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Scented Nectar wrote:
>> I looked at her website and found out she's a really heavy potsmoker.
>>Her fingers were probably already twitching.

>
> http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/nati...sis041202.html
>
> Oh, now you're gonna see reefer madness
> in all my posts.


I already have. Your neurons just don't fire.

> I'm glad you found a nice
> little answer to things, and let's keep on topic.


It's on topic, jellohead. It helps those of us engaging you in
discussion understand why you come up with stupid notions and why your
"logic" is so screwy.

> Discuss the high quality hemp seed oil (non-
> intoxicating) that has omegas 3,6,and 9.
> There. Now we're on topic again.
> Hempseed meal is quite nourishing.


You smoke pot rather than eat the industrial non-THC seed meal; smoking
over time it is physcially and mentally unhealthy. Stop pretending that
there's any virtue in your endorsement of marijuana; your endorsements
of "all the uses" of weed are nothing but an attempt to gain approval
for your intoxication. Such advocacy is as phony as you are.
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Scented Nectar wrote:
>>>>>>PS: Your cat is cute, but it looks like you have cankles
>>>>>
>>>>>Is that a made up word for 'baggy socks around
>>>>>the ankles'? That's my best guess as the online
>>>>>Websters doesn't recognise that word.
>>>>
>>>>calves + ankles = cankles
>>>>
>>>>Condition of fat, stubby legs commonly found on aging women.
>>>
>>>Actually, that pic was taken when I was a bit
>>>underweight. Tell me superman, how did
>>>you see cankles under the baggy socks?

>>
>>So you're blaming your cankles on baggy socks? I've heard that one
>>before.

>
> You know what, usual? I hope you picture
> me as cankley as you like, even though a sock
> is the only thing that shows in that photo. I
> know what I really look like and I like
> myself and my looks.


Sounds like your daily affirmation from Stuart Smiley: "I am very
attractive, very intelligent, humourous, and darn it, I like me!"
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"rick etter" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "Scented Nectar" dishonestly snipped out portions again, that she

cannot
> refute...
> typical vegan.....


Yeah, we're all evil, and out to get you....boo!

> > wrote in message
> ...
> >> > Don't forget, I may be not 100% vegan yet, but I'm getting there.
> >> ==================
> >> LOL Not as long as you are posting your ignorance to usenet you're

> > not.
> >> Again, veganism is a lifestyle, NOT a diet.

> >
> > You moron, it is first and foremost a diet.

> ==================
> No, it is not, fool.


To me it means a dietary choice, regardless of your
attempt to say all vegan share a lifestyle. That's not
something all vegans do, just some.

> >> > All that hay also isn't just for milk. It's for both milk and

meat,
> >> > but I think we both know that. How many cds does a hay reaping
> >> > machine cause? And since you claim animals are on a 3 or 4 to 1
> >> > ratio, then it takes 3 or 4 times the crop pounds to produce 1

pound
> >> > of meat. That's 3 to 4 times the cds when comparing meat and
> >> > vegan food production.
> >> ====================
> >> Show your data, killer. prove it...

> >
> > Try actually READING the above. The proof is there.

> =====================
> ROTFLMAO Just saying it doesn't make it true you ignorant fool. Show

your
> proof. You cannot, because all you have is a simple rule for your

simple
> mind, 'eat no meat.'


Hmmm, you sure about that? My 3 or 4 to 1 ratio is
based on info Usual (I think) posted to refute my original
belief that the ratio was 10 or 16 to 1. Even granting that
the new ratio is true, there are the most cds from meat
production. Except of course for that cow of yours that
grazes and doesn't ever eat hay or crops! But I guess
that's balanced out by a vegan's personal organic
garden.




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Ricky, Ricky! You know, I think I'll answer your
questions easier if you can leave the
unnecessary insults out. There's no reason
for you to be as upset and angry as you seem.

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"rick etter" > wrote in message
ink.net...

> >> Care to try again, killer? ... killer.... killer ...

spew your ignorance... killer ... Remember again
about learning something before displaying
your ignorance ... hypocrite... killer.... You are
constantly making staements your brain
cannot back up....Ignorant dolt.... Ever more
irony and hypocrisy, but now add complete ignorance...
etc, etc, etc.


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"usual suspect" > wrote in message
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> Scented Nectar wrote:
> >>>>>>PS: Your cat is cute, but it looks like you have cankles
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Is that a made up word for 'baggy socks around
> >>>>>the ankles'? That's my best guess as the online
> >>>>>Websters doesn't recognise that word.
> >>>>
> >>>>calves + ankles = cankles
> >>>>
> >>>>Condition of fat, stubby legs commonly found on aging women.
> >>>
> >>>Actually, that pic was taken when I was a bit
> >>>underweight. Tell me superman, how did
> >>>you see cankles under the baggy socks?
> >>
> >>So you're blaming your cankles on baggy socks? I've heard that one
> >>before.

> >
> > You know what, usual? I hope you picture
> > me as cankley as you like, even though a sock
> > is the only thing that shows in that photo. I
> > know what I really look like and I like
> > myself and my looks.

>
> Sounds like your daily affirmation from Stuart Smiley: "I am very
> attractive, very intelligent, humourous, and darn it, I like me!"


So shoot me for actually liking myself. Don't get
me wrong here. My world is not all warm and fuzzy.
There's things I don't like. I'm just not one of them.

SN
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A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.




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> >> > I already have, using your friend Usual's data
> >> > My conclusion (which gives your side benefit
> >> > of the doubt) was that meat causes 3 to 4 times
> >> > the cds as vegan crops
> >> =======================
> >> No, you haven't. Because, as you like to say, you're comparing

apples
> > and
> >> oranges. Since you act like all meat is raised the same, then

we'll
> > just
> >> say that all veggioes are raised the same, and are doused with

> > chemicals
> >> from seed to store. Sounds about right to you, right?

> >
> > Sure. But that doesn't invalidate the 3 or 4 to 1 ratio.

> ======================
> It was never validated to begin with, killer. That's the lys and

delusions
> you hang onto. The fact some meat uses it, doesn't mean all meat

does.
> Too bad for you that the truth gets in the way, isn't it?


Truth doesn't get in the way like you say. If you're going to discuss
that some meat doesn't use it, then compare it to
an organic garden (no pyrethrin needed) where
everything is manually seeded and harvested.

> >> > Your wild game probably has the same or more cds than
> >> > say, wild berries. Let's keep the apples with the apples.
> >> ======================
> >> Problem is fool, grass fed beef and game are all year, your berries

> > are not.
> >> that's part of your main problem. You cannot grow what you need

all
> > year.
> >> You *have* to resort to those imported veggies. Imports that kill,

> > kill,
> >> kill....

