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Scented Nectar wrote:
>>>I should correct my wording: >>>Most people see continuing to stay alive as a need. >> >>Your correction is still wrong. It's a want, not a need. >> >> >>>You can call it a want if you like. >> >>It IS a want. There is no such thing as "need" the way you mean the >>word. > > > It's just a word, calm down. You know > full well that people use the word need > to describe what you call instrumental > needs. No, they use it as some kind of absolute to distinguish from wants. They think "needs" take some kind of precedence over wants, but as we have seen, that's not so - people trade so-called "needs" for so-called "mere wants". That word "mere" is always understood, whether it's stated or not. |
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illiterate, mouthy Skanky wrote:
>>>No one's made the conclusion that it's lack of >>>need means immorality. >> >>Yes, that is precisely the basis for "veganism" for a >>lot of people. It's all over the Google archives. >> >> >>>The immorality is >>>seen instead in the brutal conditions and the >>>killing of the animals. >> >>But when you feel you "need" something, you don't >>exhibit any consideration for brutality or killing. >>Animals are killed in the course of producing the food >>you eat, and because you claim you "need" food, you >>simply dismiss any moral consideration of those animals. > > I, like many others are in a position of forced A reasonably educated person would write something like "I am, like many others, in a position..." or "I and many others are..." Your verb should agree with your noun. > complicity. You are not in any position of "forced complicity," mor is anyone else. > To be healthy, I need a wide > variety of vegetarian foods. Wrong! Vegetarian foods are not a requirement for good health. They are optional. There are other factors which affect health as much as or more than diet alone: exercise, smoking, stress, etc. Your concerns about diet and health are overshadowed by your sedentary lifestyle and your long-term addiction to smoking marijuana. You have much bigger fish to fry if you want to be healthy. > If more veganic No such thing. Stop with the fantasy world bullshit, Skanky. > products were available, I'd switch to them. No, you wouldn't. You already have such options available to you now, but you refuse to grow your own food or to pay a farmer to grow in a manner which reflects your peculiar hyper-sensitivities. > Unfortunately there's almost none around. You mean fortunately, because it would cost you dearly at the market if it were abundant. > I won't accept moral responsibility We know. Lord, do we know. |
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> A reasonably educated person would write something like "I am, like
many > others, in a position..." or "I and many others are..." Your verb should > agree with your noun. It's nice to know you're here to protect me from the evils of bad grammar. -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites. Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button. |
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> A reasonably educated person would write something like "I am, like
many > others, in a position..." or "I and many others are..." Your verb should > agree with your noun. It's nice to know you're here to protect me from the evils of bad grammar. -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites. Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button. |
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Scented Nectar wrote:
>>>According to you Rudy, there is no need >>>to live. >> >>That's correct, and I'm right: you WANT to live. >>That's a legitimate want, but it doesn't become a need. > > According to most living people, they need to > live. No, they *want* to live. They *desire* to live. The world will go on just fine without them. > It's more than a want, A burning desire, perhaps. But it's still a want, not a need. |
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Scented Nectar wrote:
>>>According to you Rudy, there is no need >>>to live. >> >>That's correct, and I'm right: you WANT to live. >>That's a legitimate want, but it doesn't become a need. > > According to most living people, they need to > live. No, they *want* to live. They *desire* to live. The world will go on just fine without them. > It's more than a want, A burning desire, perhaps. But it's still a want, not a need. |
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Scented Nectar wrote:
>>A reasonably educated person would write something like "I am, like > > many > >>others, in a position..." or "I and many others are..." Your verb > > should > >>agree with your noun. > > > It's nice to know you're here to protect me from > the evils of bad grammar. You are an illiterate twit. |
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> > It's nice to know you're here to protect me from
> > the evils of bad grammar. > > You are an illiterate twit. Literate enough to see you for the insulting troll that you are. -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites. Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button. |
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Scented Nectar wrote:
>>A reasonably educated person would write something like "I am, like >>many others, in a position..." or "I and many others are..." Your verb >>should agree with your noun. > > It's nice to know you're here to protect me from > the evils of bad grammar. Protect you? Afraid I'm much to late to do that. You're infected and spreading it, just like the HIV. |
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In the real world, regional grammar is quite effective in expressing the
point of the work, and often has more depth and soul, which I prefer to the coldness of a martinet.... "Rudy Canoza" > wrote in message ink.net... > Scented Nectar wrote: > >>>A reasonably educated person would write something like "I am, like >> >> many >> >>>others, in a position..." or "I and many others are..." Your verb >> >> should >> >>>agree with your noun. >> >> >> It's nice to know you're here to protect me from >> the evils of bad grammar. > > You are an illiterate twit. > |
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Jan Hall wrote:
> In the real world, regional grammar is quite effective in expressing the > point of the work, and often has more depth and soul, which I prefer to the > coldness of a martinet.... You are making excuses for slovenliness and illiteracy. |
