"Scented Nectar" > wrote
> Dutch, you're forgetting that we have no data
> on cds for the various foods. I won't compare
> guesses.

You already do compare based on guessing. You guess that commercially grown
imported rice is a better option than locally raised chicken.

> > Dutch, you're forgetting that we have no data
> > on cds for the various foods. I won't compare
> > guesses.
>
> You already do compare based on guessing. You guess that commercially
grown
> imported rice is a better option than locally raised chicken.

The only data we have is the number of crops
needed for animal production vs. the number
of crops needed for plant food production.

That's all we have numbers for, with a few
exceptions such as the outrageous amount
of cds in shrimp fishing.


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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
news
>> > Dutch, you're forgetting that we have no data
>> > on cds for the various foods. I won't compare
>> > guesses.
>>
>> You already do compare based on guessing. You guess that commercially
> grown
>> imported rice is a better option than locally raised chicken.
>
> The only data we have is the number of crops
> needed for animal production vs. the number
> of crops needed for plant food production.
====================
No, you don't have such information killer. You actually have NO
information, as you have done, lets see, oh yeah, exactly zero research.

>
> That's all we have numbers for, with a few
> exceptions such as the outrageous amount
> of cds in shrimp fishing.
==============
Why are you suddenly excluding rice, hypocrite?

>
>
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> inside...
>

> > The only data we have is the number of crops
> > needed for animal production vs. the number
> > of crops needed for plant food production.
> ====================
> No, you don't have such information killer. You actually have NO
> information, as you have done, lets see, oh yeah, exactly zero
research.

If we base cds on crop usage, vegans
win hands down.

> > That's all we have numbers for, with a few
> > exceptions such as the outrageous amount
> > of cds in shrimp fishing.
> ==============
> Why are you suddenly excluding rice, hypocrite?


I was giving a much worse example. Why
would I talk about rice, when I'm giving a
much worse example.

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"Scented Nectar" > wrote
> > > Dutch, you're forgetting that we have no data
> > > on cds for the various foods. I won't compare
> > > guesses.
> >
> > You already do compare based on guessing. You guess that commercially
> grown
> > imported rice is a better option than locally raised chicken.
>
> The only data we have is the number of crops
> needed for animal production vs. the number
> of crops needed for plant food production.

You don't base anything on "data", you base it on the flawed vegan notion
that *zero* animal products is THE ideal with regards to health,
sustainability, and animal harm. All this blabbering about data is just so
much hand-waving.

> > The only data we have is the number of crops
> > needed for animal production vs. the number
> > of crops needed for plant food production.
>
> You don't base anything on "data", you base it on the flawed vegan
notion
> that *zero* animal products is THE ideal with regards to health,
> sustainability, and animal harm. All this blabbering about data is
just so
> much hand-waving.

Without data, a guessing game begins.
I don't play that game.


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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
> > > The only data we have is the number of crops
> > > needed for animal production vs. the number
> > > of crops needed for plant food production.
> >
> > You don't base anything on "data", you base it on the flawed vegan
> notion
> > that *zero* animal products is THE ideal with regards to health,
> > sustainability, and animal harm. All this blabbering about data is
> just so
> > much hand-waving.
>
> Without data, a guessing game begins.
> I don't play that game.

You either "play a guessing game" or you operate without any rational basis
at all. You have chosen the latter course because that option allows you to
feel good about yourself. .

> > Without data, a guessing game begins.
> > I don't play that game.
>
> You either "play a guessing game" or you operate without any rational
basis
> at all. You have chosen the latter course because that option allows
you to
> feel good about yourself. .

I have made statements based on what little data
we do know. Beyond that who's to say? We don't
know the average number of cds per crop, except
for some fringe foods on each side of the counting
game.


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Skanky the Toronto whore wrote:
> > > Without data, a guessing game begins.
> > > I don't play that game.
> >
> > You either "play a guessing game" or you operate without any
rational
> basis
> > at all. You have chosen the latter course because that option
allows
> you to
> > feel good about yourself. .
>
> I have made statements based on what little data
> we do know.