> >
> > Hmm. What's wrong with drying or canning the berries.
> > There. Now we're comparing same to same.

> ==========================
> LOL More CDs. But then, you've already proven that animals dying

for your
> convenience means nothing to you.


Think what you like, meatbreath. I know the truth
and so does anyone who's been following this.

By the way, how does drying or canning fruit cause
deaths?




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Tricky Ricky, the truly dishonest poster wrote
too much garbage and I hope he doesn't
expect me to answer ALL his posts
because I might not.

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"rick etter" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> "Smelly Nectar", the dishonest poster, wrote: well, nothing

really....


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"usual suspect" > wrote in message
...
> Scented Nectar wrote:
> >> I looked at her website and found out she's a really heavy

potsmoker.
> >>Her fingers were probably already twitching.

> >
> >

http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/nati...sis041202.html
> >
> > Oh, now you're gonna see reefer madness
> > in all my posts.

>
> I already have. Your neurons just don't fire.


Oh, they fire, or I doubt you'd be engaging
me in argument.

> > I'm glad you found a nice
> > little answer to things, and let's keep on topic.

>
> It's on topic, jellohead. It helps those of us engaging you in
> discussion understand why you come up with stupid notions and why your
> "logic" is so screwy.


Gee, I thought that you had predecided that I had
joined a vegan religion cult and THAT was why
the stupid and screwy insults. Change your mind
now?

> > Discuss the high quality hemp seed oil (non-
> > intoxicating) that has omegas 3,6,and 9.
> > There. Now we're on topic again.
> > Hempseed meal is quite nourishing.

>
> You smoke pot rather than eat the industrial non-THC seed meal;

smoking
> over time it is physcially and mentally unhealthy. Stop pretending

that
> there's any virtue in your endorsement of marijuana; your endorsements
> of "all the uses" of weed are nothing but an attempt to gain approval
> for your intoxication. Such advocacy is as phony as you are.


I mention the (non-intoxicating) parts of the plant to stay on
topic for this newsgroup. If you want to discuss my pot
advocacy we should probably take it over to one of those
alt.pot groups. And by the way I do eat the hulled seed.
It's tasty and has all 3 omega oils.


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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
>> >> > I already have, using your friend Usual's data
>> >> > My conclusion (which gives your side benefit
>> >> > of the doubt) was that meat causes 3 to 4 times
>> >> > the cds as vegan crops
>> >> =======================
>> >> No, you haven't. Because, as you like to say, you're comparing

> apples
>> > and
>> >> oranges. Since you act like all meat is raised the same, then

> we'll
>> > just
>> >> say that all veggioes are raised the same, and are doused with
>> > chemicals
>> >> from seed to store. Sounds about right to you, right?
>> >
>> > Sure. But that doesn't invalidate the 3 or 4 to 1 ratio.

>> ======================
>> It was never validated to begin with, killer. That's the lys and

> delusions
>> you hang onto. The fact some meat uses it, doesn't mean all meat

> does.
>> Too bad for you that the truth gets in the way, isn't it?

>
> Truth doesn't get in the way like you say. If you're going to discuss
> that some meat doesn't use it, then compare it to
> an organic garden (no pyrethrin needed) where
> everything is manually seeded and harvested.

======================
Why? That is not available year round to you, or to me. Grass-fed beef
is. It, like your mono-culture factory farmed veggies are easily available
year round. Your supposed 'hand grown' veggies are not. Besides, you have
already proven that you cannot be inconvenienced enough to actually take the
time and effort to grow any amount of your own foods. You are too
convenience driven and consumer-oriented to actually make the lifestyle
changes that would entail. So, again, the truth is that alternative meats
are much more available than your mythical alternative veggies....


>
>> >> > Your wild game probably has the same or more cds than
>> >> > say, wild berries. Let's keep the apples with the apples.
>> >> ======================
>> >> Problem is fool, grass fed beef and game are all year, your berries
>> > are not.
>> >> that's part of your main problem. You cannot grow what you need

> all
>> > year.
>> >> You *have* to resort to those imported veggies. Imports that kill,
>> > kill,
>> >> kill....
>> >
>> > Hmm. What's wrong with drying or canning the berries.
>> > There. Now we're comparing same to same.

>> ==========================
>> LOL More CDs. But then, you've already proven that animals dying

> for your
>> convenience means nothing to you.

>
> Think what you like, meatbreath. I know the truth
> and so does anyone who's been following this.
>
> By the way, how does drying or canning fruit cause
> deaths?

=====================
Are you really this stupid? You wouldn't be if you had read the sites I
posted instead of dishonestly snipping them out. Like I said, the truth
means nothing to you.


>
>
>
>
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> A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.
> Irony, hypocrisy and ignorance on display....




>



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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
> Tricky Ricky, the truly dishonest poster wrote
> too much garbage and I hope he doesn't
> expect me to answer ALL his posts
> because I might not.

=================
I never expected you to, because you cannot! You cannot refute what I have
posted, or even come close to defending your vegan religion.




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> http://www.scentednectar.com
> A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.
>
> "rick etter" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>>
>> "Smelly Nectar", the dishonest poster, wrote: well, nothing

> really....


And as usuall, she dishonestly snipped out parts of the post she couldn't
respond to.... Dishonesty and stupidity....
Smeely posts sites that she then has to snip out because they don't support
what she thought! What a hoot!
>
>





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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
>
> "usual suspect" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Scented Nectar wrote:
>> >> I looked at her website and found out she's a really heavy

> potsmoker.
>> >>Her fingers were probably already twitching.
>> >
>> >

> http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/nati...sis041202.html
>> >
>> > Oh, now you're gonna see reefer madness
>> > in all my posts.

>>
>> I already have. Your neurons just don't fire.

>
> Oh, they fire, or I doubt you'd be engaging
> me in argument.

=====================
ROTFLMAO You have no argument fool. That's been the whole point! You
have never responded with anything close to defending your vegan religion,
or refuting what we have told you about your ignorance.


>
>> > I'm glad you found a nice
>> > little answer to things, and let's keep on topic.

>>
>> It's on topic, jellohead. It helps those of us engaging you in
>> discussion understand why you come up with stupid notions and why your
>> "logic" is so screwy.

>
> Gee, I thought that you had predecided that I had
> joined a vegan religion cult and THAT was why
> the stupid and screwy insults. Change your mind
> now?
>
>> > Discuss the high quality hemp seed oil (non-
>> > intoxicating) that has omegas 3,6,and 9.
>> > There. Now we're on topic again.
>> > Hempseed meal is quite nourishing.

