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Ignorant little rickky-boy
"rick etter" > wrote in message link.net>...
> "Ron" > wrote in message > om... > > "rick etter" > wrote in message > link.net>... > > > "Laurie" > wrote in message > > > ... > > > > > > > > "rick etter" > wrote in message > > > > hlink.net... > > > > > > > > > > Knock off the bullshit. B12 is available in grasses that are grown > in > > > > > > a manured environment. That means WHEAT you idiot. It was proven > to > > > > > > the government of Canada by a researcher. Also B12 was originally > > > > > > discovered in Canada in wheat, which just happens to be a grass. > > > > > ========================== > > > > re> And you have provided your evedence where? When? that's right, > never! > > > > re> What a fool. > > > > > > I notice you had to snip, wihout annotation, the references I gave to > > > support my contention that plants are not reliable sources of B12. Why > did > > > you do that, lying-larry? Dishonesty, or just plain stupidity? Here, > I'll > > > add it back for you, killer: > > > > > > ======================== > > > here's a veg site that will tell you different fool. > > > http://www.ivu.org/congress/2002/texts/b12.html > > > > > > "...Vegan sources of B12 > > > Claimed sources include: > > > > > > a.. Tempeh (no effect) > > > b.. Nori (adverse effect if dried; neutral effect if raw) > > > c.. Spirulina (probable adverse effect) > > > d.. Klamath lake algae (no demonstrated or likely effect) > > > e.. Barley or wheat grass (no demonstrated or likely effect) > > > f.. Gut bacteria (no effect) > > > g.. Organic vegetables (no or minimal effect) > > > h.. Mushrooms (no or minimal effect) > > > i.. Dirt (little effect) > > > j.. Warm washed carrots (not a chance) > > > k.. Raw vs cooked food (no effect) > > > Practical sources include; > > > > > > a.. Fortified foods > > > b.. Supplements ..." > > > as an added bonus on this site there is this little tidbit of info: > > > "...Overall outcome: lacto-vegetarians, fish-eaters and occasional > > > meat-eaters can expect to live about two years longer than vegans. ..." > > > > > > And remember, this was from a veg site, killer. What a hoot!!! > > > ======================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Evedence? [sic] Maybe you should learn how to spell before making > > > > idiotic claims in public?? Who, indeed, is the fool? > > > ================ > > > I see, as usual, you have nothing, so you have to resort to on-line > spell > > > checker status... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is evidence of B-12 IN plant material. > > > ============== > > > Again, not in quantities that will make a difference in your diet. > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > Mozafar, A. > > > > Enrichment of some B-vitamins in plants with application of organic > > > > fertilizers. > > > > Plant and Soil 167:305-311, 1994. > > > > Organic food suppliers often claim that organic foods grown on soils > with > > > > natural fertilizers have a better nutritional value than foods grown > with > > > > inorganic fertilizers. Although past studies, such as those published > by > > > > Gray and Daniel in 1959 or by Leclerc and colleagues in 1991, have > shown > > > > that organically grown produce had more vitamins, it was unclear if > the > > > > plants synthesized them or got them from the soil. In order to test > the > > > > origins of vitamins in plants, this researcher selected vitamin B12 > for > > > > study. This was because plants cannot manufacture it but > microorganisms > can. > > > > In addition, large amounts of B12 are found in animal manure, a > commonly > > > > used organic fertilizer. This study looked at whether plants, > specifically > > > > soybeans, barley, and spinach, grown on soils amended with pure B12 or > B12 > > > > in manure would have a higher B12 content than plants grown with > inorganic > > > > fertilizers. All plants contained a minimal amount of B12 in the > > > > inorganically fertilized soil. Barley showed a threefold increase of > B12 > in > > > > the harvested grain in both the pure B12 treatment (10.8 ng/g dry > weight) > > > > and the manure treatment (9.1 ng/g dry weight). In spinach leaves, B12 > > > > increased twofold in the manure treatment (17.8 ng/g dry weight) and > 34-fold > > > > in the pure B12 treatment (235 ng/g dry weight). Soybeans had a > similar, > but > > > > not as dramatic trend. In addition, soil samples in fields receiving > manure > > > > over several years contained more B12 than those only receiving > inorganic > > > > fertilizers. These results show that B12 levels can be increased in > > > > organically grown food through the use of manure fertilizers. This is > good > > > > news for vegetarians, who often have trouble getting enough B12 in > their > > > > diets. It is also good news for consumers who buy organic food because > of > > > > its better nutritional value. While this preliminary trial does seem > to > > > > indicate that vitamins can be absorbed from the soil, more studies > should > be > > > > done with other vitamins to confirm these observations. > > > > > > > > ===== > > > LOL What a hoot. Again, there is no reliable source of b12 from > plants. > > > Now, if you want to eat several pounds of spinach a day, every day, be > my > > > quest. Most people, even the loons like you prefer more variety.(hence > the > > > vast import food production you pay for) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, the whole veg*n/B-12 issue is caused by TOXIC CHEMICAL > AGRICULTURE > > > > which kills the microorganisms in the soil that produce the B-12 that > > > > normally would be absorbed into the plants. The simple and > inexpensive > > > > solution would be supplements, and given the horrifically-poor quality > of > > > > commercial produce a vigorous supplementation program should be > seriously > > > > considered by anyone who eats.] > > > ================== > > > And again, the supplements are not 'vegan' by definition. Animals die > to > > > manufacture, package, and transport those little pills to your plate, > > > killer. > > > > > > Here's another little gem for you, lying-larry... > > > "...more than 23 cups of organically grown spinach would have to be > eaten > > > every day in order to meet the adult RDA for vitamin B12..." > > > http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm > > > > > > Again, this is a veg site, stupid. Not something like your money scam > > > parade of idiocy... > > > > > > > > > > > > > *ANYBODY* including the animal food industry can put up a "veg" site > stupid pEtter. > > > ======================== > You ignorant fool. Why not read the site first, before diplaying your > stupidity to the world. ooops, too late.... I suppose you are going to pretend that the only source of Vitamin D is through fortified "food"? .. |
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Ignorant little rickky-boy
"Ron" > wrote in message om... > "rick etter" > wrote in message link.net>... > > "Ron" > wrote in message > > om... > > > "rick etter" > wrote in message > > link.net>... > > > > "Laurie" > wrote in message > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > "rick etter" > wrote in message > > > > > hlink.net... > > > > > > > > > > > > Knock off the bullshit. B12 is available in grasses that are grown > > in > > > > > > > a manured environment. That means WHEAT you idiot. It was proven > > to > > > > > > > the government of Canada by a researcher. Also B12 was originally > > > > > > > discovered in Canada in wheat, which just happens to be a grass. > > > > > > ========================== > > > > > re> And you have provided your evedence where? When? that's right, > > never! > > > > > re> What a fool. > > > > > > > > I notice you had to snip, wihout annotation, the references I gave to > > > > support my contention that plants are not reliable sources of B12. Why > > did > > > > you do that, lying-larry? Dishonesty, or just plain stupidity? Here, > > I'll > > > > add it back for you, killer: > > > > > > > > ======================== > > > > here's a veg site that will tell you different fool. > > > > http://www.ivu.org/congress/2002/texts/b12.html > > > > > > > > "...Vegan sources of B12 > > > > Claimed sources include: > > > > > > > > a.. Tempeh (no effect) > > > > b.. Nori (adverse effect if dried; neutral effect if raw) > > > > c.. Spirulina (probable adverse effect) > > > > d.. Klamath lake algae (no demonstrated or likely effect) > > > > e.. Barley or wheat grass (no demonstrated or likely effect) > > > > f.. Gut bacteria (no effect) > > > > g.. Organic vegetables (no or minimal effect) > > > > h.. Mushrooms (no or minimal effect) > > > > i.. Dirt (little effect) > > > > j.. Warm washed carrots (not a chance) > > > > k.. Raw