You don't have ANY data, you stupid whore.

> > > > Without data, a guessing game begins.
> > > > I don't play that game.
> > >
> > > You either "play a guessing game" or you operate without any
> rational
> > basis
> > > at all. You have chosen the latter course because that option
> allows
> > you to
> > > feel good about yourself. .
> >
> > I have made statements based on what little data
> > we do know.
>
> You don't have ANY data, you stupid whore.

That's it. You're not allowed on my
streetcorner any more. No more
discounts for you!

You know, you lose so much credibility
when you insult, that you must have
a very strong urge to do it. One that
you are powerless to resist, since
logically you must know how it makes
you look.

The data we have, since you didn't
read it the first 400 times I wrote it,
is that it takes many more times
the amount of crops to produce
a pound of animal products, than
it does to make a pound of vegan
food.

The conclusion is that IF the
alleged cds are happening, and
they are happening during crop
growth, one must conclude that
animal products cause more
cds than vegan products.


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Skanky the Toronto whore wrote:
> > > > > Without data, a guessing game begins.
> > > > > I don't play that game.
> > > >
> > > > You either "play a guessing game" or you operate without any
> > rational
> > > basis
> > > > at all. You have chosen the latter course because that option
> > allows
> > > you to
> > > > feel good about yourself. .
> > >
> > > I have made statements based on what little data
> > > we do know.
> >
> > You don't have ANY data, you stupid whore.
>
> You know, you lose so much credibility

No, I don't. You have richly earned the insults, stupid whore.

>
> The data we have

You have NO data. You have only your ignorant, biased, agenda-driven
speculation.

You stupid whore.

> > You know, you lose so much credibility
>
> No, I don't. You have richly earned the insults, stupid whore.

Do I detect a bit of misdirected anger towards
your mother, Rudy?

> You stupid whore.

Tou're kind of socially dysfunctional, aren't you?


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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
>> > > > Without data, a guessing game begins.
>> > > > I don't play that game.
>> > >
>> > > You either "play a guessing game" or you operate without any
>> rational
>> > basis
>> > > at all. You have chosen the latter course because that option
>> allows
>> > you to
>> > > feel good about yourself. .
>> >
>> > I have made statements based on what little data
>> > we do know.
>>
>> You don't have ANY data, you stupid whore.
>
> That's it. You're not allowed on my
> streetcorner any more. No more
> discounts for you!
>
> You know, you lose so much credibility
> when you insult, that you must have
> a very strong urge to do it. One that
> you are powerless to resist, since
> logically you must know how it makes
> you look.
>
> The data we have, since you didn't
> read it the first 400 times I wrote it,
> is that it takes many more times
> the amount of crops to produce
> a pound of animal products, than
> it does to make a pound of vegan
> food.
>
> The conclusion is that IF the
> alleged cds are happening, and
> they are happening during crop
> growth, one must conclude that
> animal products cause more
> cds than vegan products.

Only if they are fed crops grown for that purpose. If animals are not fed
crops grown as feed, or if they are only fed by-products and/or waste, then
no cds, or relatively far fewer cds, accrue to them. So once again the valid
conclusion is NOT "vegan food is always and automatically better" as is
incorrectly believed by virtually every vegan in existence.

> > The conclusion is that IF the
> > alleged cds are happening, and
> > they are happening during crop
> > growth, one must conclude that
> > animal products cause more
> > cds than vegan products.
>
> Only if they are fed crops grown for that purpose. If animals are not
fed
> crops grown as feed, or if they are only fed by-products and/or waste,
then
> no cds, or relatively far fewer cds, accrue to them. So once again the
valid
> conclusion is NOT "vegan food is always and automatically better" as
is
> incorrectly believed by virtually every vegan in existence.

Why do you assume that the growing of byproducts
and the waste don't accrue cds? Maybe extra
ones because of the processing involved. How
many mice get trampled in the fields by your pastured
cows? The cows that only eat waste and byproducts,
is that healthy? I feel it's extra unhealthy to eat the
bodies of unwell animals.


