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Riddle: What am I?
In my life I've gone from bloodfaced carnivore to vegetarian to vegan
to what I am now. I'm trying to figure out the word for what I am now. I don't eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of anything that's alive. Basically, I apply veganism to plants as well (no lettuce, no potatoes, no spices, no sugar, etc.) Is there a catchy name for this dietary niche? I've heard the term "fruitarian" which is pretty close to the mark (although it does sound a little wimpy), but it's still not entirely applicable, since I eat grains and beans. I've also heard of the "Jain" movement which parallels my eating habits closely, but Jainism is more of a spiritual belief than a dietary preference, and I'm not quite ready to accept a new god simply because he/she offers the tastiest menu! You'd never believe how tough it is living with this inability to classify myself. At restaurants I end up wasting 15 minutes trying to explain to the server how I prefer my meal. I mean, it's hard enough convincing some people that beef broth is still beef, y'know? I wish I could just say one word like "vegan" and have everyone understand. Thanks, gang. I eagerly await your gastronomically nomenclative expertise... -EW |
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Riddle: What am I?
There's no riddle. You're a mentally ill asshole.
everwestward wrote: > In my life I've gone from bloodfaced carnivore to vegetarian to vegan > to what I am now. I'm trying to figure out the word for what I am > now. > > I don't eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of > anything that's alive. Basically, I apply veganism to plants as well > (no lettuce, no potatoes, no spices, no sugar, etc.) Is there a > catchy name for this dietary niche? > > I've heard the term "fruitarian" which is pretty close to the mark > (although it does sound a little wimpy), but it's still not entirely > applicable, since I eat grains and beans. I've also heard of the > "Jain" movement which parallels my eating habits closely, but Jainism > is more of a spiritual belief than a dietary preference, and I'm not > quite ready to accept a new god simply because he/she offers the > tastiest menu! > > You'd never believe how tough it is living with this inability to > classify myself. At restaurants I end up wasting 15 minutes trying to > explain to the server how I prefer my meal. I mean, it's hard enough > convincing some people that beef broth is still beef, y'know? I wish > I could just say one word like "vegan" and have everyone understand. > > Thanks, gang. I eagerly await your gastronomically nomenclative > expertise... > > -EW |
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Riddle: What am I?
everwestward wrote:
> In my life I've gone from bloodfaced carnivore Huh? > to vegetarian to vegan > to what I am now. I'm trying to figure out the word for what I am > now. Try: stupid. > I don't eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of > anything that's alive. Basically, I apply veganism to plants as well > (no lettuce, no potatoes, no spices, no sugar, etc.) Is there a > catchy name for this dietary niche? Not really, but there are some psychological terms for it. "Anal retentive" comes to mind. > I've heard the term "fruitarian" which is pretty close to the mark > (although it does sound a little wimpy), So do you. Don't let that stop you. > but it's still not entirely > applicable, since I eat grains and beans. I've also heard of the > "Jain" movement which parallels my eating habits closely, You're not Jainist, you twit. > but Jainism > is more of a spiritual belief than a dietary preference, and I'm not > quite ready to accept a new god simply because he/she offers the > tastiest menu! Don't count on their food being tasty. Jainists forbid the use of any red ingredient because it resembles blood. No tomatoes, berries, watermelon, etc., all because of the shitheaded notion that red equals blood. They also engage in a variety of anal retentive (there's that term again) measures to keep from accidentally stepping on bugs. You're not about to stop moving around at night. You want to be trendy, and going to bed at dusk isn't trendy. > You'd never believe how tough it is living with this inability to > classify myself. No, most of us wouldn't. > At restaurants I end up wasting 15 minutes trying to > explain to the server how I prefer my meal. You should stop eating out and wasting so much of your and waiters' time. Is your peculiar and wacky system so special that you feel you must rob 15 minutes of someone else's life? How does THAT jibe with your extreme views on animals? > I mean, it's hard enough > convincing some people that beef broth is still beef, y'know? You needn't waste so much time of other people. I suspect you only whine to the waiters and waitresses to proseltyze. > I wish > I could just say one word like "vegan" and have everyone understand. They wish they could say one word and make you go away. > Thanks, gang. I eagerly await your gastronomically nomenclative > expertise... FU |
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Riddle: What am I?