>>
>> You smoke pot rather than eat the industrial non-THC seed meal;

> smoking
>> over time it is physcially and mentally unhealthy. Stop pretending

> that
>> there's any virtue in your endorsement of marijuana; your endorsements
>> of "all the uses" of weed are nothing but an attempt to gain approval
>> for your intoxication. Such advocacy is as phony as you are.

>
> I mention the (non-intoxicating) parts of the plant to stay on
> topic for this newsgroup. If you want to discuss my pot
> advocacy we should probably take it over to one of those
> alt.pot groups. And by the way I do eat the hulled seed.
> It's tasty and has all 3 omega oils.

==================
What a coinsidence, so does grass-fed beef, and it doesn't take all the
chemical inputs from the petro-chemical industry to raise. You lose, again.
But then, you're really used to that now, eh killer?


>
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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
> Ricky, Ricky! You know, I think I'll answer your
> questions easier if you can leave the
> unnecessary insults out. There's no reason
> for you to be as upset and angry as you seem.
> =======================

LOL I'm laughing at you fool! no anger involved at all. Your stupidity
makes my days!


> --
> http://www.scentednectar.com
> A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.
> ==============

Irony, hypocrisy and stupidity on parade.

>
> "rick etter" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>
>> >> Care to try again, killer? ... killer.... killer ...

> spew your ignorance... killer ... Remember again
> about learning something before displaying
> your ignorance ... hypocrite... killer.... You are
> constantly making staements your brain
> cannot back up....Ignorant dolt.... Ever more
> irony and hypocrisy, but now add complete ignorance...
> etc, etc, etc.

================
I see you still haven't addressed the issues involved. Typical
brainwashing by vegan religion...


>
>



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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
> "rick etter" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
>>
>> "Scented Nectar" dishonestly snipped out portions again, that she

> cannot
>> refute...
>> typical vegan.....

>
> Yeah, we're all evil, and out to get you....boo!

================
No, just displaying your lack of facts, and you total ignorance of the
issue.


>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> > Don't forget, I may be not 100% vegan yet, but I'm getting there.
>> >> ==================
>> >> LOL Not as long as you are posting your ignorance to usenet you're
>> > not.
>> >> Again, veganism is a lifestyle, NOT a diet.
>> >
>> > You moron, it is first and foremost a diet.

>> ==================
>> No, it is not, fool.

>
> To me it means a dietary choice, regardless of your
> attempt to say all vegan share a lifestyle. That's not
> something all vegans do, just some.

================
Then they, and you, are not vegan fool! What part of the real definition
don't you understand?

>
>> >> > All that hay also isn't just for milk. It's for both milk and

> meat,
>> >> > but I think we both know that. How many cds does a hay reaping
>> >> > machine cause? And since you claim animals are on a 3 or 4 to 1
>> >> > ratio, then it takes 3 or 4 times the crop pounds to produce 1

> pound
>> >> > of meat. That's 3 to 4 times the cds when comparing meat and
>> >> > vegan food production.
>> >> ====================
>> >> Show your data, killer. prove it...
>> >
>> > Try actually READING the above. The proof is there.

>> =====================
>> ROTFLMAO Just saying it doesn't make it true you ignorant fool. Show

> your
>> proof. You cannot, because all you have is a simple rule for your

> simple
>> mind, 'eat no meat.'

>
> Hmmm, you sure about that? My 3 or 4 to 1 ratio is
> based on info Usual (I think) posted to refute my original
> belief that the ratio was 10 or 16 to 1. Even granting that
> the new ratio is true, there are the most cds from meat
> production. Except of course for that cow of yours that
> grazes and doesn't ever eat hay or crops! But I guess
> that's balanced out by a vegan's personal organic
> garden.

====================
Which you do not have, and can't be bothered with. besides, my grass-fed
beef is availble year round, nation wide. Your mythical home grown veggies
are not.


>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.scentednectar.com
> A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.
> ==============

Irony, hypocrisy and stupidity on parade.
>



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Scented Nectar wrote:
<...>
> Hmmm, you sure about that? My 3 or 4 to 1 ratio is
> based on info Usual (I think) posted to refute my original
> belief that the ratio was 10 or 16 to 1. Even granting that
> the new ratio is true, there are the most cds from meat
> production. Except of course for that cow of yours that
> grazes and doesn't ever eat hay or crops! But I guess
> that's balanced out by a vegan's personal organic
> garden.


That's worthy of discussion and consideration since homegrown produce
cuts down on CDs whether one eats meat or not; it's congruent with
Professor Davis' thesis. The issue is how many vegans, in your
experience, have their own gardens? Vegans tend to be young urban women,
not farmers. From observation in this group and from other vegan forums,
they also tend not to have gardens. They're almost exclusively dependent
on what's grown commercially and sold at stores (though some get their
produce via subscription).

Anyway, compiled vegan demographics:
Most likely to be female and under 35 -- 78% of vegans went
vegan between the ages of 16 and 34, with 52% between the ages
of 16 and 24. The average (mean) age for turning vegan is 24.1,
although the most frequent ages are 19, 20 and 21.
http://www.imaner.net/panel/profile.htm
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> Why? That is not available year round to you, or to me. Grass-fed
beef
> is. It, like your mono-culture factory farmed veggies are easily

available
> year round. Your supposed 'hand grown' veggies are not. Besides,

you have
> already proven that you cannot be inconvenienced enough to actually

take the
> time and effort to grow any amount of your own foods. You are too
> convenience driven and consumer-oriented to actually make the

lifestyle
> changes that would entail. So, again, the truth is that alternative

meats
> are much more available than your mythical alternative veggies....


Your beef and my veggies can be frozen, canned
or dried, yep yearround. I doubt you leave it to rot.

> >
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> > http://www.scentednectar.com
> > A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.





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Play nice Rick, and maybe more people will
play with you. Your constant insults are too
off putting to respond to any more. Also,
you won't listen to proof and truth.

--
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A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.

"rick etter" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ricky, Ricky! You know, I think I'll answer your
> > questions easier if you can leave the
> > unnecessary insults out. There's no reason
> > for you to be as upset and angry as you seem.
> > =======================

> LOL I'm laughing at you fool! no anger involved at all. Your

stupidity
> makes my days!
>
>
> > --
> > http://www.scentednectar.com
> > A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.
> > ==============

> Irony, hypocrisy and stupidity on parade.
>
> >
> > "rick etter" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> >
> >> >> Care to try again, killer? ... killer.... killer ...

> > spew your ignorance... killer ... Remember again
> > about learning something before displaying
> > your ignorance ... hypocrite... killer.... You are
> > constantly making staements your brain
> > cannot back up....Ignorant dolt.... Ever more
> > irony and hypocrisy, but now add complete ignorance...
> > etc, etc, etc.