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Skanky the Toronto whore wrote:
> > > You know, you lose so much credibility
> >
> > No, I don't. You have richly earned the insults, stupid whore.
>
> Do I detect a bit of

Contempt. You detect not a bit, but a TON, of contempt for a stupid,
immature, snotty Toronto whore who won't or can't grow up.

>
> > You stupid whore.

> Skanky ... whore ... You have richly earned
the insults ... stupid whore ... a TON, of contempt
for a stupid, immature, snotty ... whore ... can't
grow up ... You stupid whore.

....And your point is??? )


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Skanky the Toronto whore wrote:

>
> ...And your point is??? )

That you're a joke. A sick joke.

"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
>> > The only data we have is the number of crops
>> > needed for animal production vs. the number
>> > of crops needed for plant food production.
>> ====================
>> No, you don't have such information killer. You actually have NO
>> information, as you have done, lets see, oh yeah, exactly zero
> research.
>
> If we base cds on crop usage, vegans
> win hands down.
==================
LOL Yet another ignorant claim that you have failed to back up, killer. As
a vegan, you use far more grain than I do, hypocrite. Afterall, the ratio
of grain to your fake meats are quite high, killer.


>
>> > That's all we have numbers for, with a few
>> > exceptions such as the outrageous amount
>> > of cds in shrimp fishing.
>> ==============
>> Why are you suddenly excluding rice, hypocrite?
>
>
> I was giving a much worse example. Why
> would I talk about rice, when I'm giving a
> much worse example.
====================
Again, a claim you have failed to substantiate.


>
> --
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> http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/
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> Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button.
> Irony, hypocrisy, stupidity and ignorance on display. Read all the lys
> inside...
>
>

In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > "Ron" > wrote
> > >
> > > >> > Rudy wants to be a shit disturber as they say. I am allowing him to
> do
> > > >> > so. Anyone having difficulties can take the issue up with him. Rudy
> > > >> > wants the posts to arrive there, at least it seems that way, so who
> am
> > > >> > I
> > > >> > to interfere? Why would I inhibit his speech by determining for him
> > > >> > where his words went?
> > > >>
> > > >> Because it would be consistent with your tendency to try to control
> what
> > > >> others say and to whom.
> > > >
> > > > Grow up, Dutch. My ability to control what anyone says here or
> anywhere
> > > > else is non-existent -- unless I've taken over your body and control
> > > > your thoughts and actions.
> > >
> > > Note I said "try".
> >
> > Note I said, "grow up".
>
> I ignored that, since it doesn't apply.
>
> > You have power and control over your own
> > thinking, lips, tongue and other structures necessary to affect what you
> > "say" and how you say it.
>
> Yes, that affects your attempts to control others how exactly?
>
> Thanks, but I decline responsibility for your
> > choices.
>
> I never asked you to accept responsibility for my choices.

Very well. Please explain how i could possibly "try" to control what
anyone says here.

> > If we base cds on crop usage, vegans
> > win hands down.
> ==================
> LOL Yet another ignorant claim that you have failed to back up,
killer. As
> a vegan, you use far more grain than I do, hypocrite. Afterall, the
ratio
> of grain to your fake meats are quite high, killer.

The ratio is huge of grain to finished pound of
poultry, pork, or beef compared to the grains a
vegan uses in excess to what the meatarian eats
grainwise.

You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
items do you eat?

> >> > That's all we have numbers for, with a few
> >> > exceptions such as the outrageous amount
> >> > of cds in shrimp fishing.
> >> ==============
> >> Why are you suddenly excluding rice, hypocrite?

Whose excluding rice? Do you have
data on how many cds per pound of rice?




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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
>> > If we base cds on crop usage, vegans
>> > win hands down.
>> ==================
>> LOL Yet another ignorant claim that you have failed to back up,
> killer. As
>> a vegan, you use far more grain than I do, hypocrite. Afterall, the
> ratio
>> of grain to your fake meats are quite high, killer.
>
> The ratio is huge of grain to finished pound of
> poultry, pork, or beef compared to the grains a
> vegan uses in excess to what the meatarian eats
> grainwise.
=================
No, you're lying again.