I don't usually top-post but I don't want to get involved with what's below.
I think you have a variant of an eating disorder I call "Ethicsia Nervosa". The best single word to characterise you would be something like "bore" or "twit". You didn't ask for advice, but I'd say take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself honestly if you would like someone like you for a friend. Then pull you head out of your ass and try to go back to being a semi-normal human being, before it's too late. "everwestward" > wrote in message m... > In my life I've gone from bloodfaced carnivore to vegetarian to vegan > to what I am now. I'm trying to figure out the word for what I am > now. > > I don't eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of > anything that's alive. Basically, I apply veganism to plants as well > (no lettuce, no potatoes, no spices, no sugar, etc.) Is there a > catchy name for this dietary niche? > > I've heard the term "fruitarian" which is pretty close to the mark > (although it does sound a little wimpy), but it's still not entirely > applicable, since I eat grains and beans. I've also heard of the > "Jain" movement which parallels my eating habits closely, but Jainism > is more of a spiritual belief than a dietary preference, and I'm not > quite ready to accept a new god simply because he/she offers the > tastiest menu! > > You'd never believe how tough it is living with this inability to > classify myself. At restaurants I end up wasting 15 minutes trying to > explain to the server how I prefer my meal. I mean, it's hard enough > convincing some people that beef broth is still beef, y'know? I wish > I could just say one word like "vegan" and have everyone understand. > > Thanks, gang. I eagerly await your gastronomically nomenclative > expertise... > > -EW |
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Riddle: What am I?
Woof Ridge > wrote in message news:<MPG.1a7b3540bf22de5e98972f@localhost>...
> In article >, ps > says... > > > At restaurants I end up wasting 15 minutes trying to > > > explain to the server how I prefer my meal. > > > > You should stop eating out and wasting so much of your and waiters' > > time. > > > > I gotta agree here. Actually, folks, I don't go to restaurants. I was just using this example for the sake of semantics. Sorry, I didn't expect it to be taken so literally. EW |
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Riddle: What am I?
Jonathan Ball > wrote in message hlink.net>...
> There's no riddle. You're a mentally ill asshole. My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. Must be all the dietary impurities. EW |
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Riddle: What am I?
usual suspect > wrote in message >...
> FU My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. Must be all the dietary impurities. EW |
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Riddle: What am I?
everwestward wrote:
>>FU > > > My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. I wasn't being hostile, fruitcake. > Must be all the dietary impurities. What impurities? My diet is much like yours. The main difference between us is I don't let myself be defined by it, much less waste my (and others') time trying to categorize myself. Dutch is right: you're a bore. |
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Riddle: What am I?
"everwestward" > wrote in message om... > Woof Ridge > wrote in message news:<MPG.1a7b3540bf22de5e98972f@localhost>... > > In article >, ps > > says... > > > > At restaurants I end up wasting 15 minutes trying to > > > > explain to the server how I prefer my meal. > > > > > > You should stop eating out and wasting so much of your and waiters' > > > time. > > > > > > > I gotta agree here. > > Actually, folks, I don't go to restaurants. I was just using this > example for the sake of semantics. Sorry, I didn't expect it to be > taken so literally. ==================== No, you lied. Typical vegan loon..... > > EW |
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Riddle: What am I?
usual suspect > wrote in message >...
> I wasn't being hostile, fruitcake. Reminds me of the hilarious Kevin Kline line: "YOU'RE the vulgarian, you ****!" You guys are hilarious. But seriously now (this'll sound like an insult, but I mean it in earnest): get more fiber in your diet. It'll clean you up and make you a sweeter person. :x Have a nice life! |
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Riddle: What am I?
"Dutch" > wrote in message >...
> I don't usually top-post but I don't want to get involved with what's below. > I think you have a variant of an eating disorder I call "Ethicsia Nervosa". > The best single word to characterise you would be something like "bore" or > "twit". Touche' I guess I walked into an ambush here! But someone just advised me that group is frequented by kids just taking a break from your homework. Fair enough; it beats "mailbox baseball" like they did when I was young. Have a nice life! |
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Riddle: What am I?
