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dh@. wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:


>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>> is his enemy.

>
> Rupert is bullshitting


You're bullshitting when you pose as someone who cares about the
suffering of animals. You yammer on about "having consideration for the
animals" but all you mean when you say that is that any life or pleasure
livestock animals have implies a credit to your lifestyle, and ARAs, in
contrast by not consuming animal products lose that credit. It is a
stupid, sophistic attempt to turn the tables on vegetarians, and it
falls flat.



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On 12/27/2012 12:04 PM, dh@. wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>
>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>> They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position
>>>> they're in.
>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their pov
>>>> Goo. If
>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but
>>>> they're
>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.
>>>>
>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about
>>>>>> the animals.
>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but
>>>>>> then again he
>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he
>>>>>> doesn't want
>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his lame
>>>>>> ass. You
>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.
>>>
>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober and
>>> more adept at argument. Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact and
>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. Rupert is just afraid to commit
>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.

>>
>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>> is his enemy.

>
> Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction
> between lives of positive and negative value imo.


What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
have too much negative value in it. LOL!!!


> If not then he's mentally
> restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class


There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again; also bullshit
about "mentally restricted."

You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid.
You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 18:21:33 -0800, Dutch > wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>
>>>Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh@. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position
>>>>> they're in.
>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their pov
>>>>> Goo. If
>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but
>>>>> they're
>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about
>>>>>>> the animals.
>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but
>>>>>>> then again he
>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he
>>>>>>> doesn't want
>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his lame
>>>>>>> ass. You
>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.
>>>>
>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober and
>>>> more adept at argument. Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact and
>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. Rupert is just afraid to commit
>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.
>>>
>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>is his enemy.

>>
>> Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction
>>between lives of positive and negative value imo. If not then he's mentally
>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we all could
>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like yourself is a
>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic animals
>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of positive and
>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any distinction
>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF that's
>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated and can't
>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and wildlife it
>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he can't
>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and humans he
>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...
>>
>> Goo lies that I'm a convicted felon. Goo lies that I don't consider quality
>>of life. Goo lies that I don't appreciate life for billions of livestock
>>animals. Goo claims life is not the benefit it so clearly appears to be, yet
>>can't even begin to pretend he has any clue what could prevent it from being one
>>(though he's revealed that he thinks it has something to do with the
>>pre-existent state). Goo claims to oppose the misnomer yet can never produce any
>>of his supposed opposition. Goo has suggested that there are multiple Ruperts
>>yet can't even pretend to explain what he thought he was trying to talk about.
>>Goo has insisted that some livestock are raised for no other reason than to
>>become pet food. Goo has lied that he was a Marine. Goo has lied more than once
>>that he has a PhD. Goo has dishonestly pretended to be dozens of different
>>people, often supporting and praising himselves while doing so. Etc...

>
>You're bullshitting when you pose as someone who cares about the
>suffering of animals. You yammer on about "having consideration for the
>animals"


I give their lives as much or more consideration than their deaths. At one
time you pretended that you did too. What happened to make you unlearn, and why
do you think it should make everybody else unlearn too, don't you have any idea
about that? YOU are the one who claims to have unlearned because it made you
feel "dirty" or whatever, but you can't say what caused the unlearning. How can
you expect other people to unlearn from you, if you can't even say how you
unlearned your own stupid self???

>but all you mean when you say that is that any life or pleasure
>livestock animals have implies a credit to your lifestyle,


I consider the lives of livestock animals in countries that my lifestyle
doesn't influence. I consider them whether they have anything to do with my
lifestlye or not, in contrast to you people who can't consider them even on the
rare occasions when your lifestlyle accidentally supports them somewhat like
your contributions to things produced with animal byproducts.

>and ARAs, in
>contrast by not consuming animal products lose that credit.


You get "credit" for contributing to the deaths of wildlife but no credit
for contributing to anything for livestock animals.

>It is a
>stupid, sophistic attempt to turn the tables on vegetarians, and it
>falls flat.


LOL!!!! HILARIOUS! Now try explaining HOW it "falls flat". Go:



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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, Goo wussed:

>On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>
>>>Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh@. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position
>>>>> they're in.
>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their pov
>>>>> Goo. If
>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but
>>>>> they're
>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about
>>>>>>> the animals.
>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but
>>>>>>> then again he
>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he
>>>>>>> doesn't want
>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his lame
>>>>>>> ass. You
>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.
>>>>
>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober and
>>>> more adept at argument. Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact and
>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. Rupert is just afraid to commit
>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.
>>>
>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>is his enemy.

>>
>> Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction
>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.

>
>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>have too much negative value in it.


Negative value caused by what, Goo?

>>If not then he's mentally
>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we all could
>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like yourself is a
>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic animals
>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of positive and
>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any distinction
>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF that's
>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated and can't
>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and wildlife it
>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he can't
>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and humans he
>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...

>
>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;


It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous by
saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one of the
kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and discussed it
with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he "didn't
believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives of negative
value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and incredible
stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's so
different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind, or walks
with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special
ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...

>also bullshit
>about "mentally restricted."


Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying
about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why Goo? If
he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has shown signs
that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain that he's
lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying to make
himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?

>You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid.
>You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
>willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.


You're stupid enough to believe your pet food cow story Goober. If you were
stupid enough to believe it for years even with people pointing out your
mistake, and since you WERE then you still ARE now Goo. It's not like you got
less stupid Goob, even though after years of having it pointed out to you you
finally learned that there ARE NO pet food cattle much less any that are raised
for twelve years just for the purpose. MAYBE you finally learned that, but then
again maybe you still believe in them, Goo....you were stupid enough in the past
and are still as stupid as you were, so maybe you're stupid enough to STILL
believe in them.......

>> Goo lies that I'm a convicted felon. Goo lies that I don't consider quality
>>of life. Goo lies that I don't appreciate life for billions of livestock
>>animals. Goo claims life is not the benefit it so clearly appears to be, yet
>>can't even begin to pretend he has any clue what could prevent it from being one
>>(though he's revealed that he thinks it has something to do with the
>>pre-existent state). Goo claims to oppose the misnomer yet can never produce any
>>of his supposed opposition. Goo has suggested that there are multiple Ruperts
>>yet can't even pretend to explain what he thought he was trying to talk about.
>>Goo has insisted that some livestock are raised for no other reason than to
>>become pet food. Goo has lied that he was a Marine. Goo has lied more than once
>>that he has a PhD. Goo has dishonestly pretended to be dozens of different
>>people, often supporting and praising himselves while doing so. Etc...

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****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, George Plimpton defeated *Goo* easily again:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They do
>>>>>
>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>> both your enemies
>>>>
>>>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>> is his enemy.
>>>
>>> Rupert is bullshitting by

>>
>> What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>> meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>> tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>> explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>> have too much negative value in it.

>
> Negative value caused by what


The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.

Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
tautological bullshit, *Goo*. You can't give it any real meaning. It's
incoherent cracker bullshit.


>
>>> If not then he's mentally
>>> restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was

>>
>> There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again; also bullshit
>> about "mentally restricted."
>>
>> You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid. You
>> are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're willfully
>> even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

>
> Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could


No. There is no "restriction" - LOL!!!! - at all, *Goo*. You are not
looking at "the situation" - LOL!!!! - with any special insight that
others don't have, *Goo*. You don't "appreciate" - LOL!!!! - anything
that others "can't." You're just bullshitting, *Goo* - nothing but
incoherent bullshit.

There is no "restriction" on anyone's thinking, *Goo*, except your own:
you're stupid, you're dishonest, and you can't see what everyone else
sees. You know you're the stupidest dunderhead around, *Goo* - you
*know* it, and we know you know it.


>
>> You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid.
>> You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
>> willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

>
> You're stupid enough to


I'm not stupid, *Goo*, and neither is Rupert. *Everyone* here is far,
far smarter and more intelligent than you. You're stupid, you're
unintelligent, and in fact you have created your own crippling mental
restrictions.

You are the restricted one, *Goo*.


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On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:07:42 -0800, Goo wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:10:52 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, Goo wussed:
>>
>>>On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position
>>>>>>> they're in.
>>>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their pov
>>>>>>> Goo. If
>>>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but
>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about
>>>>>>>>> the animals.
>>>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but
>>>>>>>>> then again he
>>>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he
>>>>>>>>> doesn't want
>>>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his lame
>>>>>>>>> ass. You
>>>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober and
>>>>>> more adept at argument. Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact and
>>>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. Rupert is just afraid to commit
>>>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>>>is his enemy.
>>>>
>>>> Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction
>>>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.
>>>
>>>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>>>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>>>tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>>>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>>>have too much negative value in it.

