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More Veggies Fighting Cancer Info
http://tinyurl.com/a7ev2
From the University of Pittsburg. Broccoli and chili peppers fight cancer. -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites. Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button. |
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Scented Nectar wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/a7ev2 > From the University of Pittsburg. PittsburgH. With an H, as in HOSER. > Broccoli and chili peppers fight > cancer. You still can't read, can you. Two new studies suggest that vegetables such as broccoli and spices like red chili pepper, *MAY* provide a cancer-fighting benefit by slowing or preventing the growth of cancerous tumor cells. Neither study says the two foods you listed DO fight cancer. Neither do studies touting the benefits of phytochemicals in turmeric (curries), miso, etc. All they show is that people with healthier diets are healthier. Your tax dollars at work. |
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Scented Nectar wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/a7ev2 > From the University of Pittsburg. PittsburgH. With an H, as in HOSER. > Broccoli and chili peppers fight > cancer. You still can't read, can you. Two new studies suggest that vegetables such as broccoli and spices like red chili pepper, *MAY* provide a cancer-fighting benefit by slowing or preventing the growth of cancerous tumor cells. Neither study says the two foods you listed DO fight cancer. Neither do studies touting the benefits of phytochemicals in turmeric (curries), miso, etc. All they show is that people with healthier diets are healthier. Your tax dollars at work. |
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"usual suspect" > wrote in message
... > Scented Nectar wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/a7ev2 > > From the University of Pittsburg. > > PittsburgH. With an H, as in HOSER. That's between your school and theirs. I'm not getting involved in this fight. However it is an acredited university, so the study was most likely done with the proper scientific methods. > > Broccoli and chili peppers fight > > cancer. > > You still can't read, can you. > Two new studies suggest that vegetables such as broccoli and > spices like red chili pepper, *MAY* provide a cancer-fighting > benefit by slowing or preventing the growth of cancerous tumor > cells. > > Neither study says the two foods you listed DO fight cancer. Neither do > studies touting the benefits of phytochemicals in turmeric (curries), > miso, etc. All they show is that people with healthier diets are > healthier. Your tax dollars at work. MAY shows a correlation, and that makes it of interest to me and possibly other vegetarians too. -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites. Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button. |
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"usual suspect" > wrote in message
... > Scented Nectar wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/a7ev2 > > From the University of Pittsburg. > > PittsburgH. With an H, as in HOSER. That's between your school and theirs. I'm not getting involved in this fight. However it is an acredited university, so the study was most likely done with the proper scientific methods. > > Broccoli and chili peppers fight > > cancer. > > You still can't read, can you. > Two new studies suggest that vegetables such as broccoli and > spices like red chili pepper, *MAY* provide a cancer-fighting > benefit by slowing or preventing the growth of cancerous tumor > cells. > > Neither study says the two foods you listed DO fight cancer. Neither do > studies touting the benefits of phytochemicals in turmeric (curries), > miso, etc. All they show is that people with healthier diets are > healthier. Your tax dollars at work. MAY shows a correlation, and that makes it of interest to me and possibly other vegetarians too. -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites. Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button. |
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Scented Nectar wrote:
Howdy, skanky! >>>http://tinyurl.com/a7ev2 >>>From the University of Pittsburg. >> >>PittsburgH. With an H, as in HOSER. > > That's between your school > and theirs. I'm not getting > involved in this fight. Then why did you start it? > However > it is an acredited university, > so the study was most likely > done with the proper > scientific methods. Logical fallacy: Appeal to authority. >>>Broccoli and chili peppers fight >>>cancer. >> >>You still can't read, can you. >>Two new studies suggest that vegetables such as broccoli and >>spices like red chili pepper, *MAY* provide a cancer-fighting >>benefit by slowing or preventing the growth of cancerous tumor >>cells. >> >>Neither study says the two foods you listed DO fight cancer. Neither do >>studies touting the benefits of phytochemicals in turmeric (curries), >>miso, etc. All they show is that people with healthier diets are >>healthier. Your tax dollars at work. > > MAY shows a correlation, No, it does NOT. It's only suggestive of the possibility of a correlation. It does not establish one. There are a variety of other possibilities. For instance, people who eat lots of broccoli may eat healthier over all than people who avoid broccoli. They also may work out more often, not smoke, not drink, and so on. There are so many variables. You're reading far more into those studies than was actually reported. As usual. > and > that makes it of interest to me > and possibly other ....similarly feeble-minded flakes. |