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"Jan Hall" > wrote > In the real world, regional grammar is quite effective in expressing the > point of the work, and often has more depth and soul, which I prefer to the > coldness of a martinet.... She lives in Toronto, Canada, there is no "regional grammar" issue at work. Bad grammar in and of itself never improves the effectiveness of speech. A speaker may be effective *in spite of* poor grammar, this is not the case here. I propose that you feel the urge to defend this person for other reasons than a penchant for bad grammar. > > "Rudy Canoza" > wrote in message > ink.net... > > Scented Nectar wrote: > > > >>>A reasonably educated person would write something like "I am, like > >> > >> many > >> > >>>others, in a position..." or "I and many others are..." Your verb > >> > >> should > >> > >>>agree with your noun. > >> > >> > >> It's nice to know you're here to protect me from > >> the evils of bad grammar. > > > > You are an illiterate twit. > > > > |
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> > In the real world, regional grammar is quite effective in expressing
the > > point of the work, and often has more depth and soul, which I prefer to > the > > coldness of a martinet.... > > She lives in Toronto, Canada, there is no "regional grammar" issue at work. > Bad grammar in and of itself never improves the effectiveness of speech. A > speaker may be effective *in spite of* poor grammar, this is not the case > here. I propose that you feel the urge to defend this person for other > reasons than a penchant for bad grammar. Aern't yuo gald taht I dind't spel evrythnig worng two, Dutsh? -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites. Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button. |
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"Scented Nectar" > wrote > > > In the real world, regional grammar is quite effective in expressing > the > > > point of the work, and often has more depth and soul, which I prefer > to > > the > > > coldness of a martinet.... > > > > She lives in Toronto, Canada, there is no "regional grammar" issue at > work. > > Bad grammar in and of itself never improves the effectiveness of > speech. A > > speaker may be effective *in spite of* poor grammar, this is not the > case > > here. I propose that you feel the urge to defend this person for other > > reasons than a penchant for bad grammar. > > Aern't yuo gald taht I dind't spel evrythnig worng two, Dutsh? It doesn't matter a whole lot to me. If you demonstrate poor speech patterns however, it might indicate a general trend in your whole thinking process. |
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no.you are attempting weakly to get me to believe that I am making excuses
for slovenliness and illiteracy. you're not even in the ballpark, fella. "Rudy Canoza" > wrote in message k.net... > Jan Hall wrote: >> In the real world, regional grammar is quite effective in expressing the >> point of the work, and often has more depth and soul, which I prefer to >> the coldness of a martinet.... > > You are making excuses for slovenliness and illiteracy. |
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say there, bubba. I set my own boundaries. however, you gave an amusing
performance. try not to be so completely anal. "Dutch" > wrote in message ... > > "Jan Hall" > wrote >> In the real world, regional grammar is quite effective in expressing the >> point of the work, and often has more depth and soul, which I prefer to > the >> coldness of a martinet.... > > She lives in Toronto, Canada, there is no "regional grammar" issue at > work. > Bad grammar in and of itself never improves the effectiveness of speech. A > speaker may be effective *in spite of* poor grammar, this is not the case > here. I propose that you feel the urge to defend this person for other > reasons than a penchant for bad grammar. > >> >> "Rudy Canoza" > wrote in message >> ink.net... >> > Scented Nectar wrote: >> > >> >>>A reasonably educated person would write something like "I am, like >> >> >> >> many >> >> >> >>>others, in a position..." or "I and many others are..." Your verb >> >> >> >> should >> >> >> >>>agree with your noun. >> >> >> >> >> >> It's nice to know you're here to protect me from >> >> the evils of bad grammar. >> > >> > You are an illiterate twit. >> > >> >> > > |
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"Jan Hall" > wrote > say there, bubba. I set my own boundaries. however, you gave an amusing > performance. try not to be so completely anal. I see that you resort to name calling very quickly. Do you consider than an adequate substitute for reasonable discussion and argument? > "Dutch" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Jan Hall" > wrote >>> In the real world, regional grammar is quite effective in expressing the >>> point of the work, and often has more depth and soul, which I prefer to >> the >>> coldness of a martinet.... >> >> She lives in Toronto, Canada, there is no "regional grammar" issue at >> work. >> Bad grammar in and of itself never improves the effectiveness of speech. >> A >> speaker may be effective *in spite of* poor grammar, this is not the case >> here. I propose that you feel the urge to defend this person for other >> reasons than a penchant for bad grammar. >> >>> >>> "Rudy Canoza" > wrote in message >>> ink.net... >>> > Scented Nectar wrote: >>> > >>> >>>A reasonably educated person would write something like "I am, like >>> >> >>> >> many >>> >> >>> >>>others, in a position..." or "I and many others are..." Your verb >>> >> >>> >> should >>> >> >>> >>>agree with your noun. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> It's nice to know you're here to protect me from >>> >> the evils of bad grammar. >>> > >>> > You are an illiterate twit. >>> > >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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"Jan Hall" > wrote > no.you are attempting weakly to get me to believe that I am making excuses > for slovenliness and illiteracy you're not even in the ballpark, fella. He's not in the ballpark, he hit a home run. > "Rudy Canoza" > wrote in message > k.net... >> Jan Hall wrote: >>> In the real world, regional grammar is quite effective in expressing the >>> point of the work, and often has more depth and soul, which I prefer to >>> the coldness of a martinet.... >> >> You are making excuses for slovenliness and illiteracy. > > |
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Jan Hall wrote:
> no. Yes. > you are attempting weakly I'm not "attempting" anything. I have done it. > to get me to believe I don't give a **** what you believe. > that I am making excuses > for slovenliness and illiteracy. You are. That's exactly what you did. You're a lightweight relativist, an apologist for mediocrity. > > "Rudy Canoza" > wrote in message > k.net... > >>Jan Hall wrote: >> >>>In the real world, regional grammar is quite effective in expressing the >>>point of the work, and often has more depth and soul, which I prefer to >>>the coldness of a martinet.... >> >>You are making excuses for slovenliness and illiteracy. > > > |
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