>>
>> Negative value caused by what, Goo?

>
>The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.
>
>Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
>tautological bullshit, *Goo*. You can't give it any real meaning. It's
>incoherent cracker bullshit.


If you're too stupid to comprehend "the distinction between "lives of
positive value" and "lives of negative value"" then that's why it seems
incoherent to you Goo. You brother Rupert claims to be too stupid to comprehend
it, and now you do too. In the past you've pretended you could comprehend and so
has your brother Goob, but now you both want people to believe you're too
stupid. LOL...you people are amusing.... So Goober, since you both want to
pretend you're too stupid to comprehend, what do you think you gain from that?
LOL...what do you think you gain by acting that clueless and stupid, Goo??? Your
pet food animals idea and your claim that life isn't a benefit both peg you as
extremely stupid Goob. What do you think you gain by acting even MORE stupid,
Goo?

>>>>If not then he's mentally
>>>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we all could
>>>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like yourself is a
>>>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic animals
>>>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of positive and
>>>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any distinction
>>>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF that's
>>>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated and can't
>>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and wildlife it
>>>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he can't
>>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and humans he
>>>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...
>>>
>>>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;

>>
>> It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous by
>>saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one of the
>>kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and discussed it
>>with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he "didn't
>>believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives of negative
>>value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and incredible
>>stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's so
>>different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind, or walks
>>with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special
>>ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...
>>
>>>also bullshit
>>>about "mentally restricted."

>>
>> Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
>>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying

>
>No.


LOL!!! Yes Goob, those are the only two possibilities that there
are...LOL...it's amusing to think you might not even be aware of that.

>There is no "restriction"


He's either horribly restricted or lying, Goo. Those are the only two
alternatives Goob.

>>about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why Goo? If
>>he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has shown signs
>>that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain that he's
>>lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying to make
>>himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?
>>
>>>You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid.
>>>You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
>>>willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

>>
>> You're stupid enough to believe your pet food cow story Goober. If you were
>>stupid enough to believe it for years even with people pointing out your
>>mistake, and since you WERE then you still ARE now Goo. It's not like you got
>>less stupid Goob, even though after years of having it pointed out to you you
>>finally learned that there ARE NO pet food cattle much less any that are raised
>>for twelve years just for the purpose. MAYBE you finally learned that, but then
>>again maybe you still believe in them, Goo....you were stupid enough in the past
>>and are still as stupid as you were, so maybe you're stupid enough to STILL
>>believe in them.......

>
>y


You still DO believe in them afawk Goo.

>ou have created your own crippling mental
>restrictions.


Like what Goob?

>You are the restricted one, Goo.


You now claim to be as restricted as your brother Goo...LOL...so that makes
you the restricted two, not one, Goo. Not only are you now claiming to be as
restricted as your brother but we also have strong evidence that you disagree
with yourself about what you think you believe Goo, like:

"The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
whatever" - Goo

"I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
of consideration." - Goo

"the "getting to experience life" deserves NO
moral consideration, and is given none" - Goo

"I also give the not-yet-begun lives of animals
that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a lot of
consideration" - Goo

"There is no "consideration" to be given." - Goo

"We ARE NOT, and NEVER WERE, talking about whether
existing animals "benefit" from living." - Goo

"Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo

"I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo

"When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
existence we know" - Goo

"I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo

"we don't know if that move improves its welfare" - Goo

>>>> Goo lies that I'm a convicted felon. Goo lies that I don't consider quality
>>>>of life. Goo lies that I don't appreciate life for billions of livestock
>>>>animals. Goo claims life is not the benefit it so clearly appears to be, yet
>>>>can't even begin to pretend he has any clue what could prevent it from being one
>>>>(though he's revealed that he thinks it has something to do with the
>>>>pre-existent state). Goo claims to oppose the misnomer yet can never produce any
>>>>of his supposed opposition. Goo has suggested that there are multiple Ruperts
>>>>yet can't even pretend to explain what he thought he was trying to talk about.
>>>>Goo has insisted that some livestock are raised for no other reason than to
>>>>become pet food. Goo has lied that he was a Marine. Goo has lied more than once
>>>>that he has a PhD. Goo has dishonestly pretended to be dozens of different
>>>>people, often supporting and praising himselves while doing so. Etc...

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On Jan 2, 3:37*pm, dh@. wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:07:42 -0800, Goo wrote:
> >On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:10:52 -0500, dh@. wrote:

>
> >>On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, Goo wussed:

>
> >>>On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, dh@. wrote:

>
> >>>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:

>
> >>>>>Lord Infomouse wrote:
> >>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh@. wrote:

>
> >>>>>>> * * *They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position
> >>>>>>> they're in.
> >>>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their pov
> >>>>>>> Goo. If
> >>>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but
> >>>>>>> they're
> >>>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.

>
> >>>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about
> >>>>>>>>> the animals.
> >>>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but
> >>>>>>>>> then again he
> >>>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he
> >>>>>>>>> doesn't want
> >>>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his lame
> >>>>>>>>> ass. You
> >>>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.

>
> >>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
> >>>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober and
> >>>>>> more adept at argument. *Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact and
> >>>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. *Rupert is just afraid to commit
> >>>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.

>
> >>>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
> >>>>>is his enemy.

>
> >>>> * *Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction
> >>>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.

>
> >>>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
> >>>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
> >>>tautologically. *That is completely true: *all you can offer as
> >>>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
> >>>have too much negative value in it.

>
> >> * *Negative value caused by what, Goo?

>
> >The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.

>
> >Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
> >tautological bullshit, *Goo*. *You can't give it any real meaning. *It's
> >incoherent cracker bullshit.

>
> * * If you're too stupid to comprehend "the distinction between "lives of
> positive value" and "lives of negative value"" then that's why it seems
> incoherent to you Goo. You brother Rupert claims to be too stupid to comprehend
> it, and now you do too. In the past you've pretended you could comprehend and so
> has your brother Goob, but now you both want people to believe you're too
> stupid. LOL...you people are amusing.... So Goober, since you both want to
> pretend you're too stupid to comprehend, what do you think you gain from that?
> LOL...what do you think you gain by acting that clueless and stupid, Goo??? Your
> pet food animals idea and your claim that life isn't a benefit both peg you as
> extremely stupid Goob. What do you think you gain by acting even MORE stupid,
> Goo?
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>>If not then he's mentally
> >>>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we all could
> >>>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like yourself is a
> >>>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic animals
> >>>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of positive and
> >>>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any distinction
> >>>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF that's
> >>>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated and can't
> >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and wildlife it
> >>>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he can't
> >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and humans he
> >>>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...

>
> >>>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;

>
> >> * *It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous by
> >>saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one of the
> >>kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and discussed it
> >>with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he "didn't
> >>believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives of negative
> >>value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and incredible
> >>stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's so
> >>different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind, or walks
> >>with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special
> >>ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...

>
> >>>also bullshit
> >>>about "mentally restricted."

>
> >> * *Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
> >>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying

>
> >No.

>
> * * LOL!!! Yes Goob, those are the only two possibilities that there
> are...LOL...it's amusing to think you might not even be aware of that.
>
> >There is no "restriction"

>
> * * He's either horribly restricted or lying, Goo. Those are the only two
> alternatives Goob.
>
>
>
>
>
> >>about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why Goo? If
> >>he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has shown signs
> >>that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain that he's
> >>lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying to make
> >>himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?

>
> >>>You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. *You are stupid.
> >>>You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
> >>>willfully even more stupid. *You *choose* stupidity.

>
> >> * *You're stupid enough to believe your pet food cow story Goober. If you were
> >>stupid enough to believe it for years even with people pointing out your
> >>mistake, and since you WERE then you still ARE now Goo. It's not like you got
> >>less stupid Goob, even though after years of having it pointed out to you you
> >>finally learned that there ARE NO pet food cattle much less any that are raised
> >>for twelve years just for the purpose. MAYBE you finally learned that, but then
> >>again maybe you still believe in them, Goo....you were stupid enough in the past
> >>and are still as stupid as you were, so maybe you're stupid enough to STILL
> >>believe in them.......

