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Science marches on...
What will the AR and "ethical vegan" whiners do when this is perfected?
Have to learn logic and science? http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=4579 Laurie |
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Laurie wrote: > What will the AR and "ethical vegan" whiners do when this is perfected? > Have to learn logic and science? > http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=4579 > > Laurie > > > It's an emotional reaction, but it disgusts me. Does someone having moral beliefs make them a whiner? Maybe it will put the meat manufacturing industry out of business and reduce the suffering of meat factories. I hope so. Will they account for a digestive system that is many times the length of the trunk and is not designed to eat meat? What are the long term effects? |
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Beach Runner wrote:
>> What will the AR and "ethical vegan" whiners do when this is >> perfected? Have to learn logic and science? >> http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=4579 > > It's an emotional reaction, but it disgusts me. Why? > Does someone having moral beliefs make them a whiner? You don't have any moral beliefs. > Maybe it will put the meat manufacturing industry out of business WTF do you think is the ultimate goal of those trying to make meat in labs, dipshit? To *manufacture meat*. > and reduce the suffering of meat factories. There are no "meat factories." They're called farms. These scientists will change that: reduced farms for real meat, factories for this product which you shouldn't find objectionable on AR grounds since it doesn't "harm" a "sentient being." |
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usual suspect wrote: > Beach Runner wrote: > >>> What will the AR and "ethical vegan" whiners do when this is >>> perfected? Have to learn logic and science? >>> http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=4579 >> >> >> It's an emotional reaction, but it disgusts me. > > > Why? > >> Does someone having moral beliefs make them a whiner? > > > You don't have any moral beliefs. > You're wrong >> Maybe it will put the meat manufacturing industry out of business > > > WTF do you think is the ultimate goal of those trying to make meat in > labs, dipshit? To *manufacture meat*. > >> and reduce the suffering of meat factories. > I agree "that" would be good. I also would not chose to eat such things. I don't want to be a guinea pig (like gene manipulation) like the many new chemicals which have proven to be toxic. What about Pig Gestation boxes, where pigs are kept in boxes. Pigs are smarter than dogs so it's easy to see they suffer. > > There are no "meat factories." They're called farms. These scientists > will change that: reduced farms for real meat, factories for this > product which you shouldn't find objectionable on AR grounds since it > doesn't "harm" a "sentient being." Tell that to chickens kept in cages and never see the light of day. That's hardly a farm. Turkeys have have their beaks cut off so they can't choose their foods. That's not what people think of when they see Farmer Jones's farms. |
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Beach Rambler wrote:
>>>> What will the AR and "ethical vegan" whiners do when this is >>>> perfected? Have to learn logic and science? >>>> http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=4579 >>> >>> >>> >>> It's an emotional reaction, but it disgusts me. >> >> Why? WHY DOES IT DISGUST YOU? >>> Does someone having moral beliefs make them a whiner? >> >> You don't have any moral beliefs. > > You're wrong Ipse dixit. Your veganism/animal rights beliefs aren't moral. Veganism is a pseudoethical system which pretends to be a "solution" which reduces or eliminates a specific "problem." The fact, though, is that veganism in nearly every instance exacerbates the problem it seeks to solve. Veganism is predicated on the logical fallacy of denying the antecedent: "if I don't eat meat (or consume dairy or wear fur, etc.), animals don't suffer." Animals DO suffer and die to produce non-meat foods through standard agricultural practices including the use of machinery, irrigation, pesticides, etc. In short, veganism objects to the death of just one animal which others eat while turning a blind eye to the thousands of dead animals which die to produce a vegan's diet. >>> Maybe it will put the meat manufacturing industry out of business >> >> WTF do you think is the ultimate goal of those trying to make meat in >> labs, dipshit? To *manufacture meat*. >> >>> and reduce the suffering of meat factories. > > I agree "that" would be good. Why are you agreeing with what you wrote, dumb ass? > I also would not chose to eat such things. Choose. Why not? You already eat foods which are very much similar to those either for yourself or for your shack-up girlfriend's granddaughter. > I don't want to be a guinea pig You may as well be, Bob. After all, you claim to have been a vegan for over 30 years and that you're over 50 years-old. That means you've been orthorexic nearly your entire adult life for some very dubious reasons. What are the results of your three decades