>
> You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
> gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
> items do you eat?
==================
LOL Question from the fool that never answers any. What a hoot, killer.


>
>> >> > That's all we have numbers for, with a few
>> >> > exceptions such as the outrageous amount
>> >> > of cds in shrimp fishing.
>> >> ==============
>> >> Why are you suddenly excluding rice, hypocrite?
>
> Whose excluding rice? Do you have
> data on how many cds per pound of rice?
====================
Many more than from the beef I eat. Too bad you're too lazy, ignorant and
selfish to see the truth, hypocrite.

>
>
>
>
> --
> SN
> http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/
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> Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button.
> Irony, hypocrisy, stupidity and ignorance on display. Read all the lys
> inside...
>

> > The ratio is huge of grain to finished pound of
> > poultry, pork, or beef compared to the grains a
> > vegan uses in excess to what the meatarian eats
> > grainwise.
> =================
> No, you're lying again.

Even your pal Jay/Rudy admitted some of
the high feed to end product ratios. The
lowest was poultry at about 3:1. For other
animals the ratio was much higher. I didn't
save that post, but it was interesting.

> > You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
> > gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
> > items do you eat?
> ==================
> LOL Question from the fool that never answers any. What a hoot,
killer.

You'll only talk about your game meat. You never
mention what other meats you eat and you never
mention what grains and produce you eat. You
never mention what milk, cheese or eggs you
eat. Interesting. If I didn't know better, I'd say
you just ate meat only.




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Skanky the Toronto whore/marginal wrote:
> > > The ratio is huge of grain to finished pound of
> > > poultry, pork, or beef compared to the grains a
> > > vegan uses in excess to what the meatarian eats
> > > grainwise.
> > =================
> > No, you're lying again.
>
> Even your pal Jay/Rudy admitted some of
> the high feed to end product ratios.

I did? When was that, Skanky?


> The lowest was poultry at about 3:1. For other
> animals the ratio was much higher. I didn't
> save that post,

You sure didn't - it never existed.

> but it was interesting.
>
> > > You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
> > > gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
> > > items do you eat?
> > ==================
> > LOL Question from the fool that never answers any. What a hoot,
> killer.
>
> You'll only talk about your game meat.

Right. It's enough to queer your entire result.

> > Even your pal Jay/Rudy admitted some of
> > the high feed to end product ratios.
>
> I did? When was that, Skanky?

Back when you were posting as Jay.
Where you got the info from, I don't
know. Maybe someone else reading
this can repost it if it's saved.

> > The lowest was poultry at about 3:1. For other
> > animals the ratio was much higher. I didn't
> > save that post,
>
> You sure didn't - it never existed.

Yeah it did. This is the first time you're
denying it though.

> > > > You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
> > > > gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
> > > > items do you eat?
> > > ==================
> > > LOL Question from the fool that never answers any. What a hoot,
> > killer.
> >
> > You'll only talk about your game meat.
>
> Right. It's enough to queer your entire result.

You only want to ask questions, not answer
them.


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Skanky the Toronto whore/marginal wrote:
> > > Even your pal Jay/Rudy admitted some of
> > > the high feed to end product ratios.
> >
> > I did? When was that, Skanky?
>
> Back when you were posting as Jay.

I never posted any such thing. I didn't post any numbers at all, ever.

> Where you got the info from, I don't
> know. Maybe someone else reading
> this can repost it if it's saved.
>
> > > The lowest was poultry at about 3:1. For other
> > > animals the ratio was much higher. I didn't
> > > save that post,
> >
> > You sure didn't - it never existed.
>
> Yeah it did.

No, it didn't. You have me confused with someone else (excessive pot
use will do that.)