>
> >y

>
> * * You still DO believe in them afawk Goo.
>
> >ou have created your own crippling mental
> >restrictions.

>
> * * Like what Goob?
>
> >You are the restricted one, Goo.

>
> * * You now claim to be as restricted as your brother Goo...LOL...so that makes
> you the restricted two, not one, Goo. Not only are you now claiming to be as
> restricted as your brother but we also have strong evidence that you disagree
> with yourself about what you think you believe Goo, like:
>
> "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
> experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
> whatever" - Goo
>
> "I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
> of consideration." - Goo
>
> "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO
> moral consideration, and is given none" - Goo
>
> "I also give the not-yet-begun lives of animals
> that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a lot of
> consideration" - Goo
>
> "There is no "consideration" to be given." - Goo
>
> "We ARE NOT, and NEVER WERE, talking about whether
> existing animals "benefit" from living." - Goo
>
> "Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo
>
> "I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo
>
> "When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
> existence we know" - Goo
>
> "I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo
>
> "we don't know if that move improves its welfare" - Goo
>
>
>
> >>>> * *Goo lies that I'm a convicted felon. Goo lies that I don't consider quality
> >>>>of life. Goo lies that I don't appreciate life for billions of livestock
> >>>>animals. Goo claims life is not the benefit it so clearly appears to be, yet
> >>>>can't even begin to pretend he has any clue what could prevent it from being one
> >>>>(though he's revealed that he thinks it has something to do with the
> >>>>pre-existent state). Goo claims to oppose the misnomer yet can never produce any
> >>>>of his supposed opposition. Goo has suggested that there are multiple Ruperts
> >>>>yet can't even pretend to explain what he thought he was trying to talk about.
> >>>>Goo has insisted that some livestock are raised for no other reason than to
> >>>>become pet food. Goo has lied that he was a Marine. Goo has lied more than once
> >>>>that he has a PhD. Goo has dishonestly pretended to be dozens of different
> >>>>people, often supporting and praising himselves while doing so. Etc....- Hide quoted text -

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I know of some vegetarians that only eat certain types of meat, for
example, one won't eat pig products because pigs are higher
functioning mammals versus a cow or checken.
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> I know of some vegetarians that only eat certain types of meat, for
> example, one won't eat pig products because pigs are higher
> functioning mammals versus a cow or checken.


Those aren't vegetarians.
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****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, George Plimpton defeated *Goo* easily again:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They do
>>>>>
>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>> both your enemies
>>>>
>>>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>> is his enemy.
>>>
>>> Rupert is bullshitting by

>>
>> What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>> meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>> tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>> explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>> have too much negative value in it.

>
> Negative value caused by what


The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.

Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
tautological bullshit, *Goo*. You can't give it any real meaning. It's
incoherent cracker bullshit.


>
>>> If not then he's mentally
>>> restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was

>>
>> There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again; also bullshit
>> about "mentally restricted."
>>
>> You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid. You
>> are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're willfully
>> even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

>
> Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could


No. There is no "restriction" - LOL!!!! - at all, *Goo*. You are not
looking at "the situation" - LOL!!!! - with any special insight that
others don't have, *Goo*. You don't "appreciate" - LOL!!!! - anything
that others "can't." You're just bullshitting, *Goo* - nothing but
incoherent bullshit.

There is no "restriction" on anyone's thinking, *Goo*, except your own:
you're stupid, you're dishonest, and you can't see what everyone else
sees. You know you're the stupidest dunderhead around, *Goo* - you
*know* it, and we know you know it.


>
>> You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid.
>> You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
>> willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

>
> You're stupid enough to


I'm not stupid, *Goo*, and neither is Rupert. *Everyone* here is far,
far smarter and more intelligent than you. You're stupid, you're
unintelligent, and in fact you have created your own crippling mental
restrictions.

You are the restricted one, *Goo*.
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"Mr. N.A.Cho" > wrote

> >>>>>>> They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position
> >>>>>>> they're in.
> >>>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their pov
> >>>>>>> Goo. If
> >>>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but
> >>>>>>> they're
> >>>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.

>
> >>>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about
> >>>>>>>>> the animals.
> >>>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but
> >>>>>>>>> then again he
> >>>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he
> >>>>>>>>> doesn't want
> >>>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his lame
> >>>>>>>>> ass. You
> >>>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.

>
> >>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
> >>>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober and
> >>>>>> more adept at argument. Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact and
> >>>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. Rupert is just afraid to commit
> >>>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.

>
> >>>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
> >>>>>is his enemy.

>
> >>>> Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction
> >>>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.

>
> >>>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
> >>>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
> >>>tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
> >>>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
> >>>have too much negative value in it.

>
> >> Negative value caused by what, Goo?

>
> >The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.

>
> >Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
> >tautological bullshit, *Goo*. You can't give it any real meaning. It's
> >incoherent cracker bullshit.

>
> If you're too stupid to comprehend "the distinction between "lives of
> positive value" and "lives of negative value"" then that's why it seems
> incoherent to you Goo. You brother Rupert claims to be too stupid to comprehend
> it, and now you do too. In the past you've pretended you could comprehend and so
> has your brother Goob, but now you both want people to believe you're too
> stupid. LOL...you people are amusing.... So Goober, since you both want to
> pretend you're too stupid to comprehend, what do you think you gain from that?
> LOL...what do you think you gain by acting that clueless and stupid, Goo??? Your
> pet food animals idea and your claim that life isn't a benefit both peg you as
> extremely stupid Goob. What do you think you gain by acting even MORE stupid,
> Goo?
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>>If not then he's mentally
> >>>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we all could
> >>>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like yourself is a
> >>>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic animals
> >>>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of positive and
> >>>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any distinction
> >>>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF that's
> >>>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated and can't
> >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and wildlife it
> >>>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he can't
> >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and humans he
> >>>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...

>
> >>>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;

>
> >> It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous by
> >>saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one of the
> >>kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and discussed it
> >>with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he "didn't
> >>believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives of negative
> >>value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and incredible
> >>stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's so
> >>different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind, or walks
> >>with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special
> >>ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...

>
> >>>also bullshit
> >>>about "mentally restricted."

>
> >> Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
> >>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying

>
> >No.

>
> LOL!!! Yes Goob, those are the only two possibilities that there
> are...LOL...it's amusing to think you might not even be aware of that.
>
> >There is no "restriction"

>
> He's either horribly restricted or lying, Goo. Those are the only two
> alternatives Goob.
>
>
>
>
>
> >>about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why Goo? If
> >>he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has shown signs
> >>that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain that he's
> >>lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying to make
> >>himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?

>
> >>>You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid.
> >>>You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
> >>>willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

>
> >> You're stupid enough to believe your pet food cow story Goober. If you were
> >>stupid enough to believe it for years even with people pointing out your
> >>mistake, and since you WERE then you still ARE now Goo. It's not like you got
> >>less stupid Goob, even though after years of having it pointed out to you you
> >>finally learned that there ARE NO pet food cattle much less any that are raised
> >>for twelve years just for the purpose. MAYBE you finally learned that, but then
> >>again maybe you still believe in them, Goo....you were stupid enough in the past
> >>and are still as stupid as you were, so maybe you're stupid enough to STILL
> >>believe in them.......

>
> >y

>
> You still DO believe in them afawk Goo.
>
> >ou have created your own crippling mental
> >restrictions.

>
> Like what Goob?
>
> >You are the restricted one, Goo.

