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On 3/18/2012 11:07 PM, Rupert wrote:
On Mar 19, 6:13 am, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 8:09 PM, Rupert wrote:









On Mar 18, 6:16 pm, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 2:33 am, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 8:00 pm, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and


There isn't any such authentic desire. It's really all about the ego
and self-image of the so-called "vegan".


This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.


No, it doesn't. You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
own ego gratification and self-exaltation.


How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself


Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.


I don't.


You do.


Why do you think that?


Why do you ask pointless questions?

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On Mar 19, 7:15*am, George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:07 PM, Rupert wrote:









On Mar 19, 6:13 am, George *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 8:09 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 6:16 pm, George * *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 2:33 am, George * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 8:00 pm, George * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George * * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George * * * * * *wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and


There isn't any such authentic desire. *It's really all about the ego
and self-image of the so-called "vegan".


This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.


No, it doesn't. *You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
own ego gratification and self-exaltation.


How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself


Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.


I don't.


You do.


Why do you think that?


Why do you ask pointless questions?


I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.
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On 3/18/2012 11:37 PM, Rupert wrote:
On Mar 19, 7:15 am, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:07 PM, Rupert wrote:









On Mar 19, 6:13 am, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 8:09 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 6:16 pm, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 2:33 am, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 8:00 pm, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and


There isn't any such authentic desire. It's really all about the ego
and self-image of the so-called "vegan".


This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.


No, it doesn't. You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
own ego gratification and self-exaltation.


How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself


Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.


I don't.


You do.


Why do you think that?


Why do you ask pointless questions?


I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.


Really?
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On Mar 19, 4:29*pm, George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:37 PM, Rupert wrote:









On Mar 19, 7:15 am, George *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:07 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 19, 6:13 am, George * *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 8:09 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 6:16 pm, George * * *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 2:33 am, George * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 8:00 pm, George * * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George * * * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George * * * * * * *wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and


There isn't any such authentic desire. *It's really all about the ego
and self-image of the so-called "vegan".


This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.


No, it doesn't. *You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
own ego gratification and self-exaltation.


How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself


Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.


I don't.


You do.


Why do you think that?


Why do you ask pointless questions?


I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.


Really?


Yes.
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On 3/19/2012 9:39 AM, Rupert wrote:
On Mar 19, 4:29 pm, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:37 PM, Rupert wrote:









On Mar 19, 7:15 am, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:07 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 19, 6:13 am, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 8:09 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 6:16 pm, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 2:33 am, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 8:00 pm, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and


There isn't any such authentic desire. It's really all about the ego
and self-image of the so-called "vegan".


This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.


No, it doesn't. You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
own ego gratification and self-exaltation.


How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself


Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.


I don't.


You do.


Why do you think that?


Why do you ask pointless questions?


I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.


Really?


Yes.


Really!?


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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:50:07 -0700, Goo wrote:

On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:12 am, Goo wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


How do you want people to feel that your anti-consideration is superior to
having consideration for lives of positive value for livestock Goob? Rupert
might be able to help you with that, but he doesn't know what it means to have a
life of positive value instead of a life of negative value. The doesn't believe
the distinction between the two different types of situation means anything.
Maybe if you can help him comprehend what the distinction is and how it is
significant, he can help you figure out how refusing to consider lives of
positive value is superior to taking them into consideration.
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:48:14 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:


"Rupert" wrote
On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:

On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously
ugly.

What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?

False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and I don't believe that it involves self-
exaltation and sanctimony.


This issue of collateral death and suffering does not exist in the conscious
awareness of the vast majority of vegans. When it is introduced to them, two
reactions outnumber all others by a wide margin, the first is denial, the
second is 'I'm still doing better than meat eaters'. Concern about the death
and suffering they just became aware of virtually never comes into it, and
certainly not anywhere near to the level of the concern they claim to have
for farmed animals. This is compelling evidence that veganism is primarily
about maintaining a holy image, by the implication that the diet and
lifestyles of most people is tantamount to barbarism. This is the ugly part,
there's almost a Muslim-like zeal to it.