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Scented Nectar wrote:
Howdy, skanky! >>>http://tinyurl.com/a7ev2 >>>From the University of Pittsburg. >> >>PittsburgH. With an H, as in HOSER. > > That's between your school > and theirs. I'm not getting > involved in this fight. Then why did you start it? > However > it is an acredited university, > so the study was most likely > done with the proper > scientific methods. Logical fallacy: Appeal to authority. >>>Broccoli and chili peppers fight >>>cancer. >> >>You still can't read, can you. >>Two new studies suggest that vegetables such as broccoli and >>spices like red chili pepper, *MAY* provide a cancer-fighting >>benefit by slowing or preventing the growth of cancerous tumor >>cells. >> >>Neither study says the two foods you listed DO fight cancer. Neither do >>studies touting the benefits of phytochemicals in turmeric (curries), >>miso, etc. All they show is that people with healthier diets are >>healthier. Your tax dollars at work. > > MAY shows a correlation, No, it does NOT. It's only suggestive of the possibility of a correlation. It does not establish one. There are a variety of other possibilities. For instance, people who eat lots of broccoli may eat healthier over all than people who avoid broccoli. They also may work out more often, not smoke, not drink, and so on. There are so many variables. You're reading far more into those studies than was actually reported. As usual. > and > that makes it of interest to me > and possibly other ....similarly feeble-minded flakes. |
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"usual suspect" > wrote in message
... > Scented Nectar wrote: > > Howdy, skanky! Howdy, Usual Cesspool! > >>>http://tinyurl.com/a7ev2 > >>>From the University of Pittsburg. > >> > >>PittsburgH. With an H, as in HOSER. > > > > That's between your school > > and theirs. I'm not getting > > involved in this fight. > > Then why did you start it? All I did was to refer to a study done there. > > However > > it is an acredited university, > > so the study was most likely > > done with the proper > > scientific methods. > > Logical fallacy: Appeal to authority. Just showing that it can't be written off as a quack study. > >>>Broccoli and chili peppers fight > >>>cancer. > >> > >>You still can't read, can you. > >>Two new studies suggest that vegetables such as broccoli and > >>spices like red chili pepper, *MAY* provide a cancer-fighting > >>benefit by slowing or preventing the growth of cancerous tumor > >>cells. > >> > >>Neither study says the two foods you listed DO fight cancer. Neither do > >>studies touting the benefits of phytochemicals in turmeric (curries), > >>miso, etc. All they show is that people with healthier diets are > >>healthier. Your tax dollars at work. > > > > MAY shows a correlation, > > No, it does NOT. It's only suggestive of the possibility of a > correlation. It does not establish one. There are a variety of other > possibilities. For instance, people who eat lots of broccoli may eat > healthier over all than people who avoid broccoli. They also may work > out more often, not smoke, not drink, and so on. There are so many > variables. You're reading far more into those studies than was actually > reported. As usual. Maybe, maybe not. But the study was still of interest to those who are vegan for health reasons. It should actually, even be of interest to the meat eater, since they rarely (pun intended) eat only meat, and might like to know more about the vegetables they eat. > > and > > that makes it of interest to me > > and possibly other > > ...similarly feeble-minded flakes. The only flakes are the nutritional yeast ones that some people use in their food. -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites. Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button. |
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"usual suspect" > wrote in message