>
> You now claim to be as restricted as your brother Goo...LOL...so that makes
> you the restricted two, not one, Goo. Not only are you now claiming to be as
> restricted as your brother but we also have strong evidence that you disagree
> with yourself about what you think you believe Goo, like:
>
> "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
> experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
> whatever" - Goo
>
> "I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
> of consideration." - Goo
>
> "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO
> moral consideration, and is given none" - Goo
>
> "I also give the not-yet-begun lives of animals
> that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a lot of
> consideration" - Goo
>
> "There is no "consideration" to be given." - Goo
>
> "We ARE NOT, and NEVER WERE, talking about whether
> existing animals "benefit" from living." - Goo
>
> "Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo
>
> "I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo
>
> "When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
> existence we know" - Goo
>
> "I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo
>
> "we don't know if that move improves its welfare" - Goo
>
>
>
> >>>> Goo lies that I'm a convicted felon. Goo lies that I don't consider quality
> >>>>of life. Goo lies that I don't appreciate life for billions of livestock
> >>>>animals. Goo claims life is not the benefit it so clearly appears to be, yet
> >>>>can't even begin to pretend he has any clue what could prevent it from being one
> >>>>(though he's revealed that he thinks it has something to do with the
> >>>>pre-existent state). Goo claims to oppose the misnomer yet can never produce any
> >>>>of his supposed opposition. Goo has suggested that there are multiple Ruperts
> >>>>yet can't even pretend to explain what he thought he was trying to talk about.
> >>>>Goo has insisted that some livestock are raised for no other reason than to
> >>>>become pet food. Goo has lied that he was a Marine. Goo has lied more than once
> >>>>that he has a PhD. Goo has dishonestly pretended to be dozens of different
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<I know of some vegetarians that only eat certain types of meat, for
<example, one won't eat pig products because pigs are higher
<functioning mammals versus a cow or checken.

I know of some that won't eat pussy.

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On Jan 3, 5:36*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" > wrote:
> "Mr. N.A.Cho" > wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > >>>>>>> They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position
> > >>>>>>> they're in.
> > >>>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their pov
> > >>>>>>> Goo. If
> > >>>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but
> > >>>>>>> they're
> > >>>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.

>
> > >>>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about
> > >>>>>>>>> the animals.
> > >>>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but
> > >>>>>>>>> then again he
> > >>>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he
> > >>>>>>>>> doesn't want
> > >>>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his lame
> > >>>>>>>>> ass. You
> > >>>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.

>
> > >>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
> > >>>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober and
> > >>>>>> more adept at argument. Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact and
> > >>>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. Rupert is just afraid to commit
> > >>>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.

>
> > >>>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
> > >>>>>is his enemy.

>
> > >>>> Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction
> > >>>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.

>
> > >>>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
> > >>>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
> > >>>tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
> > >>>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
> > >>>have too much negative value in it.

>
> > >> Negative value caused by what, Goo?

>
> > >The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.

>
> > >Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
> > >tautological bullshit, *Goo*. You can't give it any real meaning. It's
> > >incoherent cracker bullshit.

>
> > If you're too stupid to comprehend "the distinction between "lives of
> > positive value" and "lives of negative value"" then that's why it seems
> > incoherent to you Goo. You brother Rupert claims to be too stupid to comprehend
> > it, and now you do too. In the past you've pretended you could comprehend and so
> > has your brother Goob, but now you both want people to believe you're too
> > stupid. LOL...you people are amusing.... So Goober, since you both want to
> > pretend you're too stupid to comprehend, what do you think you gain from that?
> > LOL...what do you think you gain by acting that clueless and stupid, Goo??? Your
> > pet food animals idea and your claim that life isn't a benefit both peg you as
> > extremely stupid Goob. What do you think you gain by acting even MORE stupid,
> > Goo?

>
> > >>>>If not then he's mentally
> > >>>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we all could
> > >>>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like yourself is a
> > >>>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic animals
> > >>>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of positive and
> > >>>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any distinction
> > >>>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF that's
> > >>>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated and can't
> > >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and wildlife it
> > >>>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he can't
> > >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and humans he
> > >>>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...

>
> > >>>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;

>
> > >> It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous by
> > >>saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one of the
> > >>kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and discussed it
> > >>with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he "didn't
> > >>believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives of negative
> > >>value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and incredible
> > >>stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's so
> > >>different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind, or walks
> > >>with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special
> > >>ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...

>
> > >>>also bullshit
> > >>>about "mentally restricted."

>
> > >> Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
> > >>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying

>
> > >No.

>
> > LOL!!! Yes Goob, those are the only two possibilities that there
> > are...LOL...it's amusing to think you might not even be aware of that.

>
> > >There is no "restriction"

>
> > He's either horribly restricted or lying, Goo. Those are the only two
> > alternatives Goob.

>
> > >>about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why Goo? If
> > >>he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has shown signs
> > >>that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain that he's
> > >>lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying to make
> > >>himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?

>
> > >>>You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid.
> > >>>You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
> > >>>willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

>
> > >> You're stupid enough to believe your pet food cow story Goober. If you were
> > >>stupid enough to believe it for years even with people pointing out your
> > >>mistake, and since you WERE then you still ARE now Goo. It's not like you got
> > >>less stupid Goob, even though after years of having it pointed out to you you
> > >>finally learned that there ARE NO pet food cattle much less any that are raised
> > >>for twelve years just for the purpose. MAYBE you finally learned that, but then
> > >>again maybe you still believe in them, Goo....you were stupid enough in the past
> > >>and are still as stupid as you were, so maybe you're stupid enough to STILL
> > >>believe in them.......

>
> > >y

>
> > You still DO believe in them afawk Goo.

>
> > >ou have created your own crippling mental
> > >restrictions.

>
> > Like what Goob?

>
> > >You are the restricted one, Goo.

>
> > You now claim to be as restricted as your brother Goo...LOL...so that makes
> > you the restricted two, not one, Goo. Not only are you now claiming to be as
> > restricted as your brother but we also have strong evidence that you disagree
> > with yourself about what you think you believe Goo, like:

>
> > "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
> > experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
> > whatever" - Goo

>
> > "I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
> > of consideration." - Goo

>
> > "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO
> > moral consideration, and is given none" - Goo

>
> > "I also give the not-yet-begun lives of animals
> > that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a lot of
> > consideration" - Goo

>
> > "There is no "consideration" to be given." - Goo

>
> > "We ARE NOT, and NEVER WERE, talking about whether
> > existing animals "benefit" from living." - Goo

>
> > "Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo

>
> > "I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo

>
> > "When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
> > existence we know" - Goo

>
> > "I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo

>
> > "we don't know if that move improves its welfare" - Goo

>
> > >>>> Goo lies that I'm a convicted felon. Goo lies that I don't consider quality
> > >>>>of life. Goo lies that I don't appreciate life for billions of livestock
> > >>>>animals. Goo claims life is not the benefit it so clearly appears to be, yet
> > >>>>can't even begin to pretend he has any clue what could prevent it from being one
> > >>>>(though he's revealed that he thinks it has something to do with the
> > >>>>pre-existent state). Goo claims to oppose the misnomer yet can never produce any
> > >>>>of his supposed opposition. Goo has suggested that there are multiple Ruperts
> > >>>>yet can't even pretend to explain what he thought he was trying to talk about.
> > >>>>Goo has insisted that some livestock are raised for no other reason than to
> > >>>>become pet food. Goo has lied that he was a Marine. Goo has lied more than once
> > >>>>that he has a PhD. Goo has dishonestly pretended to be dozens of different
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"Mr. N.A.Cho" > wrote

> > >>>>>>> They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position
> > >>>>>>> they're in.
> > >>>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their pov
> > >>>>>>> Goo. If
> > >>>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but
> > >>>>>>> they're
> > >>>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.

>
> > >>>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about
> > >>>>>>>>> the animals.
> > >>>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but
> > >>>>>>>>> then again he
> > >>>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he
> > >>>>>>>>> doesn't want
> > >>>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his lame
> > >>>>>>>>> ass. You
> > >>>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.

>
> > >>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
> > >>>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober and
> > >>>>>> more adept at argument. Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact and
> > >>>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. Rupert is just afraid to commit
> > >>>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.

>
> > >>>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
> > >>>>>is his enemy.

>
> > >>>> Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction
> > >>>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.

>
> > >>>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
> > >>>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
> > >>>tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
> > >>>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
> > >>>have too much negative value in it.

>
> > >> Negative value caused by what, Goo?

>
> > >The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.

>
> > >Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
> > >tautological bullshit, *Goo*. You can't give it any real meaning. It's
> > >incoherent cracker bullshit.

>
> > If you're too stupid to comprehend "the distinction between "lives of
> > positive value" and "lives of negative value"" then that's why it seems
> > incoherent to you Goo. You brother Rupert claims to be too stupid to comprehend
> > it, and now you do too. In the past you've pretended you could comprehend and so
> > has your brother Goob, but now you both want people to believe you're too
> > stupid. LOL...you people are amusing.... So Goober, since you both want to
> > pretend you're too stupid to comprehend, what do you think you gain from that?
> > LOL...what do you think you gain by acting that clueless and stupid, Goo??? Your
> > pet food animals idea and your claim that life isn't a benefit both peg you as
> > extremely stupid Goob. What do you think you gain by acting even MORE stupid,
> > Goo?