>
> > > > > You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
> > > > > gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
> > > > > items do you eat?
> > > > ==================
> > > > LOL Question from the fool that never answers any. What a
hoot,
> > > killer.
> > >
> > > You'll only talk about your game meat.
> >
> > Right. It's enough to queer your entire result.
>
> You only want to ask questions, not answer
> them.

You haven't asked any.

You're the one making wild and unsubstantiated claims based on your
diet. It's appropriate that I ask you questions to demonstrate you
don't know what you're talking about and are simply making it all up as
you go along.

"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
>> > The ratio is huge of grain to finished pound of
>> > poultry, pork, or beef compared to the grains a
>> > vegan uses in excess to what the meatarian eats
>> > grainwise.
>> =================
>> No, you're lying again.
>
> Even your pal Jay/Rudy admitted some of
> the high feed to end product ratios. The
> lowest was poultry at about 3:1. For other
> animals the ratio was much higher. I didn't
> save that post, but it was interesting.
=======================
So what? The point is that NO grains need to be fed to the animals I eat.
Your focus on food that neither you nor I eat makes your religious agenda
look extremely foolish, killer. But then, being an ignorant fool comes easy
for you, doesn't it, hypocrite?


>
>> > You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
>> > gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
>> > items do you eat?
>> ==================
>> LOL Question from the fool that never answers any. What a hoot,
> killer.
>
> You'll only talk about your game meat.
============================
No fool. I don't talk about game meat that much at all. That's just
another of your strawmen. An attempt by you to avoid the serious killing
you do for your selfish convenience and entertainment.

You never
> mention what other meats you eat and you never
> mention what grains and produce you eat.
==============================
What an idiot. I have posted to YOU what I eat. And newsflash, game is not
a very big part of it at all. Kinda hard to be when I don't hunt, you
ignorant fool.

You
> never mention what milk, cheese or eggs you
> eat. Interesting. If I didn't know better, I'd say
> you just ate meat only.
=====================
That's fuuny, coming from the lying cesspool of ignorance that has never
posted anything to back her incredibly ignorant spews....

>
>
>
>
> --
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> http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/
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> Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button.
> Irony, hypocrisy, stupidity and ignorance on display. Read all the lys
> inside...
>

"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
>> > Even your pal Jay/Rudy admitted some of
>> > the high feed to end product ratios.
>>
>> I did? When was that, Skanky?
>
> Back when you were posting as Jay.
> Where you got the info from, I don't
> know. Maybe someone else reading
> this can repost it if it's saved.
>
>> > The lowest was poultry at about 3:1. For other
>> > animals the ratio was much higher. I didn't
>> > save that post,
>>
>> You sure didn't - it never existed.
>
> Yeah it did. This is the first time you're
> denying it though.
>
>> > > > You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
>> > > > gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
>> > > > items do you eat?
>> > > ==================
>> > > LOL Question from the fool that never answers any. What a hoot,
>> > killer.
>> >
>> > You'll only talk about your game meat.
>>
>> Right. It's enough to queer your entire result.
>
> You only want to ask questions, not answer
> them.
======================
ROTFLMAO This from the queen of never answering questions!!! You really
are this stupid, aren't you, killer?


>
>
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> SN
> http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/
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> Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button.
> Irony, hypocrisy, stupidity and ignorance on display. Read all the lys
> inside...
>
>

> > > I did? When was that, Skanky?
> >
> > Back when you were posting as Jay.
>
> I never posted any such thing. I didn't post any numbers at all,
ever.

Well, I'm pretty sure it was you. If I find
out it wasn't, you'll get a warm fuzzy
apology from me. Feel better?

> > Where you got the info from, I don't
> > know. Maybe someone else reading
> > this can repost it if it's saved.
> >
> > > > The lowest was poultry at about 3:1. For other
> > > > animals the ratio was much higher. I didn't
> > > > save that post,
> > >
> > > You sure didn't - it never existed.
> >
> > Yeah it did.
>
> No, it didn't. You have me confused with someone else (excessive pot
> use will do that.)

Well, let's see if anyone else remembers.