... > Scented Nectar wrote: > > Howdy, skanky! Howdy, Usual Cesspool! > >>>http://tinyurl.com/a7ev2 > >>>From the University of Pittsburg. > >> > >>PittsburgH. With an H, as in HOSER. > > > > That's between your school > > and theirs. I'm not getting > > involved in this fight. > > Then why did you start it? All I did was to refer to a study done there. > > However > > it is an acredited university, > > so the study was most likely > > done with the proper > > scientific methods. > > Logical fallacy: Appeal to authority. Just showing that it can't be written off as a quack study. > >>>Broccoli and chili peppers fight > >>>cancer. > >> > >>You still can't read, can you. > >>Two new studies suggest that vegetables such as broccoli and > >>spices like red chili pepper, *MAY* provide a cancer-fighting > >>benefit by slowing or preventing the growth of cancerous tumor > >>cells. > >> > >>Neither study says the two foods you listed DO fight cancer. Neither do > >>studies touting the benefits of phytochemicals in turmeric (curries), > >>miso, etc. All they show is that people with healthier diets are > >>healthier. Your tax dollars at work. > > > > MAY shows a correlation, > > No, it does NOT. It's only suggestive of the possibility of a > correlation. It does not establish one. There are a variety of other > possibilities. For instance, people who eat lots of broccoli may eat > healthier over all than people who avoid broccoli. They also may work > out more often, not smoke, not drink, and so on. There are so many > variables. You're reading far more into those studies than was actually > reported. As usual. Maybe, maybe not. But the study was still of interest to those who are vegan for health reasons. It should actually, even be of interest to the meat eater, since they rarely (pun intended) eat only meat, and might like to know more about the vegetables they eat. > > and > > that makes it of interest to me > > and possibly other > > ...similarly feeble-minded flakes. The only flakes are the nutritional yeast ones that some people use in their food. -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites. Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button. |
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Scented Nectar wrote:
<...> >>>However >>>it is an acredited university, >>>so the study was most likely >>>done with the proper >>>scientific methods. >> >>Logical fallacy: Appeal to authority. > > Just showing that it can't be > written off as a quack study. I didn't write it off as a quack study. I did, however, write off your over-interpretation of the study's findings. >>>>>Broccoli and chili peppers fight >>>>>cancer. >>>> >>>>You still can't read, can you. >>>>Two new studies suggest that vegetables such as broccoli and >>>>spices like red chili pepper, *MAY* provide a cancer-fighting >>>>benefit by slowing or preventing the growth of cancerous tumor >>>>cells. >>>> >>>>Neither study says the two foods you listed DO fight cancer. Neither do >>>>studies touting the benefits of phytochemicals in turmeric (curries), >>>>miso, etc. All they show is that people with healthier diets are >>>>healthier. Your tax dollars at work. >>> >>>MAY shows a correlation, >> >>No, it does NOT. It's only suggestive of the possibility of a >>correlation. It does not establish one. There are a variety of other >>possibilities. For instance, people who eat lots of broccoli may eat >>healthier over all than people who avoid broccoli. They also may work >>out more often, not smoke, not drink, and so on. There are so many >>variables. You're reading far more into those studies than was actually >>reported. As usual. > > Maybe, maybe not. But the > study was still of interest to > those who are vegan for > health reasons. No, it isn't. First, people aren't vegan for health reasons. Second, it's of broader interest to all who want to eat a healthful diet. Broccoli and chilis, after all, are consumed by omnivores. > It should > actually, even be of interest > to the meat eater, since > they rarely (pun intended) > eat only meat, and might > like to know more about > the vegetables they eat. Do you think they need a clueless urban vegan to tell them? >>>and >>>that makes it of interest to me >>>and possibly other >> >>...similarly feeble-minded flakes. > > The only flakes are the > nutritional yeast ones that > some people use in their > food. Flake (Slang): Oddball; kook; strange person. |
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usual suspect wrote: > Scented Nectar wrote: > <...> > > >>>>>Broccoli and chili peppers fight > >>>>>cancer. > >>>> > >> [..] > > > > Maybe, maybe not. But the > > study was still of interest to > > those who are vegan for > > health reasons. > > No, it isn't. First, people aren't vegan for health reasons. I am! > Second, > it's of broader interest to all who want to eat a healthful diet. > Broccoli and chilis, after all, are consumed by omnivores. > A very good point. > >>...similarly feeble-minded flakes. > > > > The only flakes are the > > nutritional yeast ones that > > some people use in their > > food. > > Flake (Slang): Oddball; kook; strange person. Flake: A large semi-detached rock feature which is very climbable but can be loose. |