of orthorexia? You have a WOMAN'S DISEASE -- osteoporosis -- and you have to take B12 shots. You are NOT the poster child for veganism's benefits and you really shouldn't hold yourself up as one. > What about Pig Gestation > boxes, where pigs are kept in boxes. They're NOT boxes, they're stalls. Stop being a sycophant for anti-farming activists. You're probably operating off disinformation from the 2002 initiative to ban them in Florida. The activists also suggested that passage of the amendment would protect citizens from the influx of corporate hog farming. The state of Florida lacks the infrastructure to support large hog operations, he points out. The new amendment will have little or no impact on hog farming, declares Hall. The only two producers in the state using gestation stalls are planning to phase out their operations, he adds. The amendment goes into effect in 2008.... Kathy Chinn, chairman of the National Pork Board’s Animal Welfare Committee, says it is too bad so many of Florida’s voters lacked the benefit of scientific information or understanding of animal care practices. "They don’t understand that our livelihood depends on the welfare of our animals, and individually housing sows greatly enhances their welfare," she states. "Sows are protected from the aggressive nature of their neighbors." http://nationalhogfarmer.com/news/fa...aws_gestation/ > Pigs are smarter than dogs They're certainly smarter than you. >> There are no "meat factories." They're called farms. These scientists >> will change that: reduced farms for real meat, factories for this >> product which you shouldn't find objectionable on AR grounds since it >> doesn't "harm" a "sentient being." > > Tell that to chickens Chickens don't understand any human language, you moron. |
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"useless cesspool" > wrote in message
. .. \> You may as well be, Bob. After all, you claim to have been a vegan for > over 30 years and that you're over 50 years-old. That means you've been > orthorexic nearly your entire adult life for some very dubious reasons. > What are the results of your three decades of orthorexia? You have a > WOMAN'S DISEASE -- osteoporosis -- and you have to take B12 shots. You > are NOT the poster child for veganism's benefits and you really > shouldn't hold yourself up as one. You are the only one here who fits the description of orthorexia. I have a friend who is an average meat eater. He has been all his life. He is now in his 60s and he has osteoporosis. How did he get it according to you? -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ |
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Dependency-Scented Liar wrote:
>>You may as well be, Bob. After all, you claim to have been a vegan for >>over 30 years and that you're over 50 years-old. That means you've been >>orthorexic nearly your entire adult life for some very dubious reasons. >>What are the results of your three decades of orthorexia? You have a >>WOMAN'S DISEASE -- osteoporosis -- and you have to take B12 shots. You >>are NOT the poster child for veganism's benefits and you really >>shouldn't hold yourself up as one. > > You are the only one here Bob has a woman's disease and takes B12 shots after thirty years of veganism. Don't tell me veganism is inherently healthy. Bob is proof to the contrary. Dittos for the morbidly obese self-crippled ex-greasemonkey in Eastbourne, who's a candidate for adult-onset diabetes if he doesn't already have it (it would certainly explain his "bluefoot"). |
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"usual suspect" > wrote in message
.. . > Dependency-Scented Liar wrote: > >>You may as well be, Bob. After all, you claim to have been a vegan for > >>over 30 years and that you're over 50 years-old. That means you've been > >>orthorexic nearly your entire adult life for some very dubious reasons. > >>What are the results of your three decades of orthorexia? You have a > >>WOMAN'S DISEASE -- osteoporosis -- and you have to take B12 shots. You > >>are NOT the poster child for veganism's benefits and you really > >>shouldn't hold yourself up as one. > > > > You are the only one here > > Bob has a woman's disease and takes B12 shots after thirty years of > veganism. Don't tell me veganism is inherently healthy. Bob is proof to > the contrary. Dittos for the morbidly obese self-crippled > ex-greasemonkey in Eastbourne, who's a candidate for adult-onset > diabetes if he doesn't already have it (it would certainly explain his > "bluefoot"). You're avoiding my question. How do you explain my male friend who's been a meat eater for over 60 years and has this "women's disease"? -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ |
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usual suspect wrote: > Beach Rambler wrote: > >>>>> What will the AR and "ethical vegan" whiners do when this is >>>>> perfected? Have to learn logic and science? >>>>> http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=4579 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It's an emotional reaction, but it disgusts me. >>> >>> >>> Why? After what you wrote, none of your ****ing business. > > > WHY DOES IT DISGUST YOU? > It reminds me of >>>> Does someone having moral beliefs make them a whiner? >>> >>> >>> You don't have any moral beliefs. **** you. >> >> >> You're wrong > > > Ipse dixit. You love that phrase. Do you jerk off to it? Your veganism/animal rights beliefs aren't moral. Veganism > is a pseudoethical system which pretends to be a "solution" which > reduces or eliminates a specific "problem." The fact, though, is that > veganism in nearly every instance exacerbates the problem it seeks to > solve. Veganism is predicated on the logical fallacy of denying the > antecedent: "if I don't eat meat (or consume dairy or wear fur, etc.), > animals don't suffer." Animals DO suffer and die to produce non-meat > foods through standard agricultural practices including the use of > machinery, irrigation, pesticides, etc. In short, veganism objects to > the death of just one animal which others eat while turning a blind eye > to the thousands of dead animals which die to produce a vegan's diet. > YOu have no ****ing memory. Nothing is perfect. I have said I use organic produce whenever possible. >>>> Maybe it will put the meat manufacturing industry out of business >>> >>> >>> WTF do you think is the ultimate goal of those trying to make meat in >>> labs, dipshit? To *manufacture meat*. >>> >>>> and reduce the suffering of meat factories. >> >> >> I agree "that" would be good. > > > Why are you agreeing with what you wrote, dumb ass? > That aspect would be good, even if I chose not to eat it. >> I also would not chose to eat such things. > > > Choose. Why not? You already eat foods which are very much similar to > those either for yourself or for your shack-up girlfriend's granddaughter. > >> I don't want to be a guinea pig > > > You may as well be, Bob. After all, you claim to have been a vegan for > over 30 years and that you're over 50 years-old. That means you've been > orthorexic nearly your entire adult life for some very dubious reasons. > What are the results of your three decades of orthorexia? You have a > WOMAN'S DISEASE -- osteoporosis -- and you have to take B12 shots. You > are NOT the poster child for veganism's benefits and you really > shouldn't hold yourself up as one. > As you don't recall, perhaps you should be checked for Alzheimer's, my brother who is a scientist and eats a "scientifically conceived" diet has much worse osteoporosis than me. He eats a well rounded diet, as you would call it, avoid saturated fats, and empty calories. But he eats a variety of low fat meat and fish. I won't identify him, but he is published in several fields. In his early research days they managed to kill pigs on a diet mostly of cream and butter. It sure got his attention. I take B12 shots as a preventive measure. I specifically asked for them, they were not proscribed. I am in the safe range, but would prefer to be higher. And I'm in a normal range. You have a sickness Bob >> What about Pig Gestation boxes, where pigs are kept in boxes. > > > They're NOT boxes, they're stalls. Stop being a sycophant for > anti-farming activists. You're probably operating off disinformation > from the 2002 initiative to ban them in Florida. > > The activists also suggested that passage of the amendment would > protect citizens from the influx of corporate hog farming. The > state of Florida lacks the infrastructure to support large hog > operations, he points out. > > The new amendment will have little or no impact on hog farming, > declares Hall. The only two producers in the state using > gestation stalls are planning to phase out their operations, he > adds. The amendment goes into effect in 2008.... > > Kathy Chinn, chairman of the National Pork Board’s Animal > Welfare Committee, says it is too bad so many of Florida’s > voters lacked the benefit of scientific information or > understanding of animal care practices. > > "They don’t understand that our livelihood depends on the > welfare of our animals, and individually housing sows greatly > enhances their welfare," she states. "Sows are protected from > the aggressive nature of their neighbors." > http://nationalhogfarmer.com/news/fa...aws_gestation/ > >> Pigs are smarter than dogs > > > They're certainly smarter than you. > >>> There are no "meat factories." They're called farms. These scientists >>> will change that: reduced farms for real meat, factories for this >>> product which you shouldn't find objectionable on AR grounds since it >>> doesn't "harm" a "sentient being." >> >> >> Tell that to chickens > > > Chickens don't understand any human language, you moron. |
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Beach Rambler wrote:
