Eat your soy, boys
 

An article in this morning's Pittsburgh Post Gazette (printed from
Washington Post) touts the benefits of soy for men. The article says
"A growing number of studies suggest that soy has plenty of health
benefits for men -- from lowering cholesterol levels to protecting
against prostate cancer -- and few downsides." Among the downsides are
possible development of female characteristics if you consume
megadoses (> 30 times normal consumption), possible allergic reaction,
and can inhibit protein digestion if eaten raw. In addition to the
prostate benefits, soy can help to improve bone health, lower blood
pressure, lower cholesterol, raise blood triglyceride levels, less
likely to raise blood sugar levels, protect against baldness, and is a
high quality protein for muscle repair.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/04167/331753.stm

Eat your soy, boys
 

Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a thread
discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell you from
personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the nutrition
portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating serum
glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy products
such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the fiber,
or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be superior at
lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.

http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280

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Eat your soy, boys
 

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:35:35 GMT, "Sonos" > wrote:

>Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a thread
>discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell you from
>personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the nutrition
>portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating serum
>glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy products
>such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the fiber,
>or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be superior at
>lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.
>
>http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280


I can;t eat soy.

Eat your soy, boys
 

Sonos wrote:

> Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a thread
> discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell you from
> personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the nutrition
> portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating serum
> glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy products
> such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the fiber,
> or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be superior at
> lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.
>
> http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280

That isn't all soy can do, especially in young boys and even in adult males.
Over-consumption of soy products can lead to feminizing since soy is rich in
phyto-estrogens. There are some studies on such effects of soy.

Rat pups, exposed to high doses of the plant estrogen coumestrol
(found in sunflower seeds and oil and alfalfa sprouts) through
their mother's milk, suffered permanent reproductive problems:
female pups when grown did not ovulate, and males had altered
mounting behavior and fewer ejaculations (2).
[Whitten, P., C. Lewis and F. Naftolin. 1993. A Phytoestrogen
diet induces the premature anovulatory syndrome in lactationally
exposed female rats. Biology of Reproduction 49:1117-21.]

Neonatal and immature rats exposed to coumestrol experienced
estrogen-related responses, such as premature estrous cycles.
Coumestrol also interrupted ovarian cycles in adult female rats
(3).
[Barrett, J. 1996. Phytoestrogens: Friends or Foes?
Environmental Health Perspectives 104:478-82.]

Newborn rats exposed to the phytoestrogen genistein (a compound
found in soy products), experienced altered hormone secretions
and the onset of puberty may have been delayed because female
rats were exposed to the compound as fetuses (3).
[Ibid.]

“In males, levels of 17B-estradiol and testosterone were not
affected, but levels of 3a, 17B- androstanediol glucuronide (a
metabolite of dihydrotestosterone) and dehydroepiandrosterone
sulfate were decreased by 13% and 14%, respectively, after 2-4
weeks of daily soya ingestion.”
[Supported by USPHS CA56273, CA65628, CA45181, John Sealy
Memorial Endowment Fund for Biomedical Research, American
Institute for Cancer Research grant 95B119, and NIH NCRR GCRC
grant M01 RR00073]

All above lifted from:
http://www.cheapbodybuildingsuppleme...estrogen.shtml

Additionally, see:
http://www.t-mag.com/articles/185soy.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/satter6.htm

Eat your soy, boys
 

usual suspect > wrote in message
...
> Sonos wrote:
>
> > Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a
thread
> > discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell you
from
> > personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the
nutrition
> > portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating
serum
> > glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy
products
> > such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the
fiber,
> > or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be superior
at
> > lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.
> >
> > http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280
>
> That isn't all soy can do, especially in young boys and even in adult
males.
> Over-consumption of soy products can lead to feminizing since soy is rich
in
> phyto-estrogens. There are some studies on such effects of soy.
>
Oooh, ducky!

Whine not!

To the tune of the tune:

Moan moan moan went the troll, he,
Then got thrown off the bus.
When his head hit the pavement,
No brain, just a big pile of puss!

Eat your soy, boys
 

"nemo" > wrote in message
...
>
> usual suspect > wrote in message
> ...
> > Sonos wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a
> thread
> > > discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell
you
> from
> > > personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the
> nutrition
> > > portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating
> serum
> > > glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy
> products
> > > such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the
> fiber,
> > > or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be
superior
> at
> > > lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.
> > >
> > > http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280
> >
> > That isn't all soy can do, especially in young boys and even in adult
> males.
> > Over-consumption of soy products can lead to feminizing since soy is
rich
> in
> > phyto-estrogens. There are some studies on such effects of soy.
> >
> Oooh, ducky!
===============
you must be having fun playing with your man-boobs, eh killer?

Eat your soy, boys
 

nemo wrote:
>>>Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a
> thread
>>>discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell you
> from
>>>personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the
> nutrition
>>>portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating
> serum
>>>glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy
> products
>>>such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the
> fiber,
>>>or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be superior
> at
>>>lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.
>>>
>>>http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280
>>
>>That isn't all soy can do, especially in young boys and even in adult
> males.
>>Over-consumption of soy products can lead to feminizing since soy is rich
> in
>>phyto-estrogens. There are some studies on such effects of soy.
>
> Oooh, ducky!

Is that your best response to the studies you snipped (without noting)?

> Whine not!
>
> To the tune of the tune:

I see 36 years of self-imposed dietary imbalance and B12 deficiency has taken
quite a toll on your addled brain, nemo.

<snip prattle>

Eat your soy, boys
 

rick etter wrote:

> "nemo" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>usual suspect > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>Sonos wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a
>>
>>thread
>>
>>>>discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell
>
> you
>
>>from
>>
>>>>personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the
>>
>>nutrition
>>
>>>>portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating
>>
>>serum
>>
>>>>glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy
>>
>>products
>>
>>>>such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the
>>
>>fiber,
>>
>>>>or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be
>
> superior
>
>>at
>>
>>>>lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280
>>>
>>>That isn't all soy can do, especially in young boys and even in adult
>>
>>males.
>>
>>>Over-consumption of soy products can lead to feminizing since soy is
>
> rich
>
>>in
>>
>>>phyto-estrogens. There are some studies on such effects of soy.
>>>
>>
>>Oooh, ducky!
>
> ===============
> you must be having fun playing with your man-boobs, eh killer?

It's finally cured him of kerb-crawling.