vs cooked food (no effect) > > > > Practical sources include; > > > > > > > > a.. Fortified foods > > > > b.. Supplements ..." > > > > as an added bonus on this site there is this little tidbit of info: > > > > "...Overall outcome: lacto-vegetarians, fish-eaters and occasional > > > > meat-eaters can expect to live about two years longer than vegans. ...." > > > > > > > > And remember, this was from a veg site, killer. What a hoot!!! > > > > ======================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Evedence? [sic] Maybe you should learn how to spell before making > > > > > idiotic claims in public?? Who, indeed, is the fool? > > > > ================ > > > > I see, as usual, you have nothing, so you have to resort to on-line > > spell > > > > checker status... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is evidence of B-12 IN plant material. > > > > ============== > > > > Again, not in quantities that will make a difference in your diet. > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > Mozafar, A. > > > > > Enrichment of some B-vitamins in plants with application of organic > > > > > fertilizers. > > > > > Plant and Soil 167:305-311, 1994. > > > > > Organic food suppliers often claim that organic foods grown on soils > > with > > > > > natural fertilizers have a better nutritional value than foods grown > > with > > > > > inorganic fertilizers. Although past studies, such as those published > > by > > > > > Gray and Daniel in 1959 or by Leclerc and colleagues in 1991, have > > shown > > > > > that organically grown produce had more vitamins, it was unclear if > > the > > > > > plants synthesized them or got them from the soil. In order to test > > the > > > > > origins of vitamins in plants, this researcher selected vitamin B12 > > for > > > > > study. This was because plants cannot manufacture it but > > microorganisms > > can. > > > > > In addition, large amounts of B12 are found in animal manure, a > > commonly > > > > > used organic fertilizer. This study looked at whether plants, > > specifically > > > > > soybeans, barley, and spinach, grown on soils amended with pure B12 or > > B12 > > > > > in manure would have a higher B12 content than plants grown with > > inorganic > > > > > fertilizers. All plants contained a minimal amount of B12 in the > > > > > inorganically fertilized soil. Barley showed a threefold increase of > > B12 > > in > > > > > the harvested grain in both the pure B12 treatment (10.8 ng/g dry > > weight) > > > > > and the manure treatment (9.1 ng/g dry weight). In spinach leaves, B12 > > > > > increased twofold in the manure treatment (17.8 ng/g dry weight) and > > 34-fold > > > > > in the pure B12 treatment (235 ng/g dry weight). Soybeans had a > > similar, > > but > > > > > not as dramatic trend. In addition, soil samples in fields receiving > > manure > > > > > over several years contained more B12 than those only receiving > > inorganic > > > > > fertilizers. These results show that B12 levels can be increased in > > > > > organically grown food through the use of manure fertilizers. This is > > good > > > > > news for vegetarians, who often have trouble getting enough B12 in > > their > > > > > diets. It is also good news for consumers who buy organic food because > > of > > > > > its better nutritional value. While this preliminary trial does seem > > to > > > > > indicate that vitamins can be absorbed from the soil, more studies > > should > > be > > > > > done with other vitamins to confirm these observations. > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > LOL What a hoot. Again, there is no reliable source of b12 from > > plants. > > > > Now, if you want to eat several pounds of spinach a day, every day, be > > my > > > > quest. Most people, even the loons like you prefer more variety.(hence > > the > > > > vast import food production you pay for) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, the whole veg*n/B-12 issue is caused by TOXIC CHEMICAL > > AGRICULTURE > > > > > which kills the microorganisms in the soil that produce the B-12 that > > > > > normally would be absorbed into the plants. The simple and > > inexpensive > > > > > solution would be supplements, and given the horrifically-poor quality > > of > > > > > commercial produce a vigorous supplementation program should be > > seriously > > > > > considered by anyone who eats.] > > > > ================== > > > > And again, the supplements are not 'vegan' by definition. Animals die > > to > > > > manufacture, package, and transport those little pills to your plate, > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > Here's another little gem for you, lying-larry... > > > > "...more than 23 cups of organically grown spinach would have to be > > eaten > > > > every day in order to meet the adult RDA for vitamin B12..." > > > > http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm > > > > > > > > Again, this is a veg site, stupid. Not something like your money scam > > > > parade of idiocy... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *ANYBODY* including the animal food industry can put up a "veg" site > > stupid pEtter. > > > > > ======================== > > You ignorant fool. Why not read the site first, before diplaying your > > stupidity to the world. ooops, too late.... > > > > I suppose you are going to pretend that the only source of Vitamin D > is through fortified "food"? ========= I notice you are continuing your dodge. Good thing, you've already proven how incrdibly stupid you are. btw, in case your comprehension has diminished to that low a level, you should notice that my discussion has been strickly about b12. But then, strawmen are all you have left, aren't they killer. Now, as to V-d, no, there are other sourcses besides fortified foods., cheese, butter, cream, fish, oysters eggs, liver and sun. ummmm, seems to me only 'fortified' foods would be the thing for vegans, eh fool? http://www.nutristrategy.com/nutrition/vitamind.htm http://health.allrefer.com/health/vi...d-sources.html "...Vegan and vegetarian sources of vitamin D include fortified soymilk, fortified rice milk, and some fortified breakfast cereals..." http://vegweb.com/articles/monique-1013269869.shtml looks like your stupidity shines through again, killer.... > > > . |
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Ignorant little rickky-boy
"rick etter" > wrote in message link.net>...
> "Ron" > wrote in message > om... > > "rick etter" > wrote in message > link.net>... > > > "Ron" > wrote in message > > > om... > > > > "rick etter" > wrote in message > link.net>... > > > > > "Laurie" > wrote in message > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > "rick etter" > wrote in message > > > > > > hlink.net... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knock off the bullshit. B12 is available in grasses that are > grown > in > > > > > > > > a manured environment. That means WHEAT you idiot. It was > proven > to > > > > > > > > the government of Canada by a researcher. Also B12 was > originally > > > > > > > > discovered in Canada in wheat, which just happens to be a > grass. > > > > > > > ========================== > > > > > > re> And you have provided your evedence where? When? that's > right, > never! > > > > > > re> What a fool. > > > > > > > > > > I notice you had to snip, wihout annotation, the references I gave > to > > > > > support my contention that plants are not reliable sources of B12. > Why > did > > > > > you do that, lying-larry? Dishonesty, or just plain stupidity? > Here, > I'll > > > > > add it back for you, killer: > > > > > > > > > > ======================== > > > > > here's a veg site that will tell you different fool. > > > > > http://www.ivu.org/congress/2002/texts/b12.html > > > > > > > > > > "...Vegan sources of B12 > > > > > Claimed sources include: > > > > > > > > > > a.. Tempeh (no effect) > > > > > b.. Nori (adverse effect if dried; neutral effect if raw) > > > > > c.. Spirulina (probable adverse effect) > > > > > d.. Klamath lake algae (no demonstrated or likely effect) > > > > > e.. Barley or wheat grass (no demonstrated or likely effect) > > > > > f.. Gut bacteria (no effect) > > > > > g.. Organic vegetables (no or minimal effect) > > > > > h.. Mushrooms (no or minimal effect) > > > > > i.. Dirt (little effect) > > > > > j.. Warm washed carrots (not a chance) > > > > > k.. Raw vs cooked food (no effect) > > > > > Practical sources include; > > > > > > > > > > a.. Fortified foods > > > > > b.. Supplements ..." > > > > > as an added bonus on this site there is this little tidbit of info: > > > > > "...Overall outcome: lacto-vegetarians, fish-eaters and occasional > > > > > meat-eaters can expect to live about two years longer than vegans. > ..." > > > > > > > > > > And remember, this was from a veg site, killer. What a hoot!!! > > > > > ======================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Evedence? [sic] Maybe you should learn how to spell before > making > > > > > > idiotic claims in public?? Who, indeed, is the fool? > > > > > ================ > > > > > I see, as usual, you have nothing, so you have to resort to on-line > spell > > > > > checker status... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is evidence of B-12 IN plant material. > > > > > ============== > > > > > Again, not in quantities that will make a difference in your diet. > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > Mozafar, A. > > > > > > Enrichment of some B-vitamins in plants with application of > organic > > > > > > fertilizers. > > > > > > Plant and Soil 167:305-311, 1994. > > > > > > Organic food suppliers often claim that organic foods grown on > soils > with > > > > > > natural fertilizers have a better nutritional value than foods > grown > with > > > > > > inorganic fertilizers. Although past studies, such as those > published > by > > > > > > Gray and Daniel in 1959 or by Leclerc and colleagues in 1991, have > shown > > > > > > that organically grown produce had more vitamins, it was unclear > if > the > > > > > > plants synthesized them or got them from the soil. In order to > test > the > > > > > > origins of vitamins in plants, this researcher selected vitamin > B12 > for > > > > > > study. This was because plants cannot manufacture it but > > > microorganisms > > > can. > > > > > > In addition, large amounts of B12 are found in animal manure, a > commonly > > > > > > used organic fertilizer. This study looked at whether plants, > specifically > > > > > > soybeans, barley, and spinach, grown on soils amended with pure > B12 or > B12 > > > > > > in manure would have a higher B12 content than plants grown with > inorganic > > > > > > fertilizers. All plants contained a minimal amount of B12 in the > > > > > > inorganically fertilized soil. Barley showed a threefold increase > of > > > B12 > > > in > > > > > > the harvested grain in both the pure B12 treatment (10.8 ng/g dry > weight) > > > > > > and the manure treatment (9.1 ng/g dry weight). In spinach leaves, > B12 > > > > > > increased twofold in the manure treatment (17.8 ng/g dry weight) > and > 34-fold > > > > > > in the pure B12 treatment (235 ng/g dry weight). Soybeans had a > > > similar, > > > but > > > > > > not as dramatic trend. In addition, soil samples in fields > receiving > manure > > > > > > over several years contained more B12 than those only receiving > inorganic > > > > > > fertilizers. These results show that B12 levels can be increased > in > > > > > > organically grown food through the use of manure fertilizers. This > is > good > > > > > > news for vegetarians, who often have trouble getting enough B12 in > their > > > > > > diets. It is also good news for consumers who buy organic food > because > of > > > > > > its better nutritional value. While this preliminary trial does > seem > to > > > > > > indicate that vitamins can be absorbed from the soil, more studies > > > should > > > be > > > > > > done with other vitamins to confirm these observations. > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > LOL What a hoot. Again, there is no reliable source of b12 from > plants. > > > > > Now, if you want to eat several pounds of spinach a day, every day, > be > my > > > > > quest. Most people, even the loons like you prefer more > variety.(hence > the > > > > > vast import food production you pay for) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, the whole veg*n/B-12 issue is caused by TOXIC CHEMICAL > AGRICULTURE > > > > > > which kills the microorganisms in the soil that produce the B-12 > that > > > > > > normally would be absorbed into the plants. The simple and > inexpensive > > > > > > solution would be supplements, and given the horrifically-poor > quality > of > > > > > > commercial produce a vigorous supplementation program should be > seriously > > > > > > considered by anyone who eats.] > > > > > ================== > > > > > And again, the supplements are not 'vegan' by definition. Animals > die > to > > > > > manufacture, package, and transport those little pills to your > plate, > > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > Here's another little gem for you, lying-larry... > > > > > "...more than 23 cups of organically grown spinach would have to be > eaten > > > > > every day in order to meet the adult RDA for vitamin B12..." > > > > > http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm > > > > > > > > > > Again, this is a veg site, stupid. Not something like your money > scam > > > > > parade of idiocy... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *ANYBODY* including the animal food industry can put up a "veg" site > stupid pEtter. > > > > > > > ======================== > > > You ignorant fool. Why not read the site first, before diplaying your > > > stupidity to the world. ooops, too late.... > > > > > > > > I suppose you are going to pretend that the only source of Vitamin D > > is through fortified "food"? > ========= > I notice you are continuing your dodge. Good thing, you've already proven > how incrdibly stupid you are. > btw, in case your comprehension has diminished to that low a level, you > should notice that my discussion has been strickly about b12. > But then, strawmen are all you have left, aren't they killer. > > Now, as to V-d, no, there are other sourcses besides fortified foods., > cheese, butter, cream, fish, oysters eggs, liver and sun. > ummmm, seems to me only 'fortified' foods would be the thing for vegans, eh > fool? try radishes and lettuce as well. I'll look up more as I get time, but it is clear you wish to promote animal products as being the *only* source for certain nutrients. > http://www.nutristrategy.com/nutrition/vitamind.htm > http://health.allrefer.com/health/vi...d-sources.html > > > "...Vegan and vegetarian sources of vitamin D include fortified soymilk, > fortified rice milk, and some fortified breakfast cereals..." > http://vegweb.com/articles/monique-1013269869.shtml > > > looks like your stupidity shines through again, killer.... > > > > > > . |
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stupid killer, runny-boy
"Ron" > wrote in message om... > "rick etter" > wrote in message link.net>... snippage... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *ANYBODY* including the animal food industry can put up a "veg" site > > stupid pEtter. > > > > > > > > > ======================== > > > > You ignorant fool. Why not read the site first, before diplaying your > > > > stupidity to the world. ooops, too late.... > > > > > > > > > > > > I suppose you are going to pretend that the only source of Vitamin D > > > is through fortified "food"? > > ========= > > I notice you are continuing your dodge. Good thing, you've already proven > > how incrdibly stupid you are. > > btw, in case your comprehension has diminished to that low a level, you > > should notice that my discussion has been strickly about b12. > > But then, strawmen are all you have left, aren't they killer. > > > > Now, as to V-d, no, there are other sourcses besides fortified foods., > > cheese, butter, cream, fish, oysters eggs, liver and sun. > > ummmm, seems to me only 'fortified' foods would be the thing for vegans, eh > > fool? > > > > > > try radishes and lettuce as well. > ================= And your source that tells you that these are reliable sources of Vit. D are? > I'll look up more as I get time, but it is clear you wish to promote > animal products as being the *only* source for certain nutrients. > ===================== Nope, I've never said they are the *only* sources, fool. I keep telling you about suppliments, are you too stupid to read the posts know at all? bviously you're too stupid to understand the sites that I point you to that back up my claim. here, I'll help, again... Vitamin D "...Food Sources: This vitamin is NOT found in vegetables, fruits or cereals. Cod liver oil and fish is the best source for this vitamin as well as Sunshine. For vegetarians butter gives you a supply of this vitamin and there are many artificial sources such as cows milk and soy milk which are often supplemented with Vitamin D. Viosterol is activated ergosteral, and considered to be a source of Vitamin D but without Vitamin A, as is cod liver oil. A and D should be taken together if possible..." http://www.hathayogalesson.com/vitamins.htm "...Vitamin D deficiency is more common in strict vegetarians (who avoid vitamin D-fortified dairy foods),.." http://www.mothernature.com/Library/...cfm/id/2930006 > > > > > > > > http://www.nutristrategy.com/nutrition/vitamind.htm > > http://health.allrefer.com/health/vi...d-sources.html > > > > > > "...Vegan and vegetarian sources of vitamin D include fortified soymilk, > > fortified rice milk, and some fortified breakfast cereals..." > > http://vegweb.com/articles/monique-1013269869.shtml > > ================= Come on fool, dispute what they say! can't do it, huh? > > > > looks like your stupidity shines through again, killer.... > > > > > > > > > . |