> ================
> I see you still haven't addressed the issues involved. Typical
> brainwashing by vegan religion...
>
>
> >
> >

>
>



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Play nice Rick, and maybe more people will
play with you. Your constant insults are too
off putting to respond to any more. Also,
you won't listen to proof and truth.

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A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.

"rick etter" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ricky, Ricky! You know, I think I'll answer your
> > questions easier if you can leave the
> > unnecessary insults out. There's no reason
> > for you to be as upset and angry as you seem.
> > =======================

> LOL I'm laughing at you fool! no anger involved at all. Your

stupidity
> makes my days!
>
>
> > --
> > http://www.scentednectar.com
> > A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.
> > ==============

> Irony, hypocrisy and stupidity on parade.
>
> >
> > "rick etter" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> >
> >> >> Care to try again, killer? ... killer.... killer ...

> > spew your ignorance... killer ... Remember again
> > about learning something before displaying
> > your ignorance ... hypocrite... killer.... You are
> > constantly making staements your brain
> > cannot back up....Ignorant dolt.... Ever more
> > irony and hypocrisy, but now add complete ignorance...
> > etc, etc, etc.

> ================
> I see you still haven't addressed the issues involved. Typical
> brainwashing by vegan religion...
>
>
> >
> >

>
>



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"usual suspect" > wrote in message
...
> Scented Nectar wrote:
> <...>
> > Hmmm, you sure about that? My 3 or 4 to 1 ratio is
> > based on info Usual (I think) posted to refute my original
> > belief that the ratio was 10 or 16 to 1. Even granting that
> > the new ratio is true, there are the most cds from meat
> > production. Except of course for that cow of yours that
> > grazes and doesn't ever eat hay or crops! But I guess
> > that's balanced out by a vegan's personal organic
> > garden.

>
> That's worthy of discussion and consideration since homegrown produce
> cuts down on CDs whether one eats meat or not; it's congruent with
> Professor Davis' thesis. The issue is how many vegans, in your
> experience, have their own gardens? Vegans tend to be young urban

women,
> not farmers. From observation in this group and from other vegan

forums,
> they also tend not to have gardens. They're almost exclusively

dependent
> on what's grown commercially and sold at stores (though some get their
> produce via subscription).



I know small farm organic produce is availlable year round in
big cities. Are scrubfed (not grainfinished or hay added) beef
availlable year round too in stores and freezers?

http://www.scentednectar.com
A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.


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Scented Nectar wrote:
<...>
>>>Discuss the high quality hemp seed oil (non-
>>>intoxicating) that has omegas 3,6,and 9.
>>>There. Now we're on topic again.
>>>Hempseed meal is quite nourishing.

>>
>>You smoke pot rather than eat the industrial non-THC seed meal;
>>smoking over time it is physcially and mentally unhealthy. Stop pretending
>>that there's any virtue in your endorsement of marijuana; your endorsements
>>of "all the uses" of weed are nothing but an attempt to gain approval
>>for your intoxication. Such advocacy is as phony as you are.

>
> I mention the (non-intoxicating) parts of the plant to stay on
> topic for this newsgroup. If you want to discuss my pot
> advocacy we should probably take it over to one of those
> alt.pot groups. And by the way I do eat the hulled seed.
> It's tasty and has all 3 omega oils.


So does fish.
Marine sources: Atlantic salmon and other fatty, preferably
cold-water fish, including herring (both Atlantic and Pacific),
sardines, Atlantic halibut, bluefish, tuna, and Atlantic
mackerel. The American Heart Association recommends that people
eat tuna or salmon at least twice a week.
http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb

So does meat.
Wild game: Surprisingly, venison and buffalo are both good
sources of omega-3s and make a healthy choice for people craving
meat. These wild game meats can be purchased through mail-order
sources if your supermarket doesn't carry them.
http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb

WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. – Eat meat. That's the dietary advice given
by a team of scientists who examined the dietary role of fat in
a study that combined nutritional analysis with anthropologic
research about the diets of ancient hunter-gatherer societies.
But there's a catch: To be as healthy as a cave man you have to
eat certain kinds of fish, wild game such as venison, or
grass-fed meat such as beef.
http://tinyurl.com/66lol

Meat from grass-fed animals has two to four times more omega-3
fatty acids than meat from grain-fed animals.
http://www.eatwild.com/nutrition.html

Grass-fed beef has more beta-carotene, vitamin E and omega-3
fatty acids than beef produced using conventional feeding
strategies.
http://tinyurl.com/673q4

See also:
http://tinyurl.com/6tewt
http://www.mercola.com/2001/jan/21/grassfed_beef.htm
http://www.csuchico.edu/agr/grsfdbef/ (site is being revamped but has
useful information)

This, again, debunks your blanket claims against meat as a component of
a healthful diet.
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<...>
> I know small farm organic produce is availlable year round in
> big cities.


Shipped in from warmer climes during winter, just like your plantains.

> Are scrubfed (not grainfinished or hay added) beef
> availlable year round too in stores and freezers?


Yes, and most large game is harvested in late fall and winter; some
species like turkey also have a Spring season. We have year-round
hunting for feral pigs in Texas (I think also for some of the other
southern states). No need for anyone to go hungry here.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3911-4742r.htm


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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:21:10 -0500, "Scented Nectar" > wrote:

>Play nice Rick, and maybe more people will
>play with you. Your constant insults are too
>off putting to respond to any more. Also,
>you won't listen to proof and truth.


Sometimes, you just have let him have the last word
or you end up going round in circles repeating yourself.
He doesn't want to acknowledge the truth because it
would mean an end to his trolling here, and he doesn't
want give that up, even if it means making a complete
fool of himself every day.
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:21:10 -0500, "Scented Nectar" > wrote:

>Play nice Rick, and maybe more people will
>play with you. Your constant insults are too
>off putting to respond to any more. Also,
>you won't listen to proof and truth.


Sometimes, you just have let him have the last word
or you end up going round in circles repeating yourself.
He doesn't want to acknowledge the truth because it
would mean an end to his trolling here, and he doesn't
want give that up, even if it means making a complete
fool of himself every day.
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"usual suspect" > wrote in message
...
> Scented Nectar wrote:
> <...>
> >>>Discuss the high quality hemp seed oil (non-
> >>>intoxicating) that has omegas 3,6,and 9.
> >>>There. Now we're on topic again.
> >>>Hempseed meal is quite nourishing.
> >>
> >>You smoke pot rather than eat the industrial non-THC seed meal;
> >>smoking over time it is physcially and mentally unhealthy. Stop

pretending
> >>that there's any virtue in your endorsement of marijuana; your

endorsements
> >>of "all the uses" of weed are nothing but an attempt to gain

approval
> >>for your intoxication. Such advocacy is as phony as you are.

