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On 26 Nov 2012 20:05:25 GMT, wrote:


http://www.squidoo.com/first-thanksgiving

The foods included in the first feast included duck, geese, venison,
fish, lobster, clams, swan, berries, dried fruit, pumpkin, squash, and
many more vegetables.


No one knows, and few care.

Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of
wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of
buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.
What they try to avoid are products which provide life
(and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have
to avoid the following items containing animal by-products
in order to be successful:

tires, paper, upholstery, floor waxes, glass, water
filters, rubber, fertilizer, antifreeze, ceramics, insecticides,
insulation, linoleum, plastic, textiles, blood factors, collagen,
heparin, insulin, solvents, biodegradable detergents, herbicides,
gelatin capsules, adhesive tape, laminated wood products,
plywood, paneling, wallpaper and wallpaper paste, cellophane
wrap and tape, abrasives, steel ball bearings

The meat industry provides life for the animals that it
slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it
as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for
their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume
animal products from animals they think are raised in decent
ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the
future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for
livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious
consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by
being vegan.
From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well
over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people
get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is
likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings
derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products
contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and
better lives for livestock than soy or rice products.

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Default The First Thanksgiving - by Rynn Berry

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, Goo wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, Goo wrote:

On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004

The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

By Rynn Berry

http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html

[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.

The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.

No, it hasn't.


Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life only because of their
consumers, not because of veg*ns. Veg*nism does nothing to contribute to better
lives, longer lives, or any lives at all for turkeys raised for food.


Meaningless.


No Goob, it has a number of meanings.

It has no moral meaning at all.


It has as much or more than the fact that they're killed, Goo.

It is not "good" that
turkeys "get to experience life."


And how do you want people to think you found that out Goober?
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Default The First Thanksgiving - by Rynn Berry

****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:

On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004

The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

By Rynn Berry

http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html

[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.

The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.

No, it hasn't.

Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life


Meaningless. Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.

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Default The First Thanksgiving - by Rynn Berry

On Nov 29, 3:16*pm, George Plimpton wrote:
****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:





On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:


On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:


On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:


On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving


[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004


The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving


By Rynn Berry


http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html


[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.


The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.


No, it hasn't.


Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life


Meaningless. *Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.



You must have considered it in order to decide it doesn't get
consideration which defines you as irrational, Gooby.
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:45:01 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"
wrote:

On Nov 29, 3:16*pm, Goo wrote:
dh pointed out:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, Goo wrote:


On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, dh pointed out:


On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, Goo wrote:


On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving


[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004


The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving


By Rynn Berry


http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html


[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.


The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.


No, it hasn't.


Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life


Meaningless. *Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.



You must have considered it in order to decide it doesn't get
consideration which defines you as irrational, Gooby.


It's another classic Goobal self-outstupidification by Goo having no idea
how he wants people to think he thinks he disagrees with himself:

"I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
of consideration. I also give the not-yet-begun lives
of animals that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a
lot of consideration" - Goo


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Default The First Thanksgiving - by Rynn Berry

****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:45:01 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"
wrote:

On Nov 29, 3:16 pm, Goo wrote:
dh pointed out:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, Goo wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, dh pointed out:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, Goo wrote:

On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004

The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

By Rynn Berry

http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html

[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.

The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.

No, it hasn't.

Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life

Meaningless. Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.



You must have considered it in order to decide it doesn't get
consideration which defines you as irrational, Gooby.


It's another classic


It's another instance of me pointing out the obvious, logical and
*necessary* truth, *Goo*.

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On Dec 3, 3:29*pm, [email protected] wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:45:01 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"





wrote:
On Nov 29, 3:16 pm, Goo wrote:
dh pointed out:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, Goo wrote:


On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, dh pointed out:


On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, Goo wrote:


On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving


[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004


The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving


By Rynn Berry


http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html


[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.


The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.


No, it hasn't.


Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life


Meaningless. Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.


You must have considered it in order to decide it doesn't get
consideration which defines you as irrational, Gooby.


* * It's another classic Goobal self-outstupidification by Goo having no idea
how he wants people to think he thinks he disagrees with himself:

"I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
of consideration. *I also give the not-yet-begun lives
of animals that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a
lot of consideration" - Goo



and by his own definition he said he's irrational. Poor stupid Goo.
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 23:33:30 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"
wrote:

On Dec 3, 3:29*pm, [email protected] wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:45:01 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"





wrote:
On Nov 29, 3:16 pm, Goo wrote:
dh pointed out:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, Goo wrote:


On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, dh pointed out:


On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, Goo wrote:


On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving


[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004


The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving


By Rynn Berry


http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html


[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.


The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.


No, it hasn't.


Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life


Meaningless. Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.


You must have considered it in order to decide it doesn't get
consideration which defines you as irrational, Gooby.


* * It's another classic Goobal self-outstupidification by Goo having no idea
how he wants people to think he thinks he disagrees with himself:

"I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
of consideration. *I also give the not-yet-begun lives
of animals that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a
lot of consideration" - Goo



and by his own definition he said he's irrational. Poor stupid Goo.


Could it be he's not too stupid to realise that disagreeing with himself as
much as he does could be seen as irrational?
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:36 -0800, Goo timidly puled:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:29:07 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:45:01 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"
wrote:

On Nov 29, 3:16*pm, Goo wrote:
dh pointed out:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, Goo wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, dh pointed out:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, Goo wrote:

On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004

The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

By Rynn Berry

http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html

[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.

The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.

No, it hasn't.

Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life

Meaningless. *Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.


You must have considered it in order to decide it doesn't get
consideration which defines you as irrational, Gooby.


