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On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:
I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats eggs

I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile

my current diet is

meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice
meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches
meal 3) a can of corn or peas
meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice

I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and cheese
might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives

I can replace the milk with soy milk

I don't have to eat the eggs

I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones I am
using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to with cheap
non-leather alternatives

but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have to
cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that I can
find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel far due to
gas costs

once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or vegetarian
Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away

I can do without the pizza since it has cheese

any ideas?



well this is what I did

got soy milk

replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter

all at one of my local grocers

I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they use
soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey

so I'll have to do something there

I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and
Turner's) treat the cows well

don't know about an occasional pizza

don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin

don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently have
or finish it up, any ideas?

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don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently have
or finish it up, any ideas?



I would think it'd just be wasteful to throw it out.

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Le 2013-08-16 19:10, Dale a écrit :
On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:
I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats eggs

I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile

my current diet is

meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice
meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches
meal 3) a can of corn or peas
meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice

I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and cheese
might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives

I can replace the milk with soy milk

I don't have to eat the eggs

I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones I am
using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to with cheap
non-leather alternatives

but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have to
cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that I can
find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel far due to
gas costs

once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or vegetarian
Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away

I can do without the pizza since it has cheese

any ideas?



well this is what I did

got soy milk

replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter

all at one of my local grocers

I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they use
soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey

so I'll have to do something there

I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and
Turner's) treat the cows well

don't know about an occasional pizza

don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin

don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently have
or finish it up, any ideas?


Humans are omnivores. Eat what you want. Don't fuss over it.

In the immortal words of Michael Pollan:

“Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.”


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On 8/16/2013 11:24 PM, Olrik wrote:
Le 2013-08-16 19:10, Dale a écrit :
On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:
I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats
eggs

I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile

my current diet is

meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice
meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches
meal 3) a can of corn or peas
meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice

I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and cheese
might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives

I can replace the milk with soy milk

I don't have to eat the eggs

I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones I am
using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to with cheap
non-leather alternatives

but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have to
cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that I can
find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel far due to
gas costs

once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or
vegetarian
Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away

I can do without the pizza since it has cheese

any ideas?



well this is what I did

got soy milk

replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter

all at one of my local grocers

I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they use
soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey

so I'll have to do something there

I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and
Turner's) treat the cows well

don't know about an occasional pizza

don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin

don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently
have
or finish it up, any ideas?


Humans are omnivores. Eat what you want. Don't fuss over it.

In the immortal words of Michael Pollan:

“Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.”


Rice and beans on Monday. Beans and rice on Tuesday. Repeat.

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Le 2013-08-17 00:43, Dakota a écrit :
On 8/16/2013 11:24 PM, Olrik wrote:
Le 2013-08-16 19:10, Dale a écrit :
On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:
I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats
eggs

I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile

my current diet is

meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice
meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches
meal 3) a can of corn or peas
meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice

I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and cheese
might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives

I can replace the milk with soy milk

I don't have to eat the eggs

I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones I am
using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to with cheap
non-leather alternatives

but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have to
cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that I can
find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel far due to
gas costs

once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or
vegetarian
Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away

I can do without the pizza since it has cheese

any ideas?



well this is what I did

got soy milk

replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter

all at one of my local grocers

I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they use
soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey

so I'll have to do something there

I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and
Turner's) treat the cows well

don't know about an occasional pizza

don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin

don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently
have
or finish it up, any ideas?


Humans are omnivores. Eat what you want. Don't fuss over it.

In the immortal words of Michael Pollan:

“Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.”


Rice and beans on Monday. Beans and rice on Tuesday. Repeat.


Have a day with steak or bacon.


--
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division


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On 08/16/2013 09:24 PM, Olrik wrote:
Le 2013-08-16 19:10, Dale a écrit :
On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:
I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats eggs

I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile

my current diet is

meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice
meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches
meal 3) a can of corn or peas
meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice

I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and cheese
might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives

I can replace the milk with soy milk

I don't have to eat the eggs

I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones I am
using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to with cheap
non-leather alternatives

but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have to
cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that I can
find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel far due to
gas costs

once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or vegetarian
Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away

I can do without the pizza since it has cheese

any ideas?



well this is what I did

got soy milk

replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter

all at one of my local grocers

I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they use
soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey

so I'll have to do something there

I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and
Turner's) treat the cows well

don't know about an occasional pizza

don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin

don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently have
or finish it up, any ideas?


Humans are omnivores. Eat what you want. Don't fuss over it.