"everwestward" > wrote in message om... > "Dutch" > wrote in message >... > > > I don't usually top-post but I don't want to get involved with what's below. > > I think you have a variant of an eating disorder I call "Ethicsia Nervosa". > > The best single word to characterise you would be something like "bore" or > > "twit". > > Touche' > I guess I walked into an ambush here! But someone just advised me > that group is frequented by kids just taking a break from your > homework. Fair enough; it beats "mailbox baseball" like they did when > I was young. > > Have a nice life! > Don't worry about the trolls. They attack everyone. Sometimes they have good points, but it's hard to get through the attitude. Re your question, I don't think there are many people who fit strictly into any category, and placing yourself into one can often cause people to make assumptions that aren't true. For instance, my diet can most closely be called vegan, but I am definitely not philosophically a vegan. How many people do I meet every day even know what a vegan is anyway? Even if you were just a vegetarian, how many different kinds of those are there? I've found (not being one that likes to argue every day of my life) is to not say anything that will make people ask. I just don't bring it up when I'm around people I don't know. Most people will pay no attention to what you're doing, and won't notice what you are or are not eating. If you are the type that likes to talk about it, any diet choice requires explanation to the average Joe Blow. Those who are intimately familiar with all the dietary/spiritual paths out there are few and far between. You could always just make up a classification for yourself that you like since you would have to explain yourself anyway. I probably shouldn't make that last suggestion, cause it really opens up the door for the trolls, but you can just skip their posts : ) allyb |
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Riddle: What am I?
"Allyb" > wrote in message ... > > "everwestward" > wrote in message > om... > > "Dutch" > wrote in message > >... > > > > > I don't usually top-post but I don't want to get involved with what's > below. > > > I think you have a variant of an eating disorder I call "Ethicsia > Nervosa". > > > The best single word to characterise you would be something like "bore" > or > > > "twit". > > > > Touche' > > I guess I walked into an ambush here! But someone just advised me > > that group is frequented by kids just taking a break from your > > homework. Fair enough; it beats "mailbox baseball" like they did when > > I was young. > > > > Have a nice life! > > > > Don't worry about the trolls. ================== Troll of course being defined as anybody that post the facts that you, and he cannot refute.... snippage... |
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Riddle: What am I?
everwestward wrote:
> Jonathan Ball > wrote in message hlink.net>... > >>There's no riddle. You're a mentally ill asshole. > > > My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. Nope. I have long experience with assholes like you who see some kind of moral dimension where there actually is none. |
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Riddle: What am I?
everwestward wrote:
> usual suspect > wrote in message >... > > >>FU > > > My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. Must be all the dietary impurities. > You need to come up with some new material. The stuff you're using is stale and moldy. |
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Obsessive compulsive disorder.
"everwestward" > wrote in message m... > In my life I've gone from bloodfaced carnivore to vegetarian to vegan > to what I am now. I'm trying to figure out the word for what I am > now. > > I don't eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of > anything that's alive. Basically, I apply veganism to plants as well > (no lettuce, no potatoes, no spices, no sugar, etc.) Is there a > catchy name for this dietary niche? > > I've heard the term "fruitarian" which is pretty close to the mark > (although it does sound a little wimpy), but it's still not entirely > applicable, since I eat grains and beans. I've also heard of the > "Jain" movement which parallels my eating habits closely, but Jainism > is more of a spiritual belief than a dietary preference, and I'm not > quite ready to accept a new god simply because he/she offers the > tastiest menu! > <snip> This post is not a troll so please accept that it is truly sincere and from an educated perspective. The Jains, in their highest level of devotion, will only consume the water that ground millet is soaked in. That mixture is strained through a rag because they believe that even one celled bacteria are live animals and they want to keep the killing and its negative karma to a minimum. You cannot bring yourself to a place in life where your passing does not injure and kill other living things. That is the cycle of life and has been since the first bacteria were spawned in the primordial soup. The Hunting Dances of the ancients were done achieve a karmic balance when killing and eating other living things. They were thanking the beasts and holding them in the same reverence they held for deity. The animals images permeate the art that the ancients left behind. They understood the cycle of life and lived each day as if it was their last knowing the bugs and beasts will someday eat them too. For all the good intent you have you will never achieve the goal you are trying to reach. |
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Riddle: What am I?
