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Life _per se_ cannot be a "benefit"
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:13:53 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote:
>For obvious reasons that >nonetheless are beyond ****WIT's grasp, life _per se_ >cannot be a benefit. Here's one of them which insists that no animal has ever benefitted from anything, nor has any infant. It also insists that the first thing to ever benefit from anything, was the first person to conceive of the idea of benefit: __________________________________________________ _______ From: Jonathan Ball > Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animal s Subject: Problems for ****wit, too Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:11:43 -0700 Message-ID: > No, ****wit, that's not why I *know* animals don't "benefit" from "getting to experience life"...They don't because they can't conceive of the idea of "benefit" ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ |
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Life _per se_ cannot be a "benefit"
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Life _per se_ cannot be a "benefit"
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:28:39 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote:
>****WIT David Harrison wrote: > >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:13:53 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote: >> >> >>>For obvious reasons that >>>nonetheless are beyond ****WIT's grasp, life _per se_ >>>cannot be a benefit. >> >> >> Here's one of them which insists that no animal >> has ever benefitted from anything > >No, ****WIT, that's a lie. I have never said no animal >ever benefited from anything. According to you, they don't because they can't conceive of the idea of "benefit" |
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Life _per se_ cannot be a "benefit"
****WIT David Harrison wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:28:39 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote: > > >>****WIT David Harrison wrote: >> >> >>>On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:13:53 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>For obvious reasons that >>>>nonetheless are beyond ****WIT's grasp, life _per se_ >>>>cannot be a benefit. >>> >>> >>> Here's one of them which insists that no animal >>>has ever benefitted from anything >> >>No, ****WIT, that's a lie. I have never said no animal >>ever benefited from anything. > > > According to you, they don't because No, ****WIT. I never said animals can't benefit. I said animals can't benefit from anything - good treatment, ample food, veterinary care - UNTIL they're already alive. Life itself cannot be a benefit, ****WIT. Stop putting my name and address to posts, ****WIT. |
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