In the immortal words of Michael Pollan:

“Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.”



These anti-lacto-ovarian vegetarians make the error of assuming
that all egg producers are treating their animals as badly as the
things they see portrayed on TV to try to discourage the ingestion of
meat.
Most of the time farmers treat their animals far better than
the sort of abuse depicted..
If I try to eat a vegetarian diet I get sick so what works
for some folks does not work for all individuals. Oh and by the way
I was raised by family tradition (stronger than religion) to eat
animal protein. My family had two farms successively and I did chores
like bringing the cows back to the barn to be milked, and collecting
eggs from the chickens, watched my mom butcher numerous rabbits which
we also skinned for the cash sales.
I eat animal protein now than every before in my
life except for a period just before I came down with a chronic
illness when I tried to eat soy products.
Now-a-days I use hemp milk and coconut milk products.
I go thru about a dozen eggs per month, several pounds
of chicken meat and several pounds of turkey meat with a bit
of braised pork or beef when I can afford it. I got to
76 years of age last week. Despite my chronic illness and
my poverty I fear I will last another 10 years or more.
My food allergies and sensitivities include animal milk products,
wheat, citrus fruit and almonds.

bon appetite'

bliss
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Olrik wrote in :

Le 2013-08-17 00:43, Dakota a écrit :
On 8/16/2013 11:24 PM, Olrik wrote:
Le 2013-08-16 19:10, Dale a écrit :
On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:
I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats
eggs

I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile

my current diet is

meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice
meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches
meal 3) a can of corn or peas
meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice

I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and
cheese might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives

I can replace the milk with soy milk

I don't have to eat the eggs

I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones
I am using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to
with cheap non-leather alternatives

but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have
to cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that
I can find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel
far due to gas costs

once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or
vegetarian
Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away

I can do without the pizza since it has cheese

any ideas?



well this is what I did

got soy milk

replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter

all at one of my local grocers

I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they
use soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey

so I'll have to do something there

I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and
Turner's) treat the cows well

don't know about an occasional pizza

don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin

don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently
have
or finish it up, any ideas?

Humans are omnivores. Eat what you want. Don't fuss over it.

In the immortal words of Michael Pollan:

“Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.”


Rice and beans on Monday. Beans and rice on Tuesday. Repeat.


Have a day with steak or bacon.


Have a better day with steak *and* bacon.

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skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com



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Olrik wrote in :
Le 2013-08-17 00:43, Dakota a écrit :
On 8/16/2013 11:24 PM, Olrik wrote:
Le 2013-08-16 19:10, Dale a écrit :
On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:
I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats
eggs

I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile

my current diet is

meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice
meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches
meal 3) a can of corn or peas
meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice

I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and
cheese might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives

I can replace the milk with soy milk

I don't have to eat the eggs

I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones
I am using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to
with cheap non-leather alternatives

but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have
to cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that
I can find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel
far due to gas costs

once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or
vegetarian
Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away

I can do without the pizza since it has cheese

any ideas?



well this is what I did

got soy milk

replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter

all at one of my local grocers

I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they
use soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey

so I'll have to do something there

I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and
Turner's) treat the cows well

don't know about an occasional pizza

don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin

don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently
have
or finish it up, any ideas?

Humans are omnivores. Eat what you want. Don't fuss over it.

In the immortal words of Michael Pollan:

"Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

Rice and beans on Monday. Beans and rice on Tuesday. Repeat.


Have a day with steak or bacon.


Have a better day with steak *and* bacon.


In many cases the very 'first' symptom of a heart attack
is, *sudden death*....as some customers of a restaurant
called the "Heart Grill" have experienced.

http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/he...tack-grill.htm


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Le 2013-08-17 05:55, Andrew a écrit :
"SkyEyes" wrote in message ...
Olrik wrote in :
Le 2013-08-17 00:43, Dakota a écrit :
On 8/16/2013 11:24 PM, Olrik wrote:
Le 2013-08-16 19:10, Dale a écrit :
On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:
I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats
eggs

I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile

my current diet is

meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice
meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches
meal 3) a can of corn or peas
meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice

I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and
cheese might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives

I can replace the milk with soy milk

I don't have to eat the eggs

I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones
I am using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to
with cheap non-leather alternatives

but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have
to cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that
I can find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel
far due to gas costs

once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or
vegetarian
Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away

I can do without the pizza since it has cheese

any ideas?



well this is what I did

got soy milk

replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter

all at one of my local grocers

I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they
use soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey

so I'll have to do something there

I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and
Turner's) treat the cows well

don't know about an occasional pizza

don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin

don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently
have
or finish it up, any ideas?