> >
> > I mention the (non-intoxicating) parts of the plant to stay on
> > topic for this newsgroup. If you want to discuss my pot
> > advocacy we should probably take it over to one of those
> > alt.pot groups. And by the way I do eat the hulled seed.
> > It's tasty and has all 3 omega oils.


Note that my post mentions all 3 omega oils, not just
omega 3. There's omega 3, 6, and 9. The stuff
below only mentions omega 3.


--
http://www.scentednectar.com
A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.



> So does fish.
> Marine sources: Atlantic salmon and other fatty, preferably
> cold-water fish, including herring (both Atlantic and Pacific),
> sardines, Atlantic halibut, bluefish, tuna, and Atlantic
> mackerel. The American Heart Association recommends that people
> eat tuna or salmon at least twice a week.
> http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb
>
> So does meat.
> Wild game: Surprisingly, venison and buffalo are both good
> sources of omega-3s and make a healthy choice for people craving
> meat. These wild game meats can be purchased through mail-order
> sources if your supermarket doesn't carry them.
> http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb
>
> WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. – Eat meat. That's the dietary advice given
> by a team of scientists who examined the dietary role of fat in
> a study that combined nutritional analysis with anthropologic
> research about the diets of ancient hunter-gatherer societies.
> But there's a catch: To be as healthy as a cave man you have to
> eat certain kinds of fish, wild game such as venison, or
> grass-fed meat such as beef.
> http://tinyurl.com/66lol
>
> Meat from grass-fed animals has two to four times more omega-3
> fatty acids than meat from grain-fed animals.
> http://www.eatwild.com/nutrition.html
>
> Grass-fed beef has more beta-carotene, vitamin E and omega-3
> fatty acids than beef produced using conventional feeding
> strategies.
> http://tinyurl.com/673q4
>
> See also:
> http://tinyurl.com/6tewt
> http://www.mercola.com/2001/jan/21/grassfed_beef.htm
> http://www.csuchico.edu/agr/grsfdbef/ (site is being revamped but has
> useful information)
>
> This, again, debunks your blanket claims against meat as a component

of
> a healthful diet.



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"Reynard" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:21:10 -0500, "Scented Nectar"

> wrote:
>
> >Play nice Rick, and maybe more people will
> >play with you. Your constant insults are too
> >off putting to respond to any more. Also,
> >you won't listen to proof and truth.

>
> Sometimes, you just have let him have the last word
> or you end up going round in circles repeating yourself.
> He doesn't want to acknowledge the truth because it
> would mean an end to his trolling here, and he doesn't
> want give that up, even if it means making a complete
> fool of himself every day.


Yeah, he certainly goes in circles. I'm getting tired
of responding to him. He just won't comprehend.


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Scented Nectar wrote:
<...>
>>>I mention the (non-intoxicating) parts of the plant to stay on
>>>topic for this newsgroup. If you want to discuss my pot
>>>advocacy we should probably take it over to one of those
>>>alt.pot groups. And by the way I do eat the hulled seed.
>>>It's tasty and has all 3 omega oils.


Don't post over what you're replying, dummy.

RESTORE CONTEXT
So does fish.
Marine sources: Atlantic salmon and other fatty, preferably
cold-water fish, including herring (both Atlantic and Pacific),
sardines, Atlantic halibut, bluefish, tuna, and Atlantic
mackerel. The American Heart Association recommends that people
eat tuna or salmon at least twice a week.
http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb

So does meat.
Wild game: Surprisingly, venison and buffalo are both good
sources of omega-3s and make a healthy choice for people craving
meat. These wild game meats can be purchased through mail-order
sources if your supermarket doesn't carry them.
http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb

WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. – Eat meat. That's the dietary advice given
by a team of scientists who examined the dietary role of fat in
a study that combined nutritional analysis with anthropologic
research about the diets of ancient hunter-gatherer societies.
But there's a catch: To be as healthy as a cave man you have to
eat certain kinds of fish, wild game such as venison, or
grass-fed meat such as beef.
http://tinyurl.com/66lol

Meat from grass-fed animals has two to four times more omega-3
fatty acids than meat from grain-fed animals.
http://www.eatwild.com/nutrition.html

Grass-fed beef has more beta-carotene, vitamin E and omega-3
fatty acids than beef produced using conventional feeding
strategies.
http://tinyurl.com/673q4

See also:
http://tinyurl.com/6tewt
http://www.mercola.com/2001/jan/21/grassfed_beef.htm
http://www.csuchico.edu/agr/grsfdbef/ (site is being revamped but has
useful information)

This, again, debunks your blanket claims against meat as a component of
a healthful diet.
END RESTORED CONTEXT

> Note that my post mentions all 3 omega oils, not just
> omega 3. There's omega 3, 6, and 9. The stuff
> below only mentions omega 3.


I noted your BS. Consider the following:
For most of the time humans have been on earth we have eaten
foods containing omega-6's and omega-3's in a ratio of about
2:1. However, over the last 50 years in North America, the ratio
has changed to from 2:1 to 10-20:1. Our diet now includes huge
amounts of oils that are extracted from plants and used for
cooking or in prepared foods. These oils (such as corn oil,
safflower oil, cottonseed oil, peanut oil, soybean oil) are
primarily omega-6s. We have decreased our intake of omega-3's,
found primarily in whole grains, beans and other seeds, and
seafood.

Eating too much omega-6 and too little omega-3 causes clots and
constricts arteries to increase risk for heart attacks,
increases swelling to worsen arthritis, and aggravates a skin
disease called psoriasis. It may block a person's ability to
respond to insulin, causing high insulin and blood sugar levels
and obesity. It increases hormone levels of insulin like growth
factor-1 that causes certain cancers.
http://www.drmirkin.com/nutrition/9483.html

Dr Mirkin's article above didn't include wild game and grass-fed meat,
but it's just as rich in omega-3 FAs as fish. Omega-6 FAs are found
primarily in vegetable oils. Omega 9 is oleic acid. It's a
monounsaturated oil found in both plant and animal fats. That means it's
not limited to eating hemp seeds, dopehead.

You've already demonstrated an abject ignorance of issues related health
(like cholesterol), so I wouldn't expect you to grasp issues about the
differences in various fatty acids. If you want to consume lots of
omega-6 FAs, it's your body; you've chosen a weird diet based upon
unsound reasons so I expect you'd eat unsound foods. I've seen your
recipes so it's clear you're not eating for optimal nutrition with all
the frying, butter, cheese, and margarine. A few hemp seeds aren't gonna
hurt you. Are they?