>
> > >>>>If not then he's mentally
> > >>>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we all could
> > >>>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like yourself is a
> > >>>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic animals
> > >>>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of positive and
> > >>>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any distinction
> > >>>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF that's
> > >>>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated and can't
> > >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and wildlife it
> > >>>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he can't
> > >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and humans he
> > >>>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...

>
> > >>>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;

>
> > >> It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous by
> > >>saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one of the
> > >>kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and discussed it
> > >>with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he "didn't
> > >>believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives of negative
> > >>value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and incredible
> > >>stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's so
> > >>different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind, or walks
> > >>with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special
> > >>ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...

>
> > >>>also bullshit
> > >>>about "mentally restricted."

>
> > >> Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
> > >>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying

>
> > >No.

>
> > LOL!!! Yes Goob, those are the only two possibilities that there
> > are...LOL...it's amusing to think you might not even be aware of that.

>
> > >There is no "restriction"

>
> > He's either horribly restricted or lying, Goo. Those are the only two
> > alternatives Goob.

>
> > >>about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why Goo? If
> > >>he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has shown signs
> > >>that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain that he's
> > >>lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying to make
> > >>himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?

>
> > >>>You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid.
> > >>>You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
> > >>>willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

>
> > >> You're stupid enough to believe your pet food cow story Goober. If you were
> > >>stupid enough to believe it for years even with people pointing out your
> > >>mistake, and since you WERE then you still ARE now Goo. It's not like you got
> > >>less stupid Goob, even though after years of having it pointed out to you you
> > >>finally learned that there ARE NO pet food cattle much less any that are raised
> > >>for twelve years just for the purpose. MAYBE you finally learned that, but then
> > >>again maybe you still believe in them, Goo....you were stupid enough in the past
> > >>and are still as stupid as you were, so maybe you're stupid enough to STILL
> > >>believe in them.......

>
> > >y

>
> > You still DO believe in them afawk Goo.

>
> > >ou have created your own crippling mental
> > >restrictions.

>
> > Like what Goob?

>
> > >You are the restricted one, Goo.

>
> > You now claim to be as restricted as your brother Goo...LOL...so that makes
> > you the restricted two, not one, Goo. Not only are you now claiming to be as
> > restricted as your brother but we also have strong evidence that you disagree
> > with yourself about what you think you believe Goo, like:

>
> > "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
> > experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
> > whatever" - Goo

>
> > "I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
> > of consideration." - Goo

>
> > "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO
> > moral consideration, and is given none" - Goo

>
> > "I also give the not-yet-begun lives of animals
> > that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a lot of
> > consideration" - Goo

>
> > "There is no "consideration" to be given." - Goo

>
> > "We ARE NOT, and NEVER WERE, talking about whether
> > existing animals "benefit" from living." - Goo

>
> > "Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo

>
> > "I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo

>
> > "When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
> > existence we know" - Goo

>
> > "I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo

>
> > "we don't know if that move improves its welfare" - Goo

>
> > >>>> Goo lies that I'm a convicted felon. Goo lies that I don't consider quality
> > >>>>of life. Goo lies that I don't appreciate life for billions of livestock
> > >>>>animals. Goo claims life is not the benefit it so clearly appears to be, yet
> > >>>>can't even begin to pretend he has any clue what could prevent it from being one
> > >>>>(though he's revealed that he thinks it has something to do with the
> > >>>>pre-existent state). Goo claims to oppose the misnomer yet can never produce any
> > >>>>of his supposed opposition. Goo has suggested that there are multiple Ruperts
> > >>>>yet can't even pretend to explain what he thought he was trying to talk about.
> > >>>>Goo has insisted that some livestock are raised for no other reason than to
> > >>>>become pet food. Goo has lied that he was a Marine. Goo has lied more than once
> > >>>>that he has a PhD. Goo has dishonestly pretended to be dozens of different
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> <example, one won't eat pig products because pigs are higher
> <functioning mammals versus a cow or checken.
>
> I know of some that won't eat pussy.

<
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On Jan 4, 11:32*am, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" > wrote:
> "Mr. N.A.Cho" > wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > > >>>>>>> They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position
> > > >>>>>>> they're in.
> > > >>>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their pov
> > > >>>>>>> Goo. If
> > > >>>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but
> > > >>>>>>> they're
> > > >>>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.

>
> > > >>>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about
> > > >>>>>>>>> the animals.
> > > >>>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but
> > > >>>>>>>>> then again he
> > > >>>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he
> > > >>>>>>>>> doesn't want
> > > >>>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his lame
> > > >>>>>>>>> ass. You
> > > >>>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.

>
> > > >>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
> > > >>>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober and
> > > >>>>>> more adept at argument. Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact and
> > > >>>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. Rupert is just afraid to commit
> > > >>>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.

>
> > > >>>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
> > > >>>>>is his enemy.

>
> > > >>>> Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction
> > > >>>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.

>
> > > >>>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
> > > >>>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
> > > >>>tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
> > > >>>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
> > > >>>have too much negative value in it.

>
> > > >> Negative value caused by what, Goo?

>
> > > >The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.

>
> > > >Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
> > > >tautological bullshit, *Goo*. You can't give it any real meaning. It's
> > > >incoherent cracker bullshit.

>
> > > If you're too stupid to comprehend "the distinction between "lives of
> > > positive value" and "lives of negative value"" then that's why it seems
> > > incoherent to you Goo. You brother Rupert claims to be too stupid to comprehend
> > > it, and now you do too. In the past you've pretended you could comprehend and so
> > > has your brother Goob, but now you both want people to believe you're too
> > > stupid. LOL...you people are amusing.... So Goober, since you both want to
> > > pretend you're too stupid to comprehend, what do you think you gain from that?
> > > LOL...what do you think you gain by acting that clueless and stupid, Goo??? Your
> > > pet food animals idea and your claim that life isn't a benefit both peg you as
> > > extremely stupid Goob. What do you think you gain by acting even MORE stupid,
> > > Goo?

>
> > > >>>>If not then he's mentally
> > > >>>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we all could
> > > >>>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like yourself is a
> > > >>>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic animals
> > > >>>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of positive and
> > > >>>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any distinction
> > > >>>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF that's
> > > >>>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated and can't
> > > >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and wildlife it
> > > >>>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he can't
> > > >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and humans he
> > > >>>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...

>
> > > >>>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;

>
> > > >> It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous by
> > > >>saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one of the
> > > >>kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and discussed it
> > > >>with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he "didn't
> > > >>believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives of negative
> > > >>value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and incredible
> > > >>stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's so
> > > >>different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind, or walks
> > > >>with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special
> > > >>ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...

>
> > > >>>also bullshit
> > > >>>about "mentally restricted."

>
> > > >> Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
> > > >>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying

>
> > > >No.

>
> > > LOL!!! Yes Goob, those are the only two possibilities that there
> > > are...LOL...it's amusing to think you might not even be aware of that..

>
> > > >There is no "restriction"

>
> > > He's either horribly restricted or lying, Goo. Those are the only two
> > > alternatives Goob.

>
> > > >>about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why Goo? If
> > > >>he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has shown signs
> > > >>that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain that he's
> > > >>lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying to make
> > > >>himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?

>
> > > >>>You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid..
> > > >>>You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
> > > >>>willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

>
> > > >> You're stupid enough to believe your pet food cow story Goober. If you were
> > > >>stupid enough to believe it for years even with people pointing out your
> > > >>mistake, and since you WERE then you still ARE now Goo. It's not like you got
> > > >>less stupid Goob, even though after years of having it pointed out to you you
> > > >>finally learned that there ARE NO pet food cattle much less any that are raised
> > > >>for twelve years just for the purpose. MAYBE you finally learned that, but then
> > > >>again maybe you still believe in them, Goo....you were stupid enough in the past
> > > >>and are still as stupid as you were, so maybe you're stupid enough to STILL
> > > >>believe in them.......

>
> > > >y

>
> > > You still DO believe in them afawk Goo.

>
> > > >ou have created your own crippling mental
> > > >restrictions.

>
> > > Like what Goob?

>
> > > >You are the restricted one, Goo.

