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Where Turkey Is The Guest, Not The Entree
Where Turkey Is The Guest, Not The Entree
By Emma Jacobs http://innovationtrail.org/people/emma-jacobs NPR Wednesday, November 23, 2011 Listen to the Story All Things Considered [2 min 47 sec] Add to Playlist Download http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/a...tc_16.mp3?dl=1 Transcript http://www.npr.org/templates/transcr...yId=142594442* [Caption] Isabella Colbdorf feeds salad to a turkey at this year's Feeding of the Turkeys ceremony in Watkins Glen, in upstate New York, on Nov. 20, 2011. View image he http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2011...322066361&s=51 Most people think of turkeys as the centerpiece of the Thanksgiving meal. But at one farm, the turkeys are the guests. At the 26th annual Feeding of the Turkeys ceremony in Watkins Glen, in upstate New York, a line of turkeys come walking out the door of the barn. They stroll towards long low tables set up on the lawn, with scarlet tablecloths and seasonal squash centerpieces. There, a feast awaits. There's pumpkin pie topped with cranberry, and platters of green salad -- hold the dressing. The spread is surrounded by a crowd of spectators. "Hi sweetheart, Mommy's here," Jamie Cohen says to one of the birds. She's named her Velma. Cohen lives in Baltimore, and drives five hours one way to attend the feast. She has sponsored one of the diners for years. Her chosen bird died of natural causes last winter. (It costs a one-time fee of $30 to sponsor a bird. http://www.adoptaturkey.org/ ) So she's picked out a new brown bird. "I wanted to pick out a new turkey and she's as sweet as she can be, loves to be petted, loves to be kissed and held," Cohen says. As you might have guessed, Cohen doesn't serve up turkey at her Thanksgiving meal. "We don't want to eat them," Cohen says. "They're no different than dogs and cats. They feel pleasure and pain." The turkey feast is hosted by the Farm Sanctuary http://www.farmsanctuary.org/ in Watkins Glen. Susie Coston, the Sanctuary's manager, says she wants to show people how to honor the birds that are normally part of Thanksgiving dinner. "One of the things we try to do is to let people really meet them," Coston says. "They all have names. And they all have personalities. And they all have friendships, and we want people to see them for who they are." Most of the turkeys chow down on their dishes. There's one human VIP at the meal: Seth Tibbot, who created the Tofurky. http://www.tofurky.com/ That's exactly what it sounds like - - a "turkey" made out of tofu. He says Tofurkys will be on about 350,000 tables this holiday season. At the end of the meal, Tibbott pets a very stuffed turkey named Elizabeth. "That's how I am, by the way, after Thanksgiving dinner," Tibbot says, looking at the bird. "I get about two steps away and then I'm down on the floor." It's Tibbott's very first time here at the Feeding of the Turkeys. He says it's transformative. "You don't really have face time with turkeys in my line of work." Tibbott says if he had any Tofurky on him, he would give the birds a nibble. But he's not sure they would eat it. Tags: turkey, Thanksgiving, agriculture, Food More at: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/201...ee?ft=1&f=1001 Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi Om Shanti o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article. FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Since newsgroup posts are being removed by forgery by one or more net terrorists, this post may be reposted several times. |
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Where Turkey Is The Guest, Not The Entree
Where Turkey Is The Guest, Not The Entree
By Emma Jacobs http://innovationtrail.org/people/emma-jacobs NPR Wednesday, November 23, 2011 Listen to the Story All Things Considered [2 min 47 sec] Add to Playlist Download http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/a...tc_16.mp3?dl=1 Transcript http://www.npr.org/templates/transcr...yId=142594442* [Caption] Isabella Colbdorf feeds salad to a turkey at this year's Feeding of the Turkeys ceremony in Watkins Glen, in upstate New York, on Nov. 20, 2011. View image he http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2011...322066361&s=51 Most people think of turkeys as the centerpiece of the Thanksgiving meal. But at one farm, the turkeys are the guests. At the 26th annual Feeding of the Turkeys ceremony in Watkins Glen, in upstate New York, a line of turkeys come walking out the door of the barn. They stroll towards long low tables set up on the lawn, with scarlet tablecloths and seasonal squash centerpieces. There, a feast awaits. There's pumpkin pie topped with cranberry, and platters of green salad -- hold the dressing. The spread is surrounded by a crowd of spectators. "Hi sweetheart, Mommy's here," Jamie Cohen says to one of the birds. She's named her Velma. Cohen lives in Baltimore, and drives five hours one way to attend the feast. She has sponsored one of the diners for years. Her chosen bird died of natural causes last winter. (It costs a one-time fee of $30 to sponsor a bird. http://www.adoptaturkey.org/ ) So she's picked out a new brown bird. "I wanted to pick out a new turkey and she's as sweet as she can be, loves to be petted, loves to be kissed and held," Cohen says. As you might have guessed, Cohen doesn't serve up turkey at her Thanksgiving meal. "We don't want to eat them," Cohen says. "They're no different than dogs and cats. They feel pleasure and pain." The turkey feast is hosted by the Farm Sanctuary http://www.farmsanctuary.org/ in Watkins Glen. Susie Coston, the