They SHOULD care especially since they try to PRETEND to care, but it's the
same as you and your anticonsideration from my pov, which is even more evidence
to me that you're still an eliminationist never having gotten over it or
probably even coming close...well...maybe you almost kinda sorta tried to get
over it a tiny bit, but that made you feel dirty...
Anyway, **** all that. This is a time when you could possibly help your
brother a bit, because afaik even at this stage in his life poor Rupert STILL
can't comprehend how grass raised beef can sometimes/often involve fewer
wildlife deaths than growing and harvesting soy beans does. Do you think you
could explain it to him in a way that he could learn to comprehend at least one
example? Or do you think that for some reason his brain is physically unable to
accept much less appreciate those particular situations?
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On 3/19/2012 12:17 PM, ****wit bullshitted pointlessly:

It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.

What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


How do you want people to feel that your anti-consideration


No such thing as "anti-consideration", ****wit, you 13-year-long loser.
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:12:54 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:

It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


"People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans"." - Goo

""vegans" are interested in their influence on animals,
****wit. They want everyone to be "vegan", which would
mean no animals raised for food and other products. That's
an influence, whether you like it or not." - Goo

logically one MUST conclude that not raising them in the first place is the
ethically superior choice." - Goo

""Veg*nism" certainly doesn't harm any living farm animals.
And if everyone adopted "veg*nism", no farm animals would
live in bad conditions." - Goo

you MUST believe that it makes moral sense not
to raise the animals as the only way to prevent the harm that
results from killing them." - Goo

"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo

""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of
their deaths" - Goo

"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
of the animals erases all of it." - Goo

"Humans could change it. They could change it by ending it." - Goo

"There is no "selfishness" involved in wanting farm animals not to
exist as a step towards creating a more just world." - Goo
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[email protected] wrote in message ...
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:48:14 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:


"Rupert" wrote
On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:

On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously
ugly.

What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?

False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.

I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and I don't believe that it involves self-
exaltation and sanctimony.


This issue of collateral death and suffering does not exist in the
conscious
awareness of the vast majority of vegans. When it is introduced to them,
two
reactions outnumber all others by a wide margin, the first is denial, the
second is 'I'm still doing better than meat eaters'. Concern about the
death
and suffering they just became aware of virtually never comes into it, and
certainly not anywhere near to the level of the concern they claim to have
for farmed animals. This is compelling evidence that veganism is primarily
about maintaining a holy image, by the implication that the diet and
lifestyles of most people is tantamount to barbarism. This is the ugly
part,
there's almost a Muslim-like zeal to it.


They SHOULD care especially since they try to PRETEND to care, but it's
the
same as you and your anticonsideration from my pov,


Its not the same, because your so-called "consideration" is self-serving
prattle, similar in many ways to the self-serving prattle that vegans spew.

which is even more evidence
to me that you're still an eliminationist never having gotten over it or
probably even coming close...well...maybe you almost kinda sorta tried to
get
over it a tiny bit, but that made you feel dirty...
Anyway, **** all that. This is a time when you could possibly help your
brother a bit, because afaik even at this stage in his life poor Rupert
STILL
can't comprehend how grass raised beef can sometimes/often involve fewer
wildlife deaths than growing and harvesting soy beans does. Do you think
you
could explain it to him in a way that he could learn to comprehend at
least one
example? Or do you think that for some reason his brain is physically
unable to
accept much less appreciate those particular situations?


As I recall he has admitted that it is plausible.





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Goo - ****wit David Harrison, bestiality practitioner - blabbered:

On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:12:54 -0700, George wrote:

It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


Below are all true.