It's another classic Goobal self-outstupidification by Goo having no idea
how he wants people to think he thinks he disagrees with himself:

"I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
of consideration. I also give the not-yet-begun lives
of animals that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a
lot of consideration" - Goo


It's another instance of me pointing out the obvious


It's another classic example of you disagreeing with yourself Goober, and we
know from plenty of past experience that you have no idea how you want people to
think you do disagree with yourself. I challenge you to try explaining how you
want us to think you disagree with yourself Goob. Go:
.. . . .

You lose, Goo.
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Default The First Thanksgiving - by Rynn Berry

****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:36 -0800, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote::

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:29:07 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:45:01 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"
wrote:

On Nov 29, 3:16 pm, George R. Plimpton wrote:
****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, Goo wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, George L. Plimpton wrote:

On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004

The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

By Rynn Berry

http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html

[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.

The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.

No, it hasn't.

Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life

Meaningless. Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.


You must have considered it in order to decide it doesn't get
consideration which defines you as irrational

It's another classic


It's another instance of me pointing out the obvious, logical and *necessary* truth, *Goo*.


It's another classic example of


It's another instance of me pointing out the obvious, logical and
*necessary* truth, *Goo*.



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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:34:08 -0800, Goo wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:34:15 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:36 -0800, Goo timidly puled:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:29:07 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:45:01 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"
wrote:

On Nov 29, 3:16*pm, Goo wrote:
dh pointed out:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, Goo wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, dh pointed out:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, Goo wrote:

On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004

The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

By Rynn Berry

http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html

[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.

The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.

No, it hasn't.

Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life

Meaningless. *Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.


You must have considered it in order to decide it doesn't get
consideration which defines you as irrational, Gooby.

It's another classic Goobal self-outstupidification by Goo having no idea
how he wants people to think he thinks he disagrees with himself:

"I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
of consideration. I also give the not-yet-begun lives
of animals that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a
lot of consideration" - Goo

It's another instance of me pointing out the obvious


It's another classic example of you disagreeing with yourself Goober, and we
know from plenty of past experience that you have no idea how you want people to
think you do disagree with yourself. I challenge you to try explaining how you
want us to think you disagree with yourself Goob. Go:
. . . .

You lose, Goo.


It's anoth


Try to explain HOW you want people to think you disagree with yourself about
this Goo. Go:
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Default The First Thanksgiving - by Rynn Berry

****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:34:08 -0800, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:34:15 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:36 -0800, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:29:07 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:45:01 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"
wrote:

On Nov 29, 3:16 pm, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote:
****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, Goo wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote:

On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004

The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

By Rynn Berry

http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html

[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.

The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.

No, it hasn't.

Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life

Meaningless. Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.


You must have considered it in

It's another classic
lot of consideration" - Goo

It's another instance of me pointing out the obvious, logical and *necessary* truth, *Goo*.

It's another classic example of


It's another instance of me pointing out the obvious, logical and *necessary* truth, *Goo*.

You lose *again*, *Goo*.



Try to explain HOW


"Getting to experience life" is not - *cannot* be - a benefit, Goo. Proved.

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On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:23 -0800, Goo lost again:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:58:41 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:34:08 -0800, Goo wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:34:15 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:36 -0800, Goo timidly puled:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:29:07 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:45:01 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"
wrote:

On Nov 29, 3:16*pm, Goo wrote:
dh pointed out:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, Goo wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, dh pointed out:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, Goo wrote:

On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004

The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

By Rynn Berry

http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html

[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.

The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.

No, it hasn't.

Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life

Meaningless. *Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.


You must have considered it in order to decide it doesn't get
consideration which defines you as irrational, Gooby.

It's another classic Goobal self-outstupidification by Goo having no idea
how he wants people to think he thinks he disagrees with himself:

"I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
of consideration. I also give the not-yet-begun lives
of animals that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a
lot of consideration" - Goo

It's another instance of me pointing out the obvious

It's another classic example of you disagreeing with yourself Goober, and we
know from plenty of past experience that you have no idea how you want people to
think you do disagree with yourself. I challenge you to try explaining how you
want us to think you disagree with yourself Goob. Go:
. . . .

You lose, Goo.

It's anoth


Try to explain HOW you want people to think you disagree with yourself about
this Goo. Go:


"Ge


You lose again, Goo.
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Default The First Thanksgiving - by Rynn Berry

****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:23 -0800, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:58:41 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:34:08 -0800, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:34:15 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:45:36 -0800, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:29:07 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:45:01 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"
wrote:

On Nov 29, 3:16 pm, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote:
****wit David Harrison - convicted child molester - lied and failed to point anything out:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:56 -0800, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:30 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:38:01 -0800, George M. Plimpton - smarter, quicker, better looking, and more successful than ****wit David Harrison in *EVERY* dimension - wrote:

On 11/22/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

[ Subject: The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving
[ From:
[ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004

The First Vegetarian Thanksgiving

By Rynn Berry

http://all-creatures.org/articles/tgveg-rb.html

[Ed.] "But it's tradition," is the cry when vegetarians
wonder why killing an animal should make Thanksgiving
special. Vegetarian historian Rynn Berry begs to differ.

The story of the Pilgrim's First Thanksgiving -- and
turkey's place in it -- has been shown to be largely a
myth.

No, it hasn't.

Whether or no, millions of turkeys today experience life

Meaningless. Their "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning,
and therefore it deserves and gets no consideration from rational people.


You must have considered it in

It's another classic

It's another instance of me pointing out the obvious, logical and *necessary* truth, *Goo*.

It's another classic

It's another instance of me pointing out the obvious, logical and *necessary* truth, *Goo*.

Try to explain HOW


"Getting to experience life" is not - *cannot* be - a benefit, Goo. Proved.


You


I win *again*, *Goo*. I always win - I always kick your ass. You've
admitted it.



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