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Old 15-08-2005, 12:25 AM
Beach Runner
 
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The Torah except for a few evangelist is not considered a literal
document. Besides, Judaism was recreated when the Jews were thrown out
of their homeland. It has never been anyone else's homeland.

The dietary laws were one of the factors that have kept the Jews a
people long after their enemies have gone into the dust of history.
The Greeks, the Romans, The Nazis, Hamen, the Philistines, and so many
others no longer exist. But Jews still exist, and their dietary
standards were considered a factor that united them.

To call them a sickness is anti-Semitic.

Much of the Bible is clearly nonsense, and a scholastic study shows it
was written by several sources that contradict itself. Yet that tiny
country is the leader of R&D in the world.

I've wasted enough time you. You have been made a fool of,
your postings on global warming were posted and you didn't even
recognize it. Everyone knows you get your pleasure out of hurting
other's feelings. That's sick. You should get help and find out why you
feel this need.

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Old 15-08-2005, 02:29 AM
C. James Strutz
 
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"Beach Runner" wrote in message
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The Torah except for a few evangelist is not considered a literal
document. Besides, Judaism was recreated when the Jews were thrown out of
their homeland. It has never been anyone else's homeland.

The dietary laws were one of the factors that have kept the Jews a people
long after their enemies have gone into the dust of history.
The Greeks, the Romans, The Nazis, Hamen, the Philistines, and so many
others no longer exist. But Jews still exist, and their dietary standards
were considered a factor that united them.

To call them a sickness is anti-Semitic.

Much of the Bible is clearly nonsense, and a scholastic study shows it was
written by several sources that contradict itself. Yet that tiny country
is the leader of R&D in the world.

I've wasted enough time you. You have been made a fool of,
your postings on global warming were posted and you didn't even recognize
it. Everyone knows you get your pleasure out of hurting other's feelings.
That's sick. You should get help and find out why you feel this need.


His cause is noble, he makes a lot of good points, and he has the ability
and wherewithal to make a difference in the world. It's just unfortunate
that he finds amusement in picking on other people's faults, knocking down
their aspirations, and insulting them in the most injurious manner
imaginable. I've tried compromising with him and, while we can sometimes
find temporary peace, he continues his bad behavior with other contributors
to this newsgroup. There will be no more olive branches offered and none
accepted. The only way he can acheive any respect and credibility is to
redeem himself. But don't hold your breath for results any time soon. He is
an egotistical asshole and change doesn't come easy to people like that...


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Old 15-08-2005, 01:47 PM
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C. James Strutz wrote:
His cause is noble,


Thank you.

he makes a lot of good points,


Thank you.

and he has the ability
and wherewithal to make a difference in the world.


Thank you.
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Old 15-08-2005, 02:03 PM
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Beach Runner wrote:
The Torah except for a few evangelist is not considered a literal
document. Besides, Judaism was recreated when the Jews were thrown out
of their homeland. It has never been anyone else's homeland.


Explain that to the Palestinians.

The dietary laws were one of the factors that have kept the Jews a
people long after their enemies have gone into the dust of history.


Diet played no role.

The Greeks,


Are still a people in a certain geographic region, with a culture all
their own. While the Jews were dispersed, the Greeks were still in
Greece. Maybe it was their diet? Nahhh.

the Romans,


Are still in Rome, with their own culture, too. The empire did flounder
and fall, but that was because of various management issues rather than
dietary ones. Rome is still in Italy and filled with Romans (and various
immigrant populations).

The Nazis,


Were something of a temporary "culture" -- not all Germans embraced Nazism.

Hamen,


Haman. And Persian culture, like Greek and Roman, remains fairly intact.
There was no Persian diaspora. And Iran -- Persia -- is one of modern
Israel's enemies.

the Philistines, and so many
others no longer exist.


And plenty more do, see Iran.

But Jews still exist,


So do Greeks and Romans and Persians.

and their dietary
standards were considered a factor that united them.


I disagree except to the extent that Jewish identity can be linked to
such external traits.

To call them a sickness is anti-Semitic.


No, it isn't. Anti-Semitism is "Hatred, prejudice, oppression, or
discrimination against Semites," which includes Palestinians as well as
Jews but most often is used only with respect to Jews. I don't hate
anyone, not even Jews. I'm not prejudiced against anyone, not even Jews.
I've never oppressed anyone, not even a Jew. I've never discriminated
against anyone, not even a Jew.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill when you throw out such a
serious charge for such a mild disagreement. That's the kind of charge
better suited for those who maliciously attack Jews just because they're
Jews -- something I have never and would never do.

Much of the Bible is clearly nonsense, and a scholastic study shows it
was written by several sources that contradict itself. Yet that tiny
country is the leader of R&D in the world.


Non sequitur.
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Old 20-08-2005, 08:18 PM
Laurie
 
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"usual suspect" wrote in message
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I don't hate anyone, not even Jews. I'm not prejudiced against anyone, not
even Jews. I've never oppressed anyone, not even a Jew. I've never
discriminated against anyone, not even a Jew.

Exchange "vegans" for "Jews" and see the lie come to life.

That's the kind of charge better suited for those who maliciously attack
Jews just because they're Jews -- something I have never and would never
do.

Yet, you MALICIOUSLY ATTACK veg*ns constantly.
Self-contradiction, the path to credibility.

Laurie




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