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Vegans and Vegetarians, Please Note - Foods Made of Beetles Now Must Say So
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:09:28 GMT, and/or
www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote: >Foods Made of Beetles Now Must Say So > >By Christopher Wanjek >LiveScience's Bad Medicine Columnist >LiveScience >Wednesday, January 12, 2011 .. . . >Yes, vegetarians can breathe a sigh of relief that Red 40 comes from >yummy, all-natural, organic petroleum, not beetles. > >This brings us to the bigger question: Which is worse, natural or >artificial food dyes? · Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does. What they try to avoid are products which provide life (and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have to avoid the following items containing animal by-products in order to be successful: tires, paper, upholstery, floor waxes, glass, water filters, rubber, fertilizer, antifreeze, ceramics, insecticides, insulation, linoleum, plastic, textiles, blood factors, collagen, heparin, insulin, solvents, biodegradable detergents, herbicides, gelatin capsules, adhesive tape, laminated wood products, plywood, paneling, wallpaper and wallpaper paste, cellophane wrap and tape, abrasives, steel ball bearings The meat industry provides life for the animals that it slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume animal products from animals they think are raised in decent ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by being vegan. From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. · |
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Vegans and Vegetarians, Please Note - Foods Made of Beetles NowMust Say So
On 1/20/2011 9:51 AM, dh@. wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:09:28 GMT, and/or > www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote: > >> Foods Made of Beetles Now Must Say So >> >> By Christopher Wanjek >> LiveScience's Bad Medicine Columnist >> LiveScience >> Wednesday, January 12, 2011 > . . . >> Yes, vegetarians can breathe a sigh of relief that Red 40 comes from >> yummy, all-natural, organic petroleum, not beetles. >> >> This brings us to the bigger question: Which is worse, natural or >> artificial food dyes? > > · Vegans contribute to[blah blah blah] "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit to farm animals. |
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If people consume animal products from animals they think are raised in decent ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by being vegan.
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