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Go eat meat usual. Go eat lots of it.
If you think it's so wonderful go pig out.
Oh yeah, you don't like it, er I mean
you prefer health from no animal
products, er I mean, what is it this
week? Hypocrite

"usual suspect" > wrote in message
...
> Scented Nectar wrote:
> <...>
> >>>I mention the (non-intoxicating) parts of the plant to stay on
> >>>topic for this newsgroup. If you want to discuss my pot
> >>>advocacy we should probably take it over to one of those
> >>>alt.pot groups. And by the way I do eat the hulled seed.
> >>>It's tasty and has all 3 omega oils.

>
> Don't post over what you're replying, dummy.
>
> RESTORE CONTEXT
> So does fish.
> Marine sources: Atlantic salmon and other fatty, preferably
> cold-water fish, including herring (both Atlantic and Pacific),
> sardines, Atlantic halibut, bluefish, tuna, and Atlantic
> mackerel. The American Heart Association recommends that people
> eat tuna or salmon at least twice a week.
> http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb
>
> So does meat.
> Wild game: Surprisingly, venison and buffalo are both good
> sources of omega-3s and make a healthy choice for people craving
> meat. These wild game meats can be purchased through mail-order
> sources if your supermarket doesn't carry them.
> http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb
>
> WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. – Eat meat. That's the dietary advice given
> by a team of scientists who examined the dietary role of fat in
> a study that combined nutritional analysis with anthropologic
> research about the diets of ancient hunter-gatherer societies.
> But there's a catch: To be as healthy as a cave man you have to
> eat certain kinds of fish, wild game such as venison, or
> grass-fed meat such as beef.
> http://tinyurl.com/66lol
>
> Meat from grass-fed animals has two to four times more omega-3
> fatty acids than meat from grain-fed animals.
> http://www.eatwild.com/nutrition.html
>
> Grass-fed beef has more beta-carotene, vitamin E and omega-3
> fatty acids than beef produced using conventional feeding
> strategies.
> http://tinyurl.com/673q4
>
> See also:
> http://tinyurl.com/6tewt
> http://www.mercola.com/2001/jan/21/grassfed_beef.htm
> http://www.csuchico.edu/agr/grsfdbef/ (site is being revamped but has
> useful information)
>
> This, again, debunks your blanket claims against meat as a component

of
> a healthful diet.
> END RESTORED CONTEXT
>
> > Note that my post mentions all 3 omega oils, not just
> > omega 3. There's omega 3, 6, and 9. The stuff
> > below only mentions omega 3.

>
> I noted your BS. Consider the following:
> For most of the time humans have been on earth we have eaten
> foods containing omega-6's and omega-3's in a ratio of about
> 2:1. However, over the last 50 years in North America, the ratio
> has changed to from 2:1 to 10-20:1. Our diet now includes huge
> amounts of oils that are extracted from plants and used for
> cooking or in prepared foods. These oils (such as corn oil,
> safflower oil, cottonseed oil, peanut oil, soybean oil) are
> primarily omega-6s. We have decreased our intake of omega-3's,
> found primarily in whole grains, beans and other seeds, and
> seafood.
>
> Eating too much omega-6 and too little omega-3 causes clots and
> constricts arteries to increase risk for heart attacks,
> increases swelling to worsen arthritis, and aggravates a skin
> disease called psoriasis. It may block a person's ability to
> respond to insulin, causing high insulin and blood sugar levels
> and obesity. It increases hormone levels of insulin like growth
> factor-1 that causes certain cancers.
> http://www.drmirkin.com/nutrition/9483.html
>
> Dr Mirkin's article above didn't include wild game and grass-fed meat,
> but it's just as rich in omega-3 FAs as fish. Omega-6 FAs are found
> primarily in vegetable oils. Omega 9 is oleic acid. It's a
> monounsaturated oil found in both plant and animal fats. That means

it's
> not limited to eating hemp seeds, dopehead.
>
> You've already demonstrated an abject ignorance of issues related

health
> (like cholesterol), so I wouldn't expect you to grasp issues about the
> differences in various fatty acids. If you want to consume lots of
> omega-6 FAs, it's your body; you've chosen a weird diet based upon
> unsound reasons so I expect you'd eat unsound foods. I've seen your
> recipes so it's clear you're not eating for optimal nutrition with all
> the frying, butter, cheese, and margarine. A few hemp seeds aren't

gonna
> hurt you. Are they?



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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
>> Why? That is not available year round to you, or to me. Grass-fed

> beef
>> is. It, like your mono-culture factory farmed veggies are easily

> available
>> year round. Your supposed 'hand grown' veggies are not. Besides,

> you have
>> already proven that you cannot be inconvenienced enough to actually

> take the
>> time and effort to grow any amount of your own foods. You are too
>> convenience driven and consumer-oriented to actually make the

> lifestyle
>> changes that would entail. So, again, the truth is that alternative

> meats
>> are much more available than your mythical alternative veggies....

>
> Your beef and my veggies can be frozen, canned
> or dried, yep yearround. I doubt you leave it to rot.

=====================
LOL Funny you should mention that, because that's exactly what *you* do
with the animals you kill for your veggies.


>
>> >
>> > --
>> > http://www.scentednectar.com
>> > A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.

>
>



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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
> Go eat meat usual. Go eat lots of it.
> If you think it's so wonderful go pig out.
> Oh yeah, you don't like it, er I mean
> you prefer health from no animal
> products, er I mean, what is it this
> week? Hypocrite

======================
Translation: Smelly got caught in her stupidity and now has nothing to
add.... Typical vegan loser. Guess it must be your diet, eh killer?


>
> "usual suspect" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Scented Nectar wrote:
>> <...>
>> >>>I mention the (non-intoxicating) parts of the plant to stay on
>> >>>topic for this newsgroup. If you want to discuss my pot
>> >>>advocacy we should probably take it over to one of those
>> >>>alt.pot groups. And by the way I do eat the hulled seed.
>> >>>It's tasty and has all 3 omega oils.