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usual suspect and rick etter
WW wrote>
> What an absurd lie! No wonder Tom Billings rips you a > new asshole every time he tears into you. Really? Perhaps you would care to give an example. Billings can't even stand to be in the same list as me - I tore him up quite a few times on ivu-sci, and on that fake raw-food list he and his cronies run. He usually winds up making some excuses about not having enough time to reply. He's done that twice. He thinks the anthropology based paleolithic diet has good science behind it. He even believes that the iron withholding system is an adaptation for humans to eat meat. How inventive. I wonder what he will dream up next? > The UK is about 64% self-sufficient in food, you inept > lying asshole. By value the UK imports about twice as > much food as they export, but they *do* export some > £8.9 BILLION per year. > > http://statistics.defra.gov.uk/esg/quick/agri.asp You keep confusing dead animals, dairy, potatoes and grains as "food". I'm talking about _fresh organic produce_, fruit and veg. It is nearly all imported here. > BTW, Coleman, you ignorant polemical asshole, you can't > even SPELL "facts" or "logic" without help. Get back > to your "vegan" motorcycle webpage, dumbo. If you had a little more intellect, you would see that constantly making these kinds of remarks has no practical value, and it is contrary to the T&Cs of your ISP. 2 good reasons to pack it in. Why are you on this list anyway, you contribute nothing of value. J |
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usual suspect and rick etter
John Coleman wrote:
> WW wrote> > >>What an absurd lie! No wonder Tom Billings rips you a >>new asshole every time he tears into you. > > > Really? Yes. > > >>The UK is about 64% self-sufficient in food, you inept >>lying asshole. By value the UK imports about twice as >>much food as they export, but they *do* export some >>£8.9 BILLION per year. >> >>http://statistics.defra.gov.uk/esg/quick/agri.asp > > > You keep confusing dead animals, dairy, potatoes and grains as "food". Meat, dairy, potatoes and grain unequivocally and unambiguously are food fit for humans. > I'm > talking about _fresh organic produce_, fruit and veg. It is nearly all > imported here. > > >>BTW, Coleman, you ignorant polemical asshole, you can't >>even SPELL "facts" or "logic" without help. Get back >>to your "vegan" motorcycle webpage, dumbo. > > > If you had a little more intellect, you would see that constantly making > these kinds of remarks has no practical value, and it is contrary to the > T&Cs of your ISP. No, it isn't. > 2 good reasons to pack it in. No, and that ignores the best reason to stay: deflating lying "vegans" and other orthorexic loons. |
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usual suspect and rick etter
Orthorexic John Coleman wrote:
<...> >>The UK is about 64% self-sufficient in food, you inept >>lying asshole. By value the UK imports about twice as >>much food as they export, but they *do* export some >>£8.9 BILLION per year. >> >>http://statistics.defra.gov.uk/esg/quick/agri.asp > > You keep confusing dead animals, dairy, potatoes and grains as "food". There's no confusion: that IS food. > I'm > talking about _fresh organic produce_, fruit and veg. It is nearly all > imported here. You can find plenty organic produce from PYOs, farmers' markets, etc. You shop at Tesco and ASDA, so you find mostly stuff from Europe and the US. <...> |
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usual suspect and rick etter
WW>
> Yes. examples of TB demonstrating this intellectual capacity are? > Meat, dairy, potatoes and grain unequivocally and > unambiguously are food fit for humans. as I so often hear "prove it" > No, it isn't. prove you are not breaching your ISPs T&Cs > No, and that ignores the best reason to stay: > deflating lying "vegans" and other orthorexic loons. Can't you get a dirty magazine to provide a cheap thrill for yourself, or aren't you even man enough for that? John C |
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