> > > > > > You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
> > > > > > gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
> > > > > > items do you eat?
> > > > > ==================
> > > > > LOL Question from the fool that never answers any. What a
> hoot,
> > > > killer.
> > > >
> > > > You'll only talk about your game meat.
> > >
> > > Right. It's enough to queer your entire result.
> >
> > You only want to ask questions, not answer
> > them.
>
> You haven't asked any.

Look up to where it says "You eat grains..."

> You're the one making wild and unsubstantiated claims based on your
> diet. It's appropriate that I ask you questions to demonstrate you
> don't know what you're talking about and are simply making it all up
as
> you go along.

Like I've said a zillion times now, you don't
have to believe me. Do your own research
if it's important for you to analyze anything.


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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
>> > > I did? When was that, Skanky?

snippage...

> Like I've said a zillion times now, you don't
> have to believe me. Do your own research
> if it's important for you to analyze anything.
====================
LOL Everybody here BUT you has researched, killer. Too bad you're too
much a religious fanatic to understand how ignorant you really are...


>
>
> --
> SN
> http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/
> A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites.
> Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button.
> Irony, hypocrisy, stupidity and ignorance on display. Read all the lys
> inside...
>

Skanky the Toronto whore/marginal wrote:
> > > > I did? When was that, Skanky?
> > >
> > > Back when you were posting as Jay.
> >
> > I never posted any such thing. I didn't post any numbers at all,
ever.
>
> Well, I'm pretty sure it was you.

It wasn't. You've overdone the reefer again.


>
> > > Where you got the info from, I don't
> > > know. Maybe someone else reading
> > > this can repost it if it's saved.
> > >
> > > > > The lowest was poultry at about 3:1. For other
> > > > > animals the ratio was much higher. I didn't
> > > > > save that post,
> > > >
> > > > You sure didn't - it never existed.
> > >
> > > Yeah it did.
> >
> > No, it didn't. You have me confused with someone else (excessive
pot
> > use will do that.)
>
> Well, let's see if anyone else remembers.

I know who it was.


> > > > > > > You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
> > > > > > > gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
> > > > > > > items do you eat?
> > > > > > ==================
> > > > > > LOL Question from the fool that never answers any. What a
> > hoot,
> > > > > killer.
> > > > >
> > > > > You'll only talk about your game meat.
> > > >
> > > > Right. It's enough to queer your entire result.
> > >
> > > You only want to ask questions, not answer
> > > them.
> >
> > You haven't asked any.
>
> Look up to where it says "You eat grains..."

That wasn't asked of me.

>
> > You're the one making wild and unsubstantiated claims based on your
> > diet. It's appropriate that I ask you questions to demonstrate you
> > don't know what you're talking about and are simply making it all
up
> > as you go along.
>
> Like I've said a zillion times now, you don't
> have to believe me.

No one in his right mind would. You're a pothead marginal, you're
incoherent, and you're a liar.

> Do your own research
> if it's important for you to analyze anything.

Heh heh heh...

> > Well, let's see if anyone else remembers.
>
> I know who it was.

Who? And thanks for acknowledging that
the list was indeed posted.

> > > > > > > > You eat grains too, don't you? Everything from
> > > > > > > > gravies made with flour to breads, what grain
> > > > > > > > items do you eat?
> > > > > > > ==================
> > > > > > > LOL Question from the fool that never answers any. What
a
> > > hoot,
> > > > > > killer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You'll only talk about your game meat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right. It's enough to queer your entire result.
> > > >
> > > > You only want to ask questions, not answer
> > > > them.
> > >
> > > You haven't asked any.
> >
> > Look up to where it says "You eat grains..."
>
> That wasn't asked of me.

No, it was asked of Rick.




--
SN
http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/
A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites.
Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button.

"Ron" > wrote

>> Thanks, but I decline responsibility for your
>> > choices.
>>
>> I never asked you to accept responsibility for my choices.
>
> Very well. Please explain how i could possibly "try" to control what
> anyone says here.

By arguing that they are misguided and/or out of place by trying to change
the opinions of a vegan.