>>
>> Don't post over what you're replying, dummy.
>>
>> RESTORE CONTEXT
>> So does fish.
>> Marine sources: Atlantic salmon and other fatty, preferably
>> cold-water fish, including herring (both Atlantic and Pacific),
>> sardines, Atlantic halibut, bluefish, tuna, and Atlantic
>> mackerel. The American Heart Association recommends that people
>> eat tuna or salmon at least twice a week.
>> http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb
>>
>> So does meat.
>> Wild game: Surprisingly, venison and buffalo are both good
>> sources of omega-3s and make a healthy choice for people craving
>> meat. These wild game meats can be purchased through mail-order
>> sources if your supermarket doesn't carry them.
>> http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb
>>
>> WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. - Eat meat. That's the dietary advice given
>> by a team of scientists who examined the dietary role of fat in
>> a study that combined nutritional analysis with anthropologic
>> research about the diets of ancient hunter-gatherer societies.
>> But there's a catch: To be as healthy as a cave man you have to
>> eat certain kinds of fish, wild game such as venison, or
>> grass-fed meat such as beef.
>> http://tinyurl.com/66lol
>>
>> Meat from grass-fed animals has two to four times more omega-3
>> fatty acids than meat from grain-fed animals.
>> http://www.eatwild.com/nutrition.html
>>
>> Grass-fed beef has more beta-carotene, vitamin E and omega-3
>> fatty acids than beef produced using conventional feeding
>> strategies.
>> http://tinyurl.com/673q4
>>
>> See also:
>> http://tinyurl.com/6tewt
>> http://www.mercola.com/2001/jan/21/grassfed_beef.htm
>> http://www.csuchico.edu/agr/grsfdbef/ (site is being revamped but has
>> useful information)
>>
>> This, again, debunks your blanket claims against meat as a component

> of
>> a healthful diet.
>> END RESTORED CONTEXT
>>
>> > Note that my post mentions all 3 omega oils, not just
>> > omega 3. There's omega 3, 6, and 9. The stuff
>> > below only mentions omega 3.

>>
>> I noted your BS. Consider the following:
>> For most of the time humans have been on earth we have eaten
>> foods containing omega-6's and omega-3's in a ratio of about
>> 2:1. However, over the last 50 years in North America, the ratio
>> has changed to from 2:1 to 10-20:1. Our diet now includes huge
>> amounts of oils that are extracted from plants and used for
>> cooking or in prepared foods. These oils (such as corn oil,
>> safflower oil, cottonseed oil, peanut oil, soybean oil) are
>> primarily omega-6s. We have decreased our intake of omega-3's,
>> found primarily in whole grains, beans and other seeds, and
>> seafood.
>>
>> Eating too much omega-6 and too little omega-3 causes clots and
>> constricts arteries to increase risk for heart attacks,
>> increases swelling to worsen arthritis, and aggravates a skin
>> disease called psoriasis. It may block a person's ability to
>> respond to insulin, causing high insulin and blood sugar levels
>> and obesity. It increases hormone levels of insulin like growth
>> factor-1 that causes certain cancers.
>> http://www.drmirkin.com/nutrition/9483.html
>>
>> Dr Mirkin's article above didn't include wild game and grass-fed meat,
>> but it's just as rich in omega-3 FAs as fish. Omega-6 FAs are found
>> primarily in vegetable oils. Omega 9 is oleic acid. It's a
>> monounsaturated oil found in both plant and animal fats. That means

> it's
>> not limited to eating hemp seeds, dopehead.
>>
>> You've already demonstrated an abject ignorance of issues related

> health
>> (like cholesterol), so I wouldn't expect you to grasp issues about the
>> differences in various fatty acids. If you want to consume lots of
>> omega-6 FAs, it's your body; you've chosen a weird diet based upon
>> unsound reasons so I expect you'd eat unsound foods. I've seen your
>> recipes so it's clear you're not eating for optimal nutrition with all
>> the frying, butter, cheese, and margarine. A few hemp seeds aren't

> gonna
>> hurt you. Are they?

>
>



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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
> Play nice Rick, and maybe more people will
> play with you. Your constant insults are too
> off putting to respond to any more.

---------------------
No, the fact that you haven't been able to defend your ignorance or refute
anything I have posted is why you are running away. It's the typical vegan
response to getting a glimpse of the truth...



Also,
> you won't listen to proof and truth.

================
You don't have any fool. I have posted it, and you keep dishonestly
snipping it out.

>
> --
> http://www.scentednectar.com
> A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.
>
> "rick etter" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
>>
>> "Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Ricky, Ricky! You know, I think I'll answer your
>> > questions easier if you can leave the
>> > unnecessary insults out. There's no reason
>> > for you to be as upset and angry as you seem.
>> > =======================

>> LOL I'm laughing at you fool! no anger involved at all. Your

> stupidity
>> makes my days!
>>
>>
>> > --
>> > http://www.scentednectar.com
>> > A huge directory listing over 600 veg recipe sites.
>> > ==============

>> Irony, hypocrisy and stupidity on parade.
>>
>> >
>> > "rick etter" > wrote in message
>> > ink.net...
>> >
>> >> >> Care to try again, killer? ... killer.... killer ...
>> > spew your ignorance... killer ... Remember again
>> > about learning something before displaying
>> > your ignorance ... hypocrite... killer.... You are
>> > constantly making staements your brain
>> > cannot back up....Ignorant dolt.... Ever more
>> > irony and hypocrisy, but now add complete ignorance...
>> > etc, etc, etc.

>> ================
>> I see you still haven't addressed the issues involved. Typical
>> brainwashing by vegan religion...
>>
>>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



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"Reynard" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:21:10 -0500, "Scented Nectar" >
> wrote:
>
>>Play nice Rick, and maybe more people will
>>play with you. Your constant insults are too
>>off putting to respond to any more. Also,
>>you won't listen to proof and truth.

>
> Sometimes, you just have let him have the last word
> or you end up going round in circles repeating yourself.
> He doesn't want to acknowledge the truth because it
> would mean an end to his trolling here, and he doesn't
> want give that up, even if it means making a complete
> fool of himself every day.

==========================
Another dishonest fool says to the newest dishonest fool.





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"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Reynard" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:21:10 -0500, "Scented Nectar"

> > wrote:
>>
>> >Play nice Rick, and maybe more people will
>> >play with you. Your constant insults are too
>> >off putting to respond to any more. Also,
>> >you won't listen to proof and truth.

>>
>> Sometimes, you just have let him have the last word
>> or you end up going round in circles repeating yourself.
>> He doesn't want to acknowledge the truth because it
>> would mean an end to his trolling here, and he doesn't
>> want give that up, even if it means making a complete
>> fool of himself every day.

>
> Yeah, he certainly goes in circles. I'm getting tired
> of responding to him. He just won't comprehend.

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No, what you're tired of is having to snip out the truth I give you in every
post. The comprehension problem is all yours, hypocrite...


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Scented Nectar wrote:
> Go eat meat usual. Go eat lots of it.
> If you think it's so wonderful go pig out.