Humans are omnivores. Eat what you want. Don't fuss over it.

In the immortal words of Michael Pollan:

"Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

Rice and beans on Monday. Beans and rice on Tuesday. Repeat.

Have a day with steak or bacon.


Have a better day with steak *and* bacon.


In many cases the very 'first' symptom of a heart attack
is, *sudden death*....as some customers of a restaurant
called the "Heart Grill" have experienced.

http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/he...tack-grill.htm


Human death rate: 100%
Vegetarian death rate: 100%
Vegan death rate: 100%
Meat-lover death rate: 100%

Chose wisely.

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On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:
I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats eggs

I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile

my current diet is

meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice
meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches
meal 3) a can of corn or peas
meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice

I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and cheese
might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives

I can replace the milk with soy milk

I don't have to eat the eggs

I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones I am
using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to with cheap
non-leather alternatives

but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have to
cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that I can
find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel far due to
gas costs

once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or vegetarian
Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away

I can do without the pizza since it has cheese

any ideas?



well this is what I did

got soy milk

replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter

all at one of my local grocers

I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they use
soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey

so I'll have to do something there

I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and
Turner's) treat the cows well

don't know about an occasional pizza

don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin

don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently have
or finish it up, any ideas?

--
Dale
Menfolks should not eat Soy products since it has natural estrogen which can make a male grow breastes and such stuff. Try almond and or rice milk for a sub. Best bet for you would be to replace meal 1 with all the fresh fruit you might like. They will knock hunger till way past noon..where meal 2 should be a raw dark leafy green salad combined with any other raw veggies you might like. Salad dressed with XXX virgin Greek Olive Oil and Braggs raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar. If still hungry have a bowl of pinto beans with cornbread. Repeat for meal 3. Allow yourself one pig out day per week to eat anything you want. If your really going to plumb swear off meat an eggs you will need some Vitamin B supplementation. B's are scarce as hens teeth in the plant kingdom. This place is very helpful for raw vegans. Best of fortunes on the program.
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Dana subota, 17. kolovoza 2013. 01:10:38 UTC+2, korisnik Dale napisao je:
On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:

I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats eggs




I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile




my current diet is




meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice


meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches


meal 3) a can of corn or peas


meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice




I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and cheese


might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives




I can replace the milk with soy milk




I don't have to eat the eggs




I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones I am


using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to with cheap


non-leather alternatives




but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have to


cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that I can


find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel far due to


gas costs




once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or vegetarian


Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away




I can do without the pizza since it has cheese




any ideas?








well this is what I did



got soy milk



replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter



all at one of my local grocers



I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they use

soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey



so I'll have to do something there



I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and

Turner's) treat the cows well



don't know about an occasional pizza



don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin



don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently have

or finish it up, any ideas?



--

Dale


nice!
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Dana subota, 17. kolovoza 2013. 01:10:38 UTC+2, korisnik Dale napisao je:
On 08/16/2013 03:54 AM, Dale wrote:

I am currently a vegetarian that drinks milk and infrequently eats eggs




I was told chicken eggs are non-fertile




my current diet is




meal 1) whey protein/nut bar and milk and orange juice


meal 2) two whole wheat cheese sandwiches


meal 3) a can of corn or peas


meal 4) a roll of crackers and orange juice




I would like to go vegan, since I seem to think that milk and cheese


might come from animals that are mistreated all their lives




I can replace the milk with soy milk




I don't have to eat the eggs




I have various leather things, a belt and shoes are the only ones I am


using and will replace them with non-leather when I need to with cheap


non-leather alternatives




but I need something to replace the cheese with that I don't have to


cook and is inexpensive, as you see my diet is cheap, and that I can


find in a regular USA grocery store, I don't want to travel far due to


gas costs




once in awhile I treat myself to MacDonald's fries, pizza or vegetarian


Chinese, I like Indian but it is more expensive and further away




I can do without the pizza since it has cheese




any ideas?








well this is what I did



got soy milk



replaced cheese with a pure peanut butter



all at one of my local grocers



I'm now going to have to check my protein bars to see whether they use

soy or whey protein, pause, looks like they have whey



so I'll have to do something there



I hear the milk and cheese products in my area (Schneider's and

Turner's) treat the cows well



don't know about an occasional pizza



don't know about an occasional egg McMuffin



don't know whether it is better karma to throw out what I currently have

or finish it up, any ideas?



--

Dale




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