Sanctuary's manager, says she wants to show people how to honor the birds that are normally part of Thanksgiving dinner. "One of the things we try to do is to let people really meet them," Coston says. "They all have names. And they all have personalities. And they all have friendships, and we want people to see them for who they are." Most of the turkeys chow down on their dishes. There's one human VIP at the meal: Seth Tibbot, who created the Tofurky. http://www.tofurky.com/ That's exactly what it sounds like - - a "turkey" made out of tofu. He says Tofurkys will be on about 350,000 tables this holiday season. At the end of the meal, Tibbott pets a very stuffed turkey named Elizabeth. "That's how I am, by the way, after Thanksgiving dinner," Tibbot says, looking at the bird. "I get about two steps away and then I'm down on the floor." It's Tibbott's very first time here at the Feeding of the Turkeys. He says it's transformative. "You don't really have face time with turkeys in my line of work." Tibbott says if he had any Tofurky on him, he would give the birds a nibble. But he's not sure they would eat it. Tags: turkey, Thanksgiving, agriculture, Food More at: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/201...ee?ft=1&f=1001 Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi Om Shanti ================================================== =================== The Keral KalluMallu (V. Bhattathiri) tries his best to be a bully -- telling others what and where to post, where to post and where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about others and stalking them -- but fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"), he is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and heart disease. ================================================== =================== o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article. FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Since newsgroup posts are being removed by forgery by one or more net terrorists, this post may be reposted several times. |
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Where Turkey Is The Guest, Not The Entree
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 19:33:47 GMT, and/or www.mantra.com/jai
(Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote: >Where Turkey Is The Guest, Not The Entree > >By Emma Jacobs >http://innovationtrail.org/people/emma-jacobs >NPR >Wednesday, November 23, 2011 .. . . >"We don't want to eat them," Cohen says. "They're no different than >dogs and cats. They feel pleasure and pain." · Because there are so many different situations involved in the raising of meat animals, it is completely unfair to the animals to think of them all in the same way, as eliminationists do. To think that all of it is cruel, and to think of all animals which are raised for the production of food in the same way, oversimplifies and distorts one's interpretation of the way things really are. Just as it would to think that there is no cruelty or abuse at all. Beef cattle spend nearly their entire lives outside grazing, which is not a bad way to live. Veal are confined to such a degree that they appear to have terrible lives, so there's no reason to think of both groups of animals in the same way. Chickens raised as fryers and broilers, and egg producers who are in a cage free environment--as well as the birds who parent all of them, and the birds who parent battery hens--are raised in houses, but not in cages. The lives of those birds are not bad. Battery hens are confined to cages, and have what appear to be terrible lives, so there is no reason to think of battery hens and the other groups in the same way. · |
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Where Turkey Is The Guest, Not The Entree
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:34:45 GMT, and/or www.mantra.com/jai
(Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote: >On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:25:57 -0800, dh@. wrote: > >> · Because there are so many different situations >>involved in the raising of meat animals, it is completely >>unfair to the animals to think of them all in the same >>way, as eliminationists do. To think that all of it is >>cruel, and to think of all animals which are raised for >>the production of food in the same way, oversimplifies >>and distorts one's interpretation of the way things >>really are. Just as it would to think that there is no >>cruelty or abuse at all. >> >> Beef cattle spend nearly their entire lives outside >>grazing, which is not a bad way to live. Veal are >>confined to such a degree that they appear to have >>terrible lives, so there's no reason to think of both >>groups of animals in the same way. >> Chickens raised as fryers and broilers, and egg >>producers who are in a cage free environment--as well as >>the birds who parent all of them, and the birds who parent >>battery hens--are raised in houses, but not in cages. The >>lives of those birds are not bad. Battery hens are confined >>to cages, and have what appear to be terrible lives, so >>there is no reason to think of battery hens and the other >>groups in the same way. · > >Where Turkey Is The Guest, Not The Entree · Since the animals we raise for food would not be alive if we didn't raise them for that purpose, it's a distortion of reality not to take that fact into consideration whenever we think about the fact that the animals are going to be killed. The animals are not being cheated out of any part of their life by being raised for food, but instead they are experiencing whatever life they get as a result of it. · |
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