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> wrote in message ups.com... > > usual suspect wrote: >> Scented Nectar wrote: >> <...> >> >> >>>>>Broccoli and chili peppers fight >> >>>>>cancer. >> >>>> >> >> [..] >> > >> > Maybe, maybe not. But the >> > study was still of interest to >> > those who are vegan for >> > health reasons. >> >> No, it isn't. First, people aren't vegan for health reasons. > > I am! ================== No, you not. Veganism is not a diet. It's a lifestyle in which diet plays no more or nio less a part in your life. > >> Second, >> it's of broader interest to all who want to eat a healthful >> diet. >> Broccoli and chilis, after all, are consumed by omnivores. >> > > A very good point. > > >> >>...similarly feeble-minded flakes. >> > >> > The only flakes are the >> > nutritional yeast ones that >> > some people use in their >> > food. >> >> Flake (Slang): Oddball; kook; strange person. > > Flake: A large semi-detached rock feature which is very > climbable but > can be loose. > |
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> wrote in message ups.com... > > usual suspect wrote: >> Scented Nectar wrote: >> <...> >> >> >>>>>Broccoli and chili peppers fight >> >>>>>cancer. >> >>>> >> >> [..] >> > >> > Maybe, maybe not. But the >> > study was still of interest to >> > those who are vegan for >> > health reasons. >> >> No, it isn't. First, people aren't vegan for health reasons. > > I am! ================== No, you not. Veganism is not a diet. It's a lifestyle in which diet plays no more or nio less a part in your life. > >> Second, >> it's of broader interest to all who want to eat a healthful >> diet. >> Broccoli and chilis, after all, are consumed by omnivores. >> > > A very good point. > > >> >>...similarly feeble-minded flakes. >> > >> > The only flakes are the >> > nutritional yeast ones that >> > some people use in their >> > food. >> >> Flake (Slang): Oddball; kook; strange person. > > Flake: A large semi-detached rock feature which is very > climbable but > can be loose. > |
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On 2 May 2005 12:07:01 -0700, wrote:
>usual suspect wrote: >> Scented Nectar wrote: >> <...> >> >> >>>>>Broccoli and chili peppers fight >> >>>>>cancer. >> >>>> >> >> [..] >> > >> > Maybe, maybe not. But the >> > study was still of interest to >> > those who are vegan for >> > health reasons. >> >> No, it isn't. First, people aren't vegan for health reasons. > >I am! And so is or was 'usual suspect' when he claims to be vegan, so he has no basis for doubting your health reasons, or anyone else's health reasons. "I am vegan primarily for health reasons; that there are other benefits (reduced pollution, less harm to animals, etc.) is also very appealing." usual suspect 09 May 2002 http://tinyurl.com/97mnj and "The difference between us is you choose to use the cow for protein. The cow gets its protein from grasses, grains, legumes, etc., and is a mediating factor (or middleman) in your diet. My diet is direct: I get my protein from the sources the cow does. I am more efficient than you are because I avoid the cow, which requires so much feed per net pound of protein, and because my protein is much healthier (for me, for my neighbors, for the planet) than yours." usual suspect 15 May 2002 http://tinyurl.com/6xg67 'usual suspect' hasn't made up his mind whether he's a vegan or not, as his quotes below prove, but while he makes up his mind he really ought to give vegans the same respect he once asked for, to be fair. "I am vegan" usual suspect 2002-05-09 "First, don't EVER call me "a vegan" or even just "vegan." usual suspect 2003-06-10 "No thanks, I'm a vegan." usual suspect 2003-08-14 "You'll find my views have been consistent." usual suspect 2003-09-05 As we can see, his views are anything but consistent. |
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"usual suspect" > wrote in message ... > wrote: >>>>>>>>Broccoli and chili peppers fight >>>>>>>>cancer. >>>>>>> >>>>>[..] >>>> >>>>Maybe, maybe not. But the >>>>study was still of interest to >>>>those who are vegan for >>>>health reasons. >>> >>>No, it isn't. First, people aren't vegan for health reasons. >> >> I am! > > No, you are not. You may be a very strict vegetarian, but you > are a vegan only -- ONLY! -- if you do it for the benefit of > the animals you don't eat. > ================ I posted all this or him yesterday. He's whiffed off that reply.... Guess he doesn't want to hear what doesn't fit into the 'agenda.' > There is no such thing as a "dietary vegan." A "total > vegetarian" may eat a diet free of animals products for > health > reasons, such as avoiding cholesterol, and not out of > compassion > for animals. However, popular vegan author Joanne Stepaniak > writes that the term "dietary vegan" is inappropriate > because > veganism is by definition about helping animals, and a term > such > as "total vegetarian" should be used for people who avoid > eating > animal products for health reasons but, for example, buy > leather > shoes. > http://www.websters-online-dictionar...finition/vegan > >>>Second, >>>it's of broader interest to all who want to eat a healthful >>>diet. >>>Broccoli and chilis, after all, are consumed by omnivores. >> >> A very good point. > > Naturally. > > <...> |
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