"Ron" > wrote

>> Your efforts to become *totally* irrelevant are succeeding.
>
> I find taking a step back to witness the exchange between you and SN
> very enlightening. Please continue.

If you have received any enlightenment from it you haven't demonstrated any
of it.

> To be irrelevant I would need to be
> a vegetarian, an addict or something of the sort.

That might make you relevant, as it is you are simply sniping ineffectually
from the sidelines. The only thing interesting about you is how utterly
foundationless your position appears to be.

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Dutch" >
> wrote:
>
>> "JohnH" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:27:04 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"JohnH" > wrote
>> >>
>> >>> Rudy, could you be so kind as to remove rec.boats from the list of
>> >>> sites you're cross posting this thread to?
>> >>>
>> >>> We'd appreciate it, for sure.
>> >>>
>> >>> John H
>> >>
>> >>John
>> >>
>> >>I understand your frustration, but can't you simply kill the thread in
>> >>your
>> >>newsreader?
>> >>
>> >>The problem with your suggestion is that you have presumed to speak for
>> >>every single person reading rec.boats, and I am sure that some of them
>> >>have
>> >>a few interests other than boats.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Yes, of course you're probably right. I'm sure there is at least one
>> > person in rec.boats who wants to know which of you, Rudy, and Ron are
>> > queer for the other.
>>
>> There you go...
>
> Anything from the eating disordered is suspect. Denial is a terrible
> symptom of any disorder. "Hi, I'm Dutch. I have an eating disorder."

Did I hurt your iddy-biddy feelings somewhere, is that it? Does he need a
big hug?

In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote
>
> >> Thanks, but I decline responsibility for your
> >> > choices.
> >>
> >> I never asked you to accept responsibility for my choices.
> >
> > Very well. Please explain how i could possibly "try" to control what
> > anyone says here.
>
> By arguing that they are misguided and/or out of place by trying to change
> the opinions of a vegan.

Hmm. If we follow this reasoning then, arguing with an anorexic or drug
addict would be an attempt at control. Unfortunately, it has been you
who has been arguing to change the opinion of a vegan, namely SN.

If the act of giving one's opinion, constructing an argument and
challenging the argument of an another constitutes an effort to control,
I do have some questions. You are then likely to view this as an attempt
by me to control you, so I will pass on the opportunity.

In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote
>
> >> Your efforts to become *totally* irrelevant are succeeding.
> >
> > I find taking a step back to witness the exchange between you and SN
> > very enlightening. Please continue.
>
> If you have received any enlightenment from it you haven't demonstrated any
> of it.
>
> > To be irrelevant I would need to be
> > a vegetarian, an addict or something of the sort.
>
> That might make you relevant, as it is you are simply sniping ineffectually
> from the sidelines. The only thing interesting about you is how utterly
> foundationless your position appears to be.

Interesting. The reliance on the medical community to support your
position does pose some problems. Like any free market system, there is
no agenda on the part of the physician or counselor to help people to
continue in their self-destructive behaviour. A doctor without sick
people has no livelihood. A counselor with no addicts has no source of
income or ability to feel good about themselves. An addict with no
counselor has no one to feel sorry for them. An addict with no counselor
has no one to lie to and manipulate.

In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "JohnH" > wrote in message
> >> news > >> > On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:27:04 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>"JohnH" > wrote
> >> >>
> >> >>> Rudy, could you be so kind as to remove rec.boats from the list of
> >> >>> sites you're cross posting this thread to?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We'd appreciate it, for sure.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> John H
> >> >>
> >> >>John
> >> >>
> >> >>I understand your frustration, but can't you simply kill the thread in
> >> >>your
> >> >>newsreader?
> >> >>
> >> >>The problem with your suggestion is that you have presumed to speak for
> >> >>every single person reading rec.boats, and I am sure that some of them
> >> >>have
> >> >>a few interests other than boats.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > Yes, of course you're probably right. I'm sure there is at least one
> >> > person in rec.boats who wants to know which of you, Rudy, and Ron are
> >> > queer for the other.
> >>
> >> There you go...
> >
> > Anything from the eating disordered is suspect. Denial is a terrible
> > symptom of any disorder. "Hi, I'm Dutch. I have an eating disorder."
>
> Did I hurt your iddy-biddy feelings somewhere, is that it? Does he need a
> big hug?