"everwestward" > wrote in message m... > In my life I've gone from bloodfaced carnivore to vegetarian to vegan > to what I am now. I'm trying to figure out the word for what I am > now. > > I don't eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of > anything that's alive. Basically, I apply veganism to plants as well > (no lettuce, no potatoes, no spices, no sugar, etc.) Is there a > catchy name for this dietary niche? > > I've heard the term "fruitarian" which is pretty close to the mark > (although it does sound a little wimpy), but it's still not entirely > applicable, since I eat grains and beans. I've also heard of the > "Jain" movement which parallels my eating habits closely, but Jainism > is more of a spiritual belief than a dietary preference, and I'm not > quite ready to accept a new god simply because he/she offers the > tastiest menu! > > You'd never believe how tough it is living with this inability to > classify myself. At restaurants I end up wasting 15 minutes trying to > explain to the server how I prefer my meal. I mean, it's hard enough > convincing some people that beef broth is still beef, y'know? I wish > I could just say one word like "vegan" and have everyone understand. > > Thanks, gang. I eagerly await your gastronomically nomenclative > expertise... > > -EW Plants don't care if you eat them. They don't have a brain, they don't even have neurons. They interact with their environment to some degree as do all living things but they don't have the "consciousness" that animals do. I think the main ethical concerns about eating plants would be not eating "wildcrafted" herbs and eating plants that don't come from environmentally sensitive areas, etc. if you really care about that. If you want to avoid so many foods though I think its imperative that you consult a nutritionist, and ask them how you can get what you need with what you're willing to eat. They might also be able to help you be able to tell if your current diet will lead to a deficiency or not. -Rubystars |
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Riddle: What am I?
I'm not sure why you don't eat lettuce. Do you know that you can grow leaf
lettuce (red sails is my favorite), and only harvest the outer leaves and it won't kill the plant. You can do the same thing with spinach. With spinach you can give it a serious cutting down and it will come back. You can do this several times and then let it come back and go to seed. If you grow your own potato plants, both regular and sweet potatoes, you can harvest the potatoes without digging up the plant; but maybe you have another reason for not eating them???? Even if you eat nuts, you are eating what could have been another tree. Anyway, that's my take on it. I think that on this planet of duality, everything has to eat something to survive. It's the way the system is set up. I guess that all we can do it live as consciously as possible and make our choices based on what resonates to us on the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual level. The Jains walk around with face masks so they won't kill organisms through the breath; but they're still killing organisms just by walking on the ground. I often wonder if that ever enters their minds. I always wondered why they just didn't do pranayama for hours and hours each day and become breatharians; but I guess it's difficult to do pranayama if you're wearing a mask. :-) Namaste! June |
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Riddle: What am I?
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:22:02 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote: >everwestward wrote: > >> Jonathan Ball > wrote in message hlink.net>... >> >>>There's no riddle. You're a mentally ill asshole. >> >> >> My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. > >Nope. I have long experience with assholes like you >who see some kind of moral dimension where there >actually is none. Some farm animals benefit from farming. Some don't. |
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Riddle: What am I?
Rubystars wrote:
<snip> > If you want to avoid so many foods though I think its imperative that you > consult a nutritionist, Come on. That dork needs a shrink, not a nutritionist. > and ask them > how you can get what you need with what you're willing to eat. They might > also be able to help you be > able to tell if your current diet will lead to a deficiency or not. I can tell the OP that already. So can the servers whose time she wastes everytime she goes out. |
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Riddle: What am I?
"everwestward" > wrote in message m... > In my life I've gone from bloodfaced carnivore to vegetarian to vegan > to what I am now. I'm trying to figure out the word for what I am > now. > > I don't eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of > anything that's alive. Basically, I apply veganism to plants as well > (no lettuce, no potatoes, no spices, no sugar, etc.) Is there a > catchy name for this dietary niche? > > I've heard the term "fruitarian" which is pretty close to the mark > (although it does sound a little wimpy), but it's still not entirely > applicable, since I eat grains and beans. I've also heard of the > "Jain" movement which parallels my eating habits closely, but Jainism > is more of a spiritual belief than a dietary preference, and I'm not > quite ready to accept a new god simply because he/she offers the > tastiest menu! > <snip> This post is not a troll so please accept that it is truly sincere and from an educated perspective. The Jains, in their highest level of devotion, will only consume the water that ground millet is soaked in. That mixture is strained through a rag because they believe that even one celled bacteria are live animals and they want to keep the killing and its negative karma to a minimum. You cannot bring yourself to a place in life where your passing does not injure and kill other living things. That is the cycle of life and has been since the first bacteria were spawned in the primordial soup. The Hunting Dances of the ancients were done achieve a karmic balance when killing and eating other living things. They were thanking the beasts and holding them in the same reverence they held for deity. The animals images permeate the art that the ancients left behind. They understood the cycle of life and lived each day as if it was their last knowing the bugs and beasts will someday eat them too. For all the good intent you have you will never achieve the goal you are trying to reach. |
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Riddle: What am I?