"People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans"." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton

""vegans" are interested in their influence on animals,
****wit. They want everyone to be "vegan", which would
mean no animals raised for food and other products. That's
an influence, whether you like it or not." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton

logically one MUST conclude that not raising them in the first place is the
ethically superior choice." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton

""Veg*nism" certainly doesn't harm any living farm animals.
And if everyone adopted "veg*nism", no farm animals would
live in bad conditions." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton

you MUST believe that it makes moral sense not
to raise the animals as the only way to prevent the harm that
results from killing them." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton

"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Prof. Geo. Plimpton

""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of
their deaths" - Prof. Geo. Plimpton

"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
of the animals erases all of it." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton

"Humans could change it. They could change it by ending it." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton

"There is no "selfishness" involved in wanting farm animals not to
exist as a step towards creating a more just world." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton


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On Mar 19, 7:27*pm, George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/19/2012 9:39 AM, Rupert wrote:









On Mar 19, 4:29 pm, George *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:37 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 19, 7:15 am, George * *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:07 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 19, 6:13 am, George * * *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 8:09 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 6:16 pm, George * * * *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 2:33 am, George * * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 8:00 pm, George * * * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George * * * * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George * * * * * * * *wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and


There isn't any such authentic desire. *It's really all about the ego
and self-image of the so-called "vegan".


This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.


No, it doesn't. *You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
own ego gratification and self-exaltation.


How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself


Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.


I don't.


You do.


Why do you think that?


Why do you ask pointless questions?


I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.


Really?


Yes.


Really!?


Yes. Do you perhaps have some alternative explanation in mind?
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On 3/19/2012 10:31 PM, Rupert wrote:
On Mar 19, 7:27 pm, George wrote:
On 3/19/2012 9:39 AM, Rupert wrote:









On Mar 19, 4:29 pm, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:37 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 19, 7:15 am, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:07 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 19, 6:13 am, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 8:09 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 6:16 pm, George wrote:
On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 2:33 am, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 8:00 pm, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George wrote:
On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and


There isn't any such authentic desire. It's really all about the ego
and self-image of the so-called "vegan".


This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.


No, it doesn't. You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
own ego gratification and self-exaltation.


How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself


Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.


I don't.


You do.


Why do you think that?


Why do you ask pointless questions?


I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.


Really?


Yes.


Really!?


Yes. Do you perhaps have some alternative explanation in mind?


Yes.
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On Mar 20, 4:13*pm, George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/19/2012 10:31 PM, Rupert wrote:









On Mar 19, 7:27 pm, George *wrote:
On 3/19/2012 9:39 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 19, 4:29 pm, George * *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:37 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 19, 7:15 am, George * * *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 11:07 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 19, 6:13 am, George * * * *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 8:09 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 6:16 pm, George * * * * *wrote:
On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 18, 2:33 am, George * * * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 8:00 pm, George * * * * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George * * * * * * * *wrote:
On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:


On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George * * * * * * * * *wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and


There isn't any such authentic desire. *It's really all about the ego
and self-image of the so-called "vegan".


This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.


No, it doesn't. *You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
own ego gratification and self-exaltation.


How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself


Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.


I don't.


You do.


Why do you think that?


Why do you ask pointless questions?


I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.


Really?


Yes.


Really!?


Yes. Do you perhaps have some alternative explanation in mind?


Yes.


You don't seem very willing to share your thoughts with me at the
moment.
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On 3/20/2012 8:44 AM, Rupert wrote:
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On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George wrote:
It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.


What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?


False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
exaltation and sanctimony.


I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
is inherently ugly, and


There isn't any such authentic desire. It's really all about the ego
and self-image of the so-called "vegan".


This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.


No, it doesn't. You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
own ego gratification and self-exaltation.


How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself


Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.


I don't.


You do.


Why do you think that?


Why do you ask pointless questions?


I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.


Really?


Yes.


Really!?


Yes. Do you perhaps have some alternative explanation in mind?


Yes.


You don't seem very willing to share your thoughts with me at the
moment.


You didn't ask me to share them - you just asked me if I had any.


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