>
> > > You now claim to be as restricted as your brother Goo...LOL...so that makes
> > > you the restricted two, not one, Goo. Not only are you now claiming to be as
> > > restricted as your brother but we also have strong evidence that you disagree
> > > with yourself about what you think you believe Goo, like:

>
> > > "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
> > > experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
> > > whatever" - Goo

>
> > > "I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
> > > of consideration." - Goo

>
> > > "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO
> > > moral consideration, and is given none" - Goo

>
> > > "I also give the not-yet-begun lives of animals
> > > that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a lot of
> > > consideration" - Goo

>
> > > "There is no "consideration" to be given." - Goo

>
> > > "We ARE NOT, and NEVER WERE, talking about whether
> > > existing animals "benefit" from living." - Goo

>
> > > "Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo

>
> > > "I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo

>
> > > "When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
> > > existence we know" - Goo

>
> > > "I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo

>
> > > "we don't know if that move improves its welfare" - Goo

>
> > > >>>> Goo lies that I'm a convicted felon. Goo lies that I don't consider quality
> > > >>>>of life. Goo lies that I don't appreciate life for billions of livestock
> > > >>>>animals. Goo claims life is not the benefit it so clearly appears to be, yet
> > > >>>>can't even begin to pretend he has any clue what could prevent it from being one
> > > >>>>(though he's revealed that he thinks it has something to do with the
> > > >>>>pre-existent state). Goo claims to oppose the misnomer yet can never produce any
> > > >>>>of his supposed opposition. Goo has suggested that there are multiple Ruperts
> > > >>>>yet can't even pretend to explain what he thought he was trying to talk about.
> > > >>>>Goo has insisted that some livestock are raised for no other reason than to
> > > >>>>become pet food. Goo has lied that he was a Marine. Goo has lied more than once
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> > <example, one won't eat pig products because pigs are higher
> > <functioning mammals versus a cow or checken.

>
> > I know of some that won't eat pussy.

>
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> <pussy is fish.
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 12:39:39 -0800 (PST), "Mr. N.A.Cho"
> wrote:

>On Jan 2, 3:37*pm, dh@. wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:07:42 -0800, Goo wrote:
>> >On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:10:52 -0500, dh@. wrote:

>>
>> >>On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, Goo wussed:

>>
>> >>>On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, dh@. wrote:

>>
>> >>>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:

>>
>> >>>>>Lord Infomouse wrote:
>> >>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh@. wrote:

>>
>> >>>>>>> * * *They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position
>> >>>>>>> they're in.
>> >>>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their pov
>> >>>>>>> Goo. If
>> >>>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but
>> >>>>>>> they're
>> >>>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.

>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about
>> >>>>>>>>> the animals.
>> >>>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but
>> >>>>>>>>> then again he
>> >>>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he
>> >>>>>>>>> doesn't want
>> >>>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his lame
>> >>>>>>>>> ass. You
>> >>>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.

>>
>> >>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>> >>>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober and
>> >>>>>> more adept at argument. *Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact and
>> >>>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. *Rupert is just afraid to commit
>> >>>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.

>>
>> >>>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>> >>>>>is his enemy.

>>
>> >>>> * *Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction
>> >>>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.

>>
>> >>>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>> >>>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>> >>>tautologically. *That is completely true: *all you can offer as
>> >>>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>> >>>have too much negative value in it.

>>
>> >> * *Negative value caused by what, Goo?

>>
>> >The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.

>>
>> >Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
>> >tautological bullshit, *Goo*. *You can't give it any real meaning. *It's
>> >incoherent cracker bullshit.

>>
>> * * If you're too stupid to comprehend "the distinction between "lives of
>> positive value" and "lives of negative value"" then that's why it seems
>> incoherent to you Goo. You brother Rupert claims to be too stupid to comprehend
>> it, and now you do too. In the past you've pretended you could comprehend and so
>> has your brother Goob, but now you both want people to believe you're too
>> stupid. LOL...you people are amusing.... So Goober, since you both want to
>> pretend you're too stupid to comprehend, what do you think you gain from that?
>> LOL...what do you think you gain by acting that clueless and stupid, Goo??? Your
>> pet food animals idea and your claim that life isn't a benefit both peg you as
>> extremely stupid Goob. What do you think you gain by acting even MORE stupid,
>> Goo?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>>>If not then he's mentally
>> >>>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we all could
>> >>>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like yourself is a
>> >>>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic animals
>> >>>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of positive and
>> >>>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any distinction
>> >>>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF that's
>> >>>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated and can't
>> >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and wildlife it
>> >>>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he can't
>> >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and humans he
>> >>>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...

>>
>> >>>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;

>>
>> >> * *It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous by
>> >>saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one of the
>> >>kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and discussed it
>> >>with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he "didn't
>> >>believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives of negative
>> >>value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and incredible
>> >>stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's so
>> >>different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind, or walks
>> >>with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special
>> >>ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...

>>
>> >>>also bullshit
>> >>>about "mentally restricted."

>>
>> >> * *Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
>> >>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying

>>
>> >No.

>>
>> * * LOL!!! Yes Goob, those are the only two possibilities that there
>> are...LOL...it's amusing to think you might not even be aware of that.
>>
>> >There is no "restriction"

>>
>> * * He's either horribly restricted or lying, Goo. Those are the only two
>> alternatives Goob.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why Goo? If
>> >>he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has shown signs
>> >>that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain that he's
>> >>lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying to make
>> >>himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?

>>
>> >>>You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. *You are stupid.
>> >>>You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
>> >>>willfully even more stupid. *You *choose* stupidity.

>>
>> >> * *You're stupid enough to believe your pet food cow story Goober. If you were
>> >>stupid enough to believe it for years even with people pointing out your
>> >>mistake, and since you WERE then you still ARE now Goo. It's not like you got
>> >>less stupid Goob, even though after years of having it pointed out to you you
>> >>finally learned that there ARE NO pet food cattle much less any that are raised
>> >>for twelve years just for the purpose. MAYBE you finally learned that, but then
>> >>again maybe you still believe in them, Goo....you were stupid enough in the past
>> >>and are still as stupid as you were, so maybe you're stupid enough to STILL
>> >>believe in them.......

>>
>> >y

>>
>> * * You still DO believe in them afawk Goo.
>>
>> >ou have created your own crippling mental
>> >restrictions.

>>
>> * * Like what Goob?
>>
>> >You are the restricted one, Goo.

>>
>> * * You now claim to be as restricted as your brother Goo...LOL...so that makes
>> you the restricted two, not one, Goo. Not only are you now claiming to be as
>> restricted as your brother but we also have strong evidence that you disagree
>> with yourself about what you think you believe Goo, like:
>>
>> "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
>> experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
>> whatever" - Goo
>>
>> "I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
>> of consideration." - Goo
>>
>> "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO
>> moral consideration, and is given none" - Goo
>>
>> "I also give the not-yet-begun lives of animals
>> that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a lot of
>> consideration" - Goo
>>
>> "There is no "consideration" to be given." - Goo
>>
>> "We ARE NOT, and NEVER WERE, talking about whether
>> existing animals "benefit" from living." - Goo
>>
>> "Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo
>>
>> "I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo
>>
>> "When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
>> existence we know" - Goo
>>
>> "I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo
>>
>> "we don't know if that move improves its welfare" - Goo
>>
>>
>>
>> >>>> * *Goo lies that I'm a convicted felon. Goo lies that I don't consider quality
>> >>>>of life. Goo lies that I don't appreciate life for billions of livestock
>> >>>>animals. Goo claims life is not the benefit it so clearly appears to be, yet
>> >>>>can't even begin to pretend he has any clue what could prevent it from being one
>> >>>>(though he's revealed that he thinks it has something to do with the
>> >>>>pre-existent state). Goo claims to oppose the misnomer yet can never produce any
>> >>>>of his supposed opposition. Goo has suggested that there are multiple Ruperts
>> >>>>yet can't even pretend to explain what he thought he was trying to talk about.
>> >>>>Goo has insisted that some livestock are raised for no other reason than to
>> >>>>become pet food. Goo has lied that he was a Marine. Goo has lied more than once
>> >>>>that he has a PhD. Goo has dishonestly pretended to be dozens of different
>> >>>>people, often supporting and praising himselves while doing so. Etc...- Hide quoted text -

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>
>I know of some vegetarians that only eat certain types of meat, for
>example, one won't eat pig products because pigs are higher
>functioning mammals versus a cow or checken.