How could *you* hurt *my* feelings? I think you overestimate your impact
on me.

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Dutch" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Ron" > wrote
>>
>> >> Thanks, but I decline responsibility for your
>> >> > choices.
>> >>
>> >> I never asked you to accept responsibility for my choices.
>> >
>> > Very well. Please explain how i could possibly "try" to control what
>> > anyone says here.
>>
>> By arguing that they are misguided and/or out of place by trying to
>> change
>> the opinions of a vegan.
>
> Hmm. If we follow this reasoning then, arguing with an anorexic or drug
> addict would be an attempt at control. Unfortunately, it has been you
> who has been arguing to change the opinion of a vegan, namely SN.

And you have been attempting to intervene, as if it had anything to do with
you.

> If the act of giving one's opinion, constructing an argument and
> challenging the argument of an another constitutes an effort to control,
> I do have some questions. You are then likely to view this as an attempt
> by me to control you, so I will pass on the opportunity.

My comments to SN are none of your business, you are attempting to stifle a
debate between two adults. You offer no material constructive input, simply
naysaying from the sidelines.

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Dutch" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Ron" > wrote
>>
>> >> Your efforts to become *totally* irrelevant are succeeding.
>> >
>> > I find taking a step back to witness the exchange between you and SN
>> > very enlightening. Please continue.
>>
>> If you have received any enlightenment from it you haven't demonstrated
>> any
>> of it.
>>
>> > To be irrelevant I would need to be
>> > a vegetarian, an addict or something of the sort.
>>
>> That might make you relevant, as it is you are simply sniping
>> ineffectually
>> from the sidelines. The only thing interesting about you is how utterly
>> foundationless your position appears to be.
>
> Interesting.

Not.

> The reliance on the medical community to support your
> position does pose some problems. Like any free market system, there is
> no agenda on the part of the physician or counselor to help people to
> continue in their self-destructive behaviour. A doctor without sick
> people has no livelihood. A counselor with no addicts has no source of
> income or ability to feel good about themselves. An addict with no
> counselor has no one to feel sorry for them. An addict with no counselor
> has no one to lie to and manipulate.

You're a ****ing idiot.

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Dutch" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Ron" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >, "Dutch" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "JohnH" > wrote in message
>> >> news >> >> > On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:27:04 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"JohnH" > wrote
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Rudy, could you be so kind as to remove rec.boats from the list of
>> >> >>> sites you're cross posting this thread to?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> We'd appreciate it, for sure.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> John H
>> >> >>
>> >> >>John
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I understand your frustration, but can't you simply kill the thread
>> >> >>in
>> >> >>your
>> >> >>newsreader?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>The problem with your suggestion is that you have presumed to speak
>> >> >>for
>> >> >>every single person reading rec.boats, and I am sure that some of
>> >> >>them
>> >> >>have
>> >> >>a few interests other than boats.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> > Yes, of course you're probably right. I'm sure there is at least one
>> >> > person in rec.boats who wants to know which of you, Rudy, and Ron
>> >> > are
>> >> > queer for the other.
>> >>
>> >> There you go...
>> >
>> > Anything from the eating disordered is suspect. Denial is a terrible
>> > symptom of any disorder. "Hi, I'm Dutch. I have an eating disorder."
>>
>> Did I hurt your iddy-biddy feelings somewhere, is that it? Does he need a
>> big hug?
>
> How could *you* hurt *my* feelings? I think you overestimate your impact
> on me.

My estimate is based on clear evidence, your obsessive dogging of my tracks
attempting to find holes in my arguments. You have been trying for a couple
of weeks, ever since I rebuffed your first attempts convince me I was
bullying SN.