>>>>>> What will the AR and "ethical vegan" whiners do when this is >>>>>> perfected? Have to learn logic and science? >>>>>> http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=4579 >>>>> >>>>> It's an emotional reaction, but it disgusts me. >>>> >>>> Why? > > After what you wrote, none of your ****ing business. Poor baby. Specifically, which part set you off? >> WHY DOES IT DISGUST YOU? > > It reminds me of Of what? >>>>> Does someone having moral beliefs make them a whiner? >>>> >>>> You don't have any moral beliefs. > > **** you. Hehe. At least I have nothing to fear from your anger since you've already admitted you're not man enough to attempt what you say should be done to me. >>> You're wrong >> >> Ipse dixit. > > You love that phrase. No, I use it when appropriate. >> Your veganism/animal rights beliefs aren't moral. Veganism >> is a pseudoethical system which pretends to be a "solution" which >> reduces or eliminates a specific "problem." The fact, though, is that >> veganism in nearly every instance exacerbates the problem it seeks to >> solve. Veganism is predicated on the logical fallacy of denying the >> antecedent: "if I don't eat meat (or consume dairy or wear fur, etc.), >> animals don't suffer." Animals DO suffer and die to produce non-meat >> foods through standard agricultural practices including the use of >> machinery, irrigation, pesticides, etc. In short, veganism objects to >> the death of just one animal which others eat while turning a blind >> eye to the thousands of dead animals which die to produce a vegan's diet. > > YOu have no ****ing memory. Nothing is perfect. I have said I use > organic produce whenever possible. Organic produce is no different than conventional in the instances above. Organic doesn't reduce animal suffering or death. >>>>> Maybe it will put the meat manufacturing industry out of business >>>> >>>> WTF do you think is the ultimate goal of those trying to make meat >>>> in labs, dipshit? To *manufacture meat*. >>>> >>>>> and reduce the suffering of meat factories. >>> >>> I agree "that" would be good. >> >> Why are you agreeing with what you wrote, dumb ass? > > That aspect would be good, even if I chose not to eat it. Why would it be good? >>> I also would not chose to eat such things. >> >> Choose. Why not? You already eat foods which are very much similar to >> those either for yourself or for your shack-up girlfriend's >> granddaughter. >> >>> I don't want to be a guinea pig >> >> You may as well be, Bob. After all, you claim to have been a vegan for >> over 30 years and that you're over 50 years-old. That means you've >> been orthorexic nearly your entire adult life for some very dubious >> reasons. What are the results of your three decades of orthorexia? You >> have a WOMAN'S DISEASE -- osteoporosis -- and you have to take B12 >> shots. You are NOT the poster child for veganism's benefits and you >> really shouldn't hold yourself up as one. > > As you don't recall, perhaps you should be checked for Alzheimer's, my > brother who is a scientist No, he's a lawyer. > and eats a "scientifically conceived" diet > has much worse osteoporosis than me. "than I." He's older than you are, too. > He eats a well rounded diet, as > you would call it, avoid saturated fats, and empty calories. But he > eats a variety of low fat meat and fish. I won't identify him, but he > is published in several fields. Why does it matter if he's published? > In his early research days they managed to kill pigs on a diet mostly of > cream and butter. It sure got his attention. > > I take B12 shots as a preventive measure. I specifically asked for > them, they were not proscribed. Prescribed. I don't believe a doctor would give you B12 injections unless you needed them. > I am in the safe range, but would > prefer to be higher. > > And I'm in a normal range. You're abnormal. > You have a sickness No, I feel quite fine. Why did you ignore the following? >>> What about Pig Gestation boxes, where pigs are kept in boxes. >> >> They're NOT boxes, they're stalls. Stop being a sycophant for >> anti-farming activists. You're probably operating off disinformation >> from the 2002 initiative to ban them in Florida. >> >> The activists also suggested that passage of the amendment would >> protect citizens from the influx of corporate hog farming. The >> state of Florida lacks the infrastructure to support large hog >> operations, he points out. >> >> The new amendment will have little or no impact on hog farming, >> declares Hall. The only two producers in the state using >> gestation stalls are planning to phase out their operations, he >> adds. The amendment goes into effect in 2008.... >> >> Kathy Chinn, chairman of the National Pork Board’s Animal >> Welfare Committee, says it is too bad so many of Florida’s >> voters lacked the benefit of scientific information or >> understanding of animal care practices. >> >> "They don’t understand that our livelihood depends on the >> welfare of our animals, and individually housing sows greatly >> enhances their welfare," she states. "Sows are protected from >> the aggressive nature of their neighbors." >> http://nationalhogfarmer.com/news/fa...aws_gestation/ Why did you lie about gestation stalls? >>> Pigs are smarter than dogs >> >> They're certainly smarter than you. >> >>>> There are no "meat factories." They're called farms. These >>>> scientists will change that: reduced farms for real meat, factories >>>> for this product which you shouldn't find objectionable on AR >>>> grounds since it doesn't "harm" a "sentient being." >>> >>> Tell that to chickens >> >> Chickens don't understand any human language, you moron. When was the last time you tried to carry on a debate with a rooster? I bet it strutted away the winner, bird brain. BTW, have you done the water calculations for Mr Etter yet? |
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