It depends on the quality of life. Because pigs have an instinct to root for
food it could be frustrating for them to be kept on a concrete floor what won't
allow rooting. However, that instinct could be satisfied by them being able to
root around in their feed troughs. If they're fed dry feed it might not help
with that, but if they're fed a mash or something they can enjoy rooting around
in that could improve the quality of life for them. They also like to wallow in
water to keep themselves cool, but though they can't do that on commercial pig
farms they're sprayed with water or something to keep them cool. They have to be
or they would overheat and die.

Most commercially raised cattle and chickens have decent lives of positive
value imo, except for most commercially raised laying hens who are kept in small
cages that are overly restrictive in more than one way. However, their parents,
broiler chickens and their parents are kept in large cage free open houses and
most of them have decent lives of positive value imo. I encourage you and
everyone to BUY CAGE FREE EGGS! They're more expensive usually by about a
dollar, but buying them contributes to a method that provides more lives of
positive value than negative value for the birds, the opposite of which is true
for most commercial layers who are kept in small cages. Buying cage free eggs is
a way to directly support better animal welfare and show that at least some
people care enough to spend a little extra money to support more animal friendly
farming methods.
Veal calves don't have what most of us would consider a decent life except
for maybe the first few days before they're taken from their mother. After that
they're kept in a small area and fed nothing but milk so they stay iron
deficient and their meat stays pale. Most other cattle have decent lives imo,
and even when beef cattle are taken to the stock yards it seems life should
still be good for the majority of them, since cattle like nothing better than to
eat, and they like eating grain better than anything else. Cattle like to eat
grain so much in fact, that if they accidentally get access to all they want of
it they can and often will eat themselves to death. That being the case,
stockyards don't seem like something that should cause more suffering than
pleasure for cattle imo. Dairy cattle in general seem to have it made, imo. I've
been on several dairy farms, and the cattle on those farms appeared to be well
cared for and have decent lives.
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 05:24:54 -0800 (PST), Rupert >
wrote:

>On 2 Jan., 21:39, "Mr. N.A.Cho" > wrote:
>>
>> I know of some vegetarians that only eat certain types of meat, for
>> example, one won't eat pig products because pigs are higher
>> functioning mammals versus a cow or checken.

>
>Those people are by definition not vegetarian, although you could call them semi-vegetarian.


Then I can call myself semi-vegetarian since I don't eat elephant or zebra.
I also don't eat veal or lamb or goose. Not for ethical reasons though, except
maybe for veal. I have no doubt that some veal calves have lives of positive
value. Maybe most of them do. I hope so. You can't comprehend what that would
mean so you say, but I can and do and hopefully Mr. N.A. Cho can as well. Even
though you can't get it as I said the concept is easy enough that we discussed
it in regards to slavery in the US when I was in grade school, and none of the
kids were unable to comprehend as you claim to be. I remember thinking about it
in regards to the dairy cattle I was around every day at the farm down the road
while I was in fifth or sixth grade, while in huge contrast you'll probably
never be able to do it at any point during your entire life. Something little
grade school children do all the time and then FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES, but
you'll never be able to do it at any point during yours. So you say.


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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:01:16 -0800, Goo wrote:

>dh challenged Goo:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, Goo defeated Goo easily again:
>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, dh challenged Goo:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh challenged Goo:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>>> both your enemies
>>>>>
>>>>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>>> is his enemy.
>>>>
>>>> Rupert is bullshitting by
>>>
>>> What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>>> meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>>> tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>>> explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>>> have too much negative value in it.

>>
>> Negative value caused by what, Goo?

>
>The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict


Explain exactly what cruel treatment you want people to think cause
suffering to livestock animals or it will be known that once again you have no
idea what you think you're trying to talk about, Goo.

>, *Goo*.
>
>Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
>tautological bullshit


What have I told you it means Goob, are you too incoherent to remember
because you're too incoherent to comprehend?

>It's incoherent


ONLY if a person is too stupid to comprehend, Goo. What did I tell you it
means Goober, don't you even know that?
.. . .
>>>> If not then he's mentally
>>>> restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was
>>>
>>> There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again; also bullshit
>>> about "mentally restricted."
>>>
>>> You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid. You
>>> are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're willfully
>>> even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.

>>
>> Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
>>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying

>
>No.


Those are the only two possibilities in this case, Goo.

>There is no "restriction" - LOL!!!! - at all, *Goo*. You are not
>looking at "the situation" - LOL!!!! - with any special insight that
>others don't have,


I've told you that Goob, when I mentioned that no one in my sixth grade
class had a problem with it. It's not that it's any special insight to
appreciate what I point out Goober, it's that it's a horrible mental restriction
to be unable to comprehend. Even being unable to appreciate it if he or you
COULD comprehend would still be a horrible mental restriction, Goo.
.. . .
>your own crippling mental restrictions.


What do you think you're trying to talk about Goo, don't you have any clue
about that either?
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****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:01:16 -0800, George Plimpton defeated *Goo* easily again:
>
>> ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, George Plimpton defeated *Goo* easily again:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They do
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>>>> both your enemies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>>>> is his enemy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rupert is bullshitting by
>>>>
>>>> What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>>>> meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>>>> tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>>>> explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>>>> have too much negative value in it.
>>>
>>> Negative value caused by what

>>
>> The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.

>
> Explain exactly what cruel treatment


Entering fighting cocks and fighting dogs into animal combats, *Goo*.



>>
>> Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
>> tautological bullshit

>
> What have I told you


I have told *you* that it's tautological bullshit, *Goo* - and it is.


>> It's incoherent cracker bullshit.

>
> ONLY if


*ALWAYS*.


>>>>> If not then he's mentally
>>>>> restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was
>>>>
>>>> There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again; also bullshit
>>>> about "mentally restricted."
>>>>
>>>> You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid.


Admit this, *Goo*. Do it now; go: _______________________________________




>>>> You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're
>>>> willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.
>>>
>>> Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could

>>
>> No.There is no "restriction" - LOL!!!! - at all, *Goo*. You are not
>> looking at "the situation" - LOL!!!! - with any special insight that
>> others don't have,

>
> I've told you that, when I mentioned that no one in my sixth grade


LOL!!!!!

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On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:09 -0800, Goo wussed:

>On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:28:25 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:01:16 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>
>>>dh challenged Goo:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, Goo defeated Goo easily again:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, dh challenged Goo:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh challenged Goo:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They do
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>>>>> both your enemies
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>>>>> is his enemy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rupert is bullshitting by
>>>>>
>>>>> What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>>>>> meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>>>>> tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>>>>> explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>>>>> have too much negative value in it.
>>>>
>>>> Negative value caused by what, Goo?
>>>
>>>The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict

>>
>> Explain exactly what cruel treatment you want people to think cause
>>suffering to livestock animals or it will be known that once again you have no
>>idea what you think you're trying to talk about, Goo.

>
>Entering fighting cocks and fighting dogs into animal combats


That doesn't happen to any animals raised for food Goober. You've made it
known that you have no idea what you think you're trying to talk about in
regards to any animals raised for food Goob. Your brother Rupert doesn't either,
nor does your boy "Dutch". LOL...you people sure do SUCK AT THIS, Goo.

>, *Goo*.
>>>, *Goo*.
>>>
>>>Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
>>>tautological bullshit

>>
>> What have I told you it means Goob, are you too incoherent to remember
>>because you're too incoherent to comprehend?

>
>I have told *you*


You just confirmed my suspicion that you're too incoherent to remember
because you're too incoherent to comprehend, Goo.

>> ONLY if a person is too stupid to comprehend, Goo. What did I tell you it
>>means Goober, don't you even know that?
>>. . .
>>>>>> If not then he's mentally
>>>>>> restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was
>>>>>
>>>>> There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again; also bullshit
>>>>> about "mentally restricted."
>>>>>
>>>>> You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid. You
>>>>> are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're willfully
>>>>> even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.
>>>>
>>>> Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
>>>>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying
>>>
>>>No.

>>
>> Those are the only two possibilities in this case, Goo.
>>
>>>There is no "restriction" - LOL!!!! - at all, *Goo*. You are not
>>>looking at "the situation" - LOL!!!! - with any special insight that
>>>others don't have,

>>
>> I've told you that Goob, when I mentioned that no one in my sixth grade
>>class had a problem with it. It's not that it's any special insight to
>>appreciate what I point out Goober, it's that it's a horrible mental restriction
>>to be unable to comprehend. Even being unable to appreciate it if he or you
>>COULD comprehend would still be a horrible mental restriction, Goo.
>>. . .