On 23 Jan 2004 06:39:08 -0800, (everwestward) wrote:
>In my life I've gone from bloodfaced carnivore to vegetarian to vegan >to what I am now. I'm trying to figure out the word for what I am >now. > >I don't eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of >anything that's alive. Basically, I apply veganism to plants as well >(no lettuce, no potatoes, no spices, no sugar, etc.) Why not sugar? >Is there a >catchy name for this dietary niche? >I've heard the term "fruitarian" which is pretty close to the mark How can you eat fruit and still not eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of anything that's alive? > >(although it does sound a little wimpy), but it's still not entirely >applicable, since I eat grains and beans. It would seem grains and beans are alive. >I've also heard of the >"Jain" movement which parallels my eating habits closely, but Jainism >is more of a spiritual belief than a dietary preference, and I'm not >quite ready to accept a new god simply because he/she offers the >tastiest menu! > >You'd never believe how tough it is living with this inability to >classify myself. At restaurants I end up wasting 15 minutes trying to >explain to the server how I prefer my meal. I mean, it's hard enough >convincing some people that beef broth is still beef, y'know? I wish >I could just say one word like "vegan" and have everyone understand. · Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of wood and paper products, and roads and all types of buildings, and by their own diet just as everyone else does. What vegans try to avoid are products which provide life (and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have to avoid the following in order to be successful: __________________________________________________ _______ Tires, Surgical sutures, Matches, Soaps, Photographic film, Cosmetics, Shaving cream, Paints, Candles, Crayon/Chalk, Toothpaste, Deodorants, Mouthwash, Paper, Upholstery, Floor waxes, Glass, Water Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer, Antifreeze http://www.aif.org/lvstock.htm ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ __________________________________________________ _______ Ceramics, Insecticides, Insulation, Linoleum, Plastic, Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen, Heparin, Insulin, Pancreatin, Thrombin, Vasopressin, Vitamin B-12, Asphalt, auto and jet lubricants, outboard engine oil, high-performance greases, brake fluid http://www.teachfree.com/student/wow_that_cow.htm ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ __________________________________________________ _______ contact-lens care products, glues for paper and cardboard cartons, bookbinding glue, clarification of wines, Hemostats, sunscreens and sunblocks, dental floss, hairspray, inks, PVC http://www.discover.com/aug_01/featcow.html ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ __________________________________________________ _______ Explosives, Solvents, Industrial Oils, Industrial Lubricants, Stearic Acid, Biodegradable Detergents, Herbicides, Syringes, Gelatin Capsules, Bandage Strips, Combs and Toothbrushes, Emery Boards and Cloth, Adhesive Tape, Laminated Wood Products, Plywood and Paneling, Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane Wrap and Tape, Adhesive Tape, Abrasives, Bone Charcoal for High Grade Steel, Steel Ball Bearings http://www.sheepusa.org/environment/products.shtml ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ The meat industry provides life for the animals that it slaughters, and the animals live and die in it as they do in any other habitat. They also depend on it for their lives like the animals in any other habitat. If people consume animal products from animals they think are raised in decent ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the future. From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get thousands of servings of dairy products. Due to the influence of farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings derived from grass raised cattle. Grass raised cattle products contribute to less wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and decent lives for cattle. · |
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Riddle: What am I?
