1,770 bone fractures reported, said study author Xianglan
Zhang of Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee.

"In this prospective cohort study of post-menopausal women, we found
that soy food consumption was associated with a significantly lower
risk of fracture, particularly among women in the early years following
menopause," he wrote.

The women were divided into five categories of soy consumption, with
those in the highest consuming group eating at least 13 grams per day,
while the low-consuming group ate 5 grams per day. Average consumption
was 8.5 grams, based on the reported consumption of soy products such
as soy milk, tofu, soy sprouts and fresh soybeans.

Soy protein has been found to have beneficial effects on other symptoms
of menopause, and may reduce the risks of cardiovascular disease and
hormone-related cancers, the report said. But like estrogen, it may
stimulate growth of certain cells that may heighten the risk of breast
cancer.

*All* plant protein is superior to animal protein in maintaining good
bone health.

twit wrote:
> *All* plant protein is superior to animal protein in maintaining good
> bone health.

Ipse dixit, unproven assertion.

usual suspect wrote:
> twit wrote:
> > *All* plant protein is superior to animal protein in maintaining good
> > bone health.
>
> Ipse dixit, unproven assertion.


Animal protein leaches bone calcium.

wrote:
>>>*All* plant protein is superior to animal protein in maintaining good
>>>bone health.
>>
>>Ipse dixit, unproven assertion.
>
> Animal protein leaches bone calcium.

Ipse dixit and FALSE. *Excessive* -- AND THAT WORD IS OPERATIVE, DUMBASS
-- protein consumption can cause calcium loss. Inadequate protein intake
can also cause bones to thin.

Excess protein above the RDA especially animal protein, also
increases calcium losses. This is particularly significant when
calcium intake is marginal.
Inadequate protein and calories can also cause bones to thin.
Even with calcium and exercise, the body needs adequate overall
nutrition in order to build bone.
http://huhs.harvard.edu/ClinicalServ...ow/Calcium.htm

usual suspect wrote:
> wrote:
>
>>>> *All* plant protein is superior to animal protein in maintaining good
>>>> bone health.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ipse dixit, unproven assertion.
>>
>>
>> Animal protein leaches bone calcium.
>
>
> Ipse dixit and FALSE. *Excessive* -- AND THAT WORD IS OPERATIVE, DUMBASS
> -- protein consumption can cause calcium loss. Inadequate protein intake
> can also cause bones to thin.
>
> Excess protein above the RDA especially animal protein, also
> increases calcium losses. This is particularly significant when
> calcium intake is marginal.
> Inadequate protein and calories can also cause bones to thin.
> Even with calcium and exercise, the body needs adequate overall
> nutrition in order to build bone.
> http://huhs.harvard.edu/ClinicalServ...ow/Calcium.htm

Also, from a Tufts study:
The relationship between protein intake and supplement use also
seemed to influence the absorption of calcium. In the placebo
group, less calcium was absorbed as the amount of protein
consumed increased (p=0.017). Calcium absorption rates of
supplement users were higher overall than those of placebo users
-- probably due to higher intakes of calcium -- but THEY WERE
NOT ALTERED BY PROTEIN INTAKE (p<0.001). ANOTHER FINDING OF NOTE
WAS THAT THE PROTEIN SOURCE -- PLANT OR ANIMAL -- DID NOT APPEAR
TO AFFECT BMD-RELATED CHANGES.
http://www.healthandage.com/PHome/gm=20!gid2=1789

My emphasis. You have again been debunked and shown to be a charlatan.

I like many of your references, but a few of the studies you sight
once in a while -such as this one- Suspect, contain 'may' or 'may
not', and 'appear to' and 'don't appear to', and aren't really
knock-out blows.

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:46:22 GMT, usual suspect >
wrote:

>usual suspect wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> *All* plant protein is superior to animal protein in maintaining good
>>>>> bone health.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ipse dixit, unproven assertion.
>>>
>>>
>>> Animal protein leaches bone calcium.
>>
>>
>> Ipse dixit and FALSE. *Excessive* -- AND THAT WORD IS OPERATIVE, DUMBASS
>> -- protein consumption can cause calcium loss. Inadequate protein intake
>> can also cause bones to thin.
>>
>> Excess protein above the RDA especially animal protein, also
>> increases calcium losses. This is particularly significant when
>> calcium intake is marginal.
>> Inadequate protein and calories can also cause bones to thin.
>> Even with calcium and exercise, the body needs adequate overall
>> nutrition in order to build bone.
>> http://huhs.harvard.edu/ClinicalServ...ow/Calcium.htm
>
>Also, from a Tufts study:
> The relationship between protein intake and supplement use also
> seemed to influence the absorption of calcium. In the placebo
> group, less calcium was absorbed as the amount of protein
> consumed increased (p=0.017). Calcium absorption rates of
> supplement users were higher overall than those of placebo users
> -- probably due to higher intakes of calcium -- but THEY WERE
> NOT ALTERED BY PROTEIN INTAKE (p<0.001). ANOTHER FINDING OF NOTE
> WAS THAT THE PROTEIN SOURCE -- PLANT OR ANIMAL -- DID NOT APPEAR
> TO AFFECT BMD-RELATED CHANGES.
> http://www.healthandage.com/PHome/gm=20!gid2=1789
>
>My emphasis. You have again been debunked and shown to be a charlatan.