>
>LOL!!!!!


The fact that you're only capable of hysterics confirms your horrible mental
restriction Goob. LOL! But then if you tried to oppose the facts I pointed out
you would then be confirming your same restriction that way...LOL...

>>>your own crippling mental restrictions.

>>
>> What do you think you're trying to talk about Goo, don't you have any clue
>>about that either?

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****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:09 -0800, George Plimptoneasily defeated *Goo* again:
>
>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:28:25 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:01:16 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>>>
>>>> ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They do
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>>>>>> both your enemies
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>>>>>> is his enemy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rupert is bullshitting by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>>>>>> meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>>>>>> tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>>>>>> explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>>>>>> have too much negative value in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Negative value caused by what
>>>>
>>>> The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.
>>>
>>> Explain exactly what cruel treatment you

>>
>> Entering fighting cocks and fighting dogs into animal combats, *Goo*.

>
> That doesn't happen to


You've done it.

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On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, Goo wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:37 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:09 -0800, Goo wussed:
>>
>>>On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:28:25 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:01:16 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>dh challenged Goo:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, Goo defeated Goo easily again:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, dh challenged Goo:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh challenged Goo:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They do
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>>>>>>> both your enemies
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>>>>>>> is his enemy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rupert is bullshitting by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>>>>>>> meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>>>>>>> tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>>>>>>> explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>>>>>>> have too much negative value in it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Negative value caused by what, Goo?
>>>>>
>>>>>The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict
>>>>
>>>> Explain exactly what cruel treatment you want people to think cause
>>>>suffering to livestock animals or it will be known that once again you have no
>>>>idea what you think you're trying to talk about, Goo.
>>>
>>>Entering fighting cocks and fighting dogs into animal combats

>>
>> That doesn't happen to any animals raised for food Goober. You've made it
>>known that you have no idea what you think you're trying to talk about in
>>regards to any animals raised for food Goob.

>
>You've done it.


You have no clue about the value of life for any animals raised for food
Goo, and much MUCH less in regards to animals who fight for their lives. LOL!
It's hilarious thinking about you trying to think about it Goob, not that you
could even if you tried of course. That's what's funny about it. You can't even
appreciate that there could be significant difference between raising chickens
to fight and raising dogs to fight. You brother can't either Goo. He can't even
think about it in regards to the few grass raised animals he tried pretending
he could do it for:

"I accept that some nonhuman animals who are raised for food on farms
have lives which are such that it is better that they live that life
than that they not live at all" - Rupert

>>Your brother Rupert doesn't either,
>>nor does your boy "Dutch". LOL...you people sure do SUCK AT THIS, Goo.
>>
>>>, *Goo*.
>>>>>, *Goo*.
>>>>>
>>>>>Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is
>>>>>tautological bullshit
>>>>
>>>> What have I told you it means Goob, are you too incoherent to remember
>>>>because you're too incoherent to comprehend?
>>>
>>>I have told *you*

>>
>> You just confirmed my suspicion that you're too incoherent to remember
>>because you're too incoherent to comprehend, Goo.
>>
>>>> ONLY if a person is too stupid to comprehend, Goo. What did I tell you it
>>>>means Goober, don't you even know that?
>>>>. . .
>>>>>>>> If not then he's mentally
>>>>>>>> restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again; also bullshit
>>>>>>> about "mentally restricted."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid. You
>>>>>>> are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're willfully
>>>>>>> even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was
>>>>>>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying
>>>>>
>>>>>No.
>>>>
>>>> Those are the only two possibilities in this case, Goo.
>>>>
>>>>>There is no "restriction" - LOL!!!! - at all, *Goo*. You are not
>>>>>looking at "the situation" - LOL!!!! - with any special insight that
>>>>>others don't have,
>>>>
>>>> I've told you that Goob, when I mentioned that no one in my sixth grade
>>>>class had a problem with it. It's not that it's any special insight to
>>>>appreciate what I point out Goober, it's that it's a horrible mental restriction
>>>>to be unable to comprehend. Even being unable to appreciate it if he or you
>>>>COULD comprehend would still be a horrible mental restriction, Goo.
>>>>. . .
>>>
>>>LOL!!!!!

>>
>> The fact that you're only capable of hysterics confirms your horrible mental
>>restriction Goob. LOL! But then if you tried to oppose the facts I pointed out
>>you would then be confirming your same restriction that way...LOL...
>>
>>>>>your own crippling mental restrictions.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think you're trying to talk about Goo, don't you have any clue
>>>>about that either?



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On 1/9/2013 12:06 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen
year string of futility alive with:

> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:37 -0500, On 1/9/2013 12:06 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:09 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:28:25 -0500, On 1/9/2013 12:06 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:01:16 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/9/2013 12:06 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - presented *NO* challenge and kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, On 1/9/2013 12:06 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - did not "challenge" anyone:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - did not "challenge" anyone:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They do
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>>>>>>>> both your enemies
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>>>>>>>> is his enemy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rupert is bullshitting by
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>>>>>>>> meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>>>>>>>> tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>>>>>>>> explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>>>>>>>> have too much negative value in it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Negative value caused by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Explain exactly what cruel treatment you
>>>>
>>>> Entering fighting cocks and fighting dogs into animal combats, *Goo*.
>>>
>>> That doesn't happen to any animals raised for

>>
>> You've done it.

>
> You have no clue about the value of life for


The value of life for the animals you have entered into animal combats
is entirely negative.

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On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:23:29 -0800, Goo proved me correct:

>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:06:02 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:37 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:09 -0800, Goo wussed:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:28:25 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:01:16 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>dh challenged Goo:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, Goo defeated Goo easily again:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, dh challenged Goo:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh challenged Goo:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They do
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>>>>>>>>> both your enemies
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>>>>>>>>> is his enemy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rupert is bullshitting by
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>>>>>>>>> meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>>>>>>>>> tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>>>>>>>>> explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>>>>>>>>> have too much negative value in it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Negative value caused by what, Goo?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Explain exactly what cruel treatment you want people to think cause
>>>>>>suffering to livestock animals or it will be known that once again you have no
>>>>>>idea what you think you're trying to talk about, Goo.
>>>>>
>>>>>Entering fighting cocks and fighting dogs into animal combats
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't happen to any animals raised for food Goober. You've made it
>>>>known that you have no idea what you think you're trying to talk about in
>>>>regards to any animals raised for food Goob.
>>>
>>>You've done it.

>>
>> You have no clue about the value of life for any animals raised for food
>>Goo, and much MUCH less in regards to animals who fight for their lives. LOL!
>>It's hilarious thinking about you trying to think about it Goob, not that you
>>could even if you tried of course. That's what's funny about it.

>
>The value of life for the animals you have entered into animal combats
>is entirely negative.


LOL!!! You proved me correct, Goo.

>>You can't even
>>appreciate that there could be significant difference between raising chickens
>>to fight and raising dogs to fight. You brother can't either Goo. He can't even
>>think about it in regards to the few grass raised animals he tried pretending
>>he could do it for:
>>
>>"I accept that some nonhuman animals who are raised for food on farms
>>have lives which are such that it is better that they live that life
>>than that they not live at all" - Rupert
>>
>>>>Your brother Rupert doesn't either,
>>>>nor does your boy "Dutch". LOL...you people sure do SUCK AT THIS, Goo.


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On 1/10/2013 12:21 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his
fourteen year string of futility alive with:

> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:23:29 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>
>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:06:02 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:37 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:09 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:28:25 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:01:16 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive and presented *no* challenge with:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, George Plimpton easily defeated *Goo* again:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lord Infomouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both your enemies
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing
>>>>>>>>>>>> is his enemy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rupert is bullshitting by
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent
>>>>>>>>>> meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit
>>>>>>>>>> tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as
>>>>>>>>>> explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> have too much negative value in it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Negative value caused by what
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Explain exactly what cruel treatment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Entering fighting cocks and fighting dogs into animal combats, *Goo*.
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't happen to
>>>>
>>>> You've done it.
>>>
>>> You have no clue about the value of life for

>>
>> The value of life for the animals you have entered into animal combats
>> is entirely negative.

>
> You proved me


....to be a cruelty-inflicting dumb cracker liar, *Goo*.
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