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:07:52 GMT, "Rubystars" > wrote:
> >"everwestward" > wrote in message om... >> In my life I've gone from bloodfaced carnivore to vegetarian to vegan >> to what I am now. I'm trying to figure out the word for what I am >> now. >> >> I don't eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of >> anything that's alive. Basically, I apply veganism to plants as well >> (no lettuce, no potatoes, no spices, no sugar, etc.) Is there a >> catchy name for this dietary niche? >> >> I've heard the term "fruitarian" which is pretty close to the mark >> (although it does sound a little wimpy), but it's still not entirely >> applicable, since I eat grains and beans. I've also heard of the >> "Jain" movement which parallels my eating habits closely, but Jainism >> is more of a spiritual belief than a dietary preference, and I'm not >> quite ready to accept a new god simply because he/she offers the >> tastiest menu! >> >> You'd never believe how tough it is living with this inability to >> classify myself. At restaurants I end up wasting 15 minutes trying to >> explain to the server how I prefer my meal. I mean, it's hard enough >> convincing some people that beef broth is still beef, y'know? I wish >> I could just say one word like "vegan" and have everyone understand. >> >> Thanks, gang. I eagerly await your gastronomically nomenclative >> expertise... >> >> -EW > >Plants don't care if you eat them. Nor do dead animals. >They don't have a brain, they don't even >have neurons. > >They interact with their environment to some degree as do all living things We're not supposed to consider the lives of animals, so why consider the lives of plants? >but they don't >have the "consciousness" that animals do. Again, nor do dead animals. So feel free to eat them. >I think the main ethical concerns about eating plants would be not eating >"wildcrafted" herbs and >eating plants that don't come from environmentally sensitive areas, etc. if >you really care about that. Interesting in a most disgusting way that you "ethical" eaters never care about your influence on animals, or mention how many are killed in potatoe production vs. rice production, etc. You know what it tells us, even though you still don't believe it. >If you want to avoid so many foods though I think its imperative that you >consult a nutritionist, and ask them >how you can get what you need with what you're willing to eat. They might >also be able to help you be >able to tell if your current diet will lead to a deficiency or not. > >-Rubystars > |
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Riddle: What am I?
Looney June wrote:
<snip> > I always wondered why they just didn't do pranayama for hours and hours each > day and become breatharians; Humans who don't eat tend to starve after a while. Even "breatharians." > but I guess it's difficult to do pranayama if > you're wearing a mask. :-) I meant it when I called you light-headed. > Namaste! You're a spiritual fraud. --- Save a titmouse. Don't eat wheat. |
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Riddle: What am I?
"Jonathan Ball" > wrote in message hlink.net... > There's no riddle at all, ****WIT. You are a ****WIT. > > ****WIT David Harrison wrote: > > > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:22:02 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote: > > > > > >>everwestward wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Jonathan Ball > wrote in message hlink.net>... > >>> > >>> > >>>>There's no riddle. You're a mentally ill asshole. > >>> > >>> > >>>My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. > >> > >>Nope. I have long experience with assholes like you > >>who see some kind of moral dimension where there > >>actually is none. > > > > > > Some farm animals benefit from farming. Some don't. > > No animals benefit from being born, ****WIT. When you > talk (stupidly) about animals benefiting from > "farming", you mean benefiting from being born. NO > animals benefit from being born, ****WIT. Life per se > is not a benefit. > That's why abortion is saving scores from a futile life of drudgery. |
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Riddle: What am I?
"everwestward" > wrote
> "Dutch" > wrote > > > I don't usually top-post but I don't want to get involved with what's below. > > I think you have a variant of an eating disorder I call "Ethicsia Nervosa". > > The best single word to characterise you would be something like "bore" or > > "twit". > > Touche' > I guess I walked into an ambush here! But someone just advised me > that group is frequented by kids just taking a break from your > homework. Fair enough; it beats "mailbox baseball" like they did when > I was young. I'm not kidding around, Mr. Wizard said it best, you're way too obsessed with avoiding killing, it's unhealthy. > Have a nice life! > I am having a very good life, but you will waste a big chuck of yours if you don't get yourself turned around quickly. |
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Riddle: What am I?
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> We're not supposed to consider the lives of animals, > so why consider the lives of plants? You can "consider" till the cows come home, you just can't take ethical credit for the life of a chicken by eating it. |
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Riddle: What am I?