I'm keeping score. You claimed meat is universally dreadful; I've shown
you that various kinds and lean cuts can be part of a very healthful
diet. You claimed "vegan" is universally wonderful; I've shown you that
a vegetarian diet has to be well-planned to be healthful.

You're the one who doesn't distinguish between good and bad fats. You
just distinguish between meat and no-meat. Just as I've done each of the
last for days, I've shown you the errors you're making in your
generalizations and how they can be dangerous to one's health.

> Oh yeah, you don't like it, er I mean
> you prefer health from no animal
> products, er I mean, what is it this
> week? Hypocrite


Address the issue, dopey. You're the one who talks about veganism being
"the healthiest choice" while you appear to be a pretty heavy marijuana
smoker. Is smoke of any kind healthy? A study by researchers at UCLA
School of Medicine found that
smoking marijuana, regardless of tetrahydrocannabinol content,
results in a substantially greater respiratory burden of carbon
monoxide and tar than smoking a quantity of tobacco.
http://tinyurl.com/4h9np

You call me a hypocrite when I merely don't judge others on the basis of
diet as you do. I'm tolerant; I don't care if others eat like I do. I'm
interested in balanced diets. I'm interested in what science has to say,
not what marginal alternative-lifestyle activists want everyone to believe.

How are you different? You claim you do things that benefit animals and
claiming that you do things for health reasons. Your reality just
doesn't match what you say. The recipes on your site calling for rice
and fake meat from soy tell us that you're not too terribly concerned
about animals. It's almost amusing that you'd even raise health as an
issue of your diet when you so readily kill off brain cells with pot AND
burden your lungs and heart as well. You're intolerant -- you said
yesterday you wished everyone would be vegan like you. You're gullible
and accept the word of activists as Gospel, and you cut and run when
others show you the errors of what you parrot from the activists.

I'm leaving the rest of the post below. You raised the issue of omega-6s
and omega-9. I informed you of what omega-6 FAs are and that one should
be more concerned about intake of omega-3s to keep the ratio between the
two at an optimal level.

If the recipes on your site are pretty reflective of your typical diet,
you should be thanking me for the trouble I've gone through to help you
learn facts rather than propaganda whether or not you choose to eat
meat. Just stop lying with all your "meat bad, vegan good" because I've
already shown you that you're wrong on every statement you've made.

>>>>>I mention the (non-intoxicating) parts of the plant to stay on
>>>>>topic for this newsgroup. If you want to discuss my pot
>>>>>advocacy we should probably take it over to one of those
>>>>>alt.pot groups. And by the way I do eat the hulled seed.
>>>>>It's tasty and has all 3 omega oils.

>>
>>Don't post over what you're replying, dummy.
>>
>>RESTORE CONTEXT
>>So does fish.
>> Marine sources: Atlantic salmon and other fatty, preferably
>> cold-water fish, including herring (both Atlantic and Pacific),
>> sardines, Atlantic halibut, bluefish, tuna, and Atlantic
>> mackerel. The American Heart Association recommends that people
>> eat tuna or salmon at least twice a week.
>> http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb
>>
>>So does meat.
>> Wild game: Surprisingly, venison and buffalo are both good
>> sources of omega-3s and make a healthy choice for people craving
>> meat. These wild game meats can be purchased through mail-order
>> sources if your supermarket doesn't carry them.
>> http://tinyurl.com/2ujmb
>>
>> WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. – Eat meat. That's the dietary advice given
>> by a team of scientists who examined the dietary role of fat in
>> a study that combined nutritional analysis with anthropologic
>> research about the diets of ancient hunter-gatherer societies.
>> But there's a catch: To be as healthy as a cave man you have to
>> eat certain kinds of fish, wild game such as venison, or
>> grass-fed meat such as beef.
>> http://tinyurl.com/66lol
>>
>> Meat from grass-fed animals has two to four times more omega-3
>> fatty acids than meat from grain-fed animals.
>> http://www.eatwild.com/nutrition.html
>>
>> Grass-fed beef has more beta-carotene, vitamin E and omega-3
>> fatty acids than beef produced using conventional feeding
>> strategies.
>> http://tinyurl.com/673q4
>>
>>See also:
>>http://tinyurl.com/6tewt
>>http://www.mercola.com/2001/jan/21/grassfed_beef.htm
>>http://www.csuchico.edu/agr/grsfdbef/ (site is being revamped but has
>>useful information)
>>
>>This, again, debunks your blanket claims against meat as a component

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> of
>
>>a healthful diet.
>>END RESTORED CONTEXT
>>
>>
>>>Note that my post mentions all 3 omega oils, not just
>>>omega 3. There's omega 3, 6, and 9. The stuff
>>>below only mentions omega 3.

>>
>>I noted your BS. Consider the following:
>>For most of the time humans have been on earth we have eaten
>>foods containing omega-6's and omega-3's in a ratio of about
>>2:1. However, over the last 50 years in North America, the ratio
>>has changed to from 2:1 to 10-20:1. Our diet now includes huge
>>amounts of oils that are extracted from plants and used for
>>cooking or in prepared foods. These oils (such as corn oil,
>>safflower oil, cottonseed oil, peanut oil, soybean oil) are
>>primarily omega-6s. We have decreased our intake of omega-3's,
>>found primarily in whole grains, beans and other seeds, and
>>seafood.
>>
>>Eating too much omega-6 and too little omega-3 causes clots and
>>constricts arteries to increase risk for heart attacks,
>>increases swelling to worsen arthritis, and aggravates a skin
>>disease called psoriasis. It may block a person's ability to
>>respond to insulin, causing high insulin and blood sugar levels
>>and obesity. It increases hormone levels of insulin like growth
>>factor-1 that causes certain cancers.
>>http://www.drmirkin.com/nutrition/9483.html
>>
>>Dr Mirkin's article above didn't include wild game and grass-fed meat,
>>but it's just as rich in omega-3 FAs as fish. Omega-6 FAs are found
>>primarily in vegetable oils. Omega 9 is oleic acid. It's a
>>monounsaturated oil found in both plant and animal fats. That means

>
> it's
>
>>not limited to eating hemp seeds, dopehead.
>>
>>You've already demonstrated an abject ignorance of issues related

>
> health
>
>>(like cholesterol), so I wouldn't expect you to grasp issues about the
>>differences in various fatty acids. If you want to consume lots of
>>omega-6 FAs, it's your body; you've chosen a weird diet based upon
>>unsound reasons so I expect you'd eat unsound foods. I've seen your
>>recipes so it's clear you're not eating for optimal nutrition with all
>>the frying, butter, cheese, and margarine. A few hemp seeds aren't
>>gonna hurt you. Are they?

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