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> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:07:52 GMT, "Rubystars" > wrote: > > >> >>Plants don't care if you eat them. > > > Nor do dead animals. Animals *do* care about being killed though. > > >>They don't have a brain, they don't even >>have neurons. >> >>They interact with their environment to some degree as do all living things > > > We're not supposed to consider the lives of animals, No sensible person "considers" the lives of animals prior to their being born, ****WIT. You think farm animals "ought" to live, that there is some moral value from their "getting to experience life." You are an idiot: there is no moral value from that. >>I think the main ethical concerns about eating plants would be not eating >>"wildcrafted" herbs and >>eating plants that don't come from environmentally sensitive areas, etc. if >>you really care about that. > > > Interesting in a most disgusting way that you "ethical" > eaters never care about your influence on animals, or > mention how many are killed in potatoe Oh, it's ****WIT Quayle now, is it? "Potato", you ****ING moron, not "potatoe". http://weebl.fluent.ltd.uk/toons/17/ > production vs. > rice production, etc. You know what it tells us, even > though you still don't believe it. You don't care about your "influence" on animals, ****WIT, except to cause some of them to live, REGARDLESS of the quality of life. You stupid, ****witted liar. |
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Riddle: What am I?
"everwestward" > wrote in message m... > In my life I've gone from bloodfaced carnivore to vegetarian > to vegan to what I am now. I'm trying to figure out the word > for what I am now. > Is there a catchy name for this dietary niche? Forget the lables, and just do what you do. As there are no meaningful and widely-accepted definitions for the major dietary classifications: vegetarian, vegan, omnivore, ... attempting to imply finer dietry resolution from labels will be a waste of effort. > I don't eat anything that's alive or that's a contiguous part of > anything that's alive. Scavenger? You'd have to come up with a viable definition of what's "alive" and what is not. This is not a trivial exercise. > I've heard the term "fruitarian" which is pretty close to the mark > (although it does sound a little wimpy), but it's still not entirely > applicable, since I eat grains and beans. Grains, nuts, seeds, and beans are fruits, in the botanical sense. "A fruit is a matured ovary. Once the pollen has fertilized the egg cell contained within the ovule, the ovule develops into a seed, and the ovary of the enclosing carpel begins to enlarge and ripen, forming the fruit. This is the botanical definition of a fruit, and is not the same as the popular usage of "fruit". For example, a botanist considers acorns, tomatoes, green beans, and coconuts to be fruits. The individual grains of wheat and rice are also fruits by this definition. By contrast, strawberries are NOT fruits; the individual hard bits on the outside of the strawberry are the matured ovaries, and are properly considered fruits, while the fleshy red portion is actually stem tissue stimulated to growth by the maturing fruits." http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/anthoph...hophytamm.html The problem with not eating things "alive" is that one has difficulty establishing what "alive" means. I.e., are grains, nuts, seeds, beans, legumes, ... "alive", since they can sprout and produce a live plant? If they're dead, they could not produce a living plant. Are they in "suspended animation"? > You'd never believe how tough it is living with this inability to > classify myself. "Classifying" yourself with obscure, idiosyncratic argot won't help, either. Laurie |
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Riddle: What am I?
"everwestward" > wrote in message om... > Jonathan Ball > wrote in message hlink.net>... > > There's no riddle. You're a mentally ill asshole. > My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. Must be all the dietary impurities. Oh, you don't know about Jon-a-thug noBalls? He is arguably the most intentionally-obnoxious of all the hostile, meatarian trolls who haunt the veg*n ng's, hoping to suck innocent newbies into meaningless dialog and then blast them with lies, personal insults, vulgarity, and verbally-violent assaults. Killfile him and the rest of his ilk. Laurie |
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Riddle: What am I?
> wrote in message ... > We're not supposed to consider the lives of animals, > so why consider the lives of plants? Why not consider the biological equipment and digestive biochemistry instead of arbitrary and meaningless "ethical" nonsense? One reason is that you, dh, and the rest of the meatarian propagandists simply do not have the ability to do so. That would require some grasp of science and logic which you do not possess, nor do you have any interest in developing. Laurie |
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Attn. Pearl. Please add Laurie's comment to your page
"Laurie" > wrote in message ... > "everwestward" > wrote in message om... > > Jonathan Ball > wrote in message hlink.net>... > > > > > > There's no riddle. You're a mentally ill asshole. > > > > > My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. Must > > be all the dietary impurities. > > > Oh, you don't know about Jon-a-thug noBalls? > He is arguably the most intentionally-obnoxious of all the > hostile, meatarian trolls who haunt the veg*n ng's, hoping to > suck innocent newbies into meaningless dialog and then blast > them with lies, personal insults, vulgarity, and verbally-violent > assaults. Killfile him and the rest of his ilk. > > Laurie > They don't come much better than that, Pearl. |
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Riddle: What am I?
Laurie wrote:
> > wrote in message > ... > > >> We're not supposed to consider the lives of animals, >>so why consider the lives of plants? > > Why not consider the biological equipment and digestive biochemistry > instead of arbitrary and meaningless "ethical" nonsense? > One reason is that you, dh, and the rest of the meatarian propagandists > simply do not have the ability to do so. That would require some grasp of > science and logic which you do not possess, nor do you have any interest in > developing. You are the one with no grasp of science or logic, Larry, nor any interest in developing any. Support your claim, for example, that the idea of complementary proteins is a "myth". Support it with peer reviewed reasearch, please. I'll wait. |
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Attn. Pearl. Please add Laurie's comment to your page
"ipse dixit" > wrote in message >...
> "Laurie" > wrote in message ... > > "everwestward" > wrote in message om... > > > Jonathan Ball > wrote in message hlink.net>... > > > > > > > > There's no riddle. You're a mentally ill asshole. > > > > > > > My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. Must > > > be all the dietary impurities. > > > > > Oh, you don't know about Jon-a-thug noBalls? > > He is arguably the most intentionally-obnoxious of all the > > hostile, meatarian trolls who haunt the veg*n ng's, hoping to > > suck innocent newbies into meaningless dialog and then blast > > them with lies, personal insults, vulgarity, and verbally-violent > > assaults. Killfile him and the rest of his ilk. > > > > Laurie > > > They don't come much better than that, Pearl. Except for the fact that Larry has shown no evidence of meaningless dialogue or lies and, being a vegan hypocrite, shows his own penchant for using insults with the use of the silly non-word "meatarian". Kevin |
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Attn. Pearl. Please add Laurie's comment to your page
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Attn. Pearl. Please add Laurie's comment to your page
"ipse dixit" > wrote in message ...
> On 27 Jan 2004 06:03:25 -0800, (K D B) wrote: > >"ipse dixit" > wrote in message >... If not for kdb's reply, I'd not have seen your post. -Done.- http://www.iol.ie/~creature/boiled%20ball.html > >> "Laurie" > wrote in message ... > >> > "everwestward" > wrote in message om... > >> > > Jonathan Ball > wrote in message hlink.net>... > >> > > > > >> > > > There's no riddle. You're a mentally ill asshole. > >> > > > > >> > > My, oh my. Someone has too much hostility. Must > >> > > be all the dietary impurities. > >> > > > >> > Oh, you don't know about Jon-a-thug noBalls? > >> > He is arguably the most intentionally-obnoxious of all the > >> > hostile, meatarian trolls who haunt the veg*n ng's, hoping to > >> > suck innocent newbies into meaningless dialog and then blast > >> > them with lies, personal insults, vulgarity, and verbally-violent > >> > assaults. Killfile him and the rest of his ilk. > >> > > >> > Laurie > >> > > >> They don't come much better than that, Pearl. > > > > Except for the fact that Larry has shown no evidence of meaningless > >dialogue or lies > > The evidence of Laurie's claim is plain to everyone. > Jon's only reason for being here is to "haunt the veg*n > ng's, hoping to suck innocent newbies into meaningless > dialog and then blast them with lies, personal insults, > vulgarity, and verbally-violent assaults." > > You probably don't see it, but that's no surprise since > also fail to see his unethical snipping, too. |
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Attn. Pearl. Please add Laurie's comment to your page
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:38:12 -0000, "pearl" > wrote:
>"ipse dixit" > wrote in message ... >> On 27 Jan 2004 06:03:25 -0800, (K D B) wrote: >> >"ipse dixit" > wrote in message >... > >If not for kdb's reply, I'd not have seen your post. -Done.- > >http://www.iol.ie/~creature/boiled%20ball.html > Seen it. Superb! |
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Attn. Pearl. Please add Laurie's comment to your page
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:38:12 -0000, "pearl" > wrote:
>"ipse dixit" > wrote in message ... >> On 27 Jan 2004 06:03:25 -0800, (K D B) wrote: >> >"ipse dixit" > wrote in message >... > >If not for kdb's reply, I'd not have seen your post. I'm kill-filed then? |
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