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Jonathan Ball
 
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Default Dead animals can suffer.

Animals suffer a loss when they die: a loss of life.

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Mark Earnest
 
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"Jonathan Ball >" > wrote in message
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> Animals suffer a loss when they die: a loss of life.
>


Just like people, I believe, animals suffer the loss of life when they die.
But they get it back some day, just like we do. And then, I think it is
orderly to surmise...only if they were loved animals.

Because all life continues.


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Jonathan Ball < wrote:
> Animals suffer a loss when they die: a loss of life.


Be sure to let us know what your new ISP is after
Mindspring closes your account, ****wit.

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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 17:19:44 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote:

>Jonathan Ball < wrote:
>> Animals suffer a loss when they die: a loss of life.

>
>Be sure to let us know what your new ISP is after
>Mindspring closes your account, ****wit.


You are the author of it Gonad:
__________________________________________________ _______
From: Jonathan Ball >
Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animal s
Subject: No loss to the animals
Message-ID: k.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT

Animals suffer a loss when they die: a loss of life.
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
though I can certainly understand why you are so ashamed of it.
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wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 17:19:44 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote:
>
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>>Jonathan Ball < wrote:
>>
>>>Animals suffer a loss when they die: a loss of life.

>>
>>Be sure to let us know what your new ISP is after
>>Mindspring closes your account, ****wit.

>
>
> You are the author of it


No, YOU wrote it, ****WIT. It's right there in the
headers, ****WIT:

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From: Jonathan Ball >>
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Subject: Dead animals can suffer.
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Here's another of your post headers under your own
****WITTED posting ID, ****WIT:

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From:

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Do you see the same newsreader and the IDENTICAL
posting host, ****WIT? You posted both of those just a
few minutes apart, ****WIT. They also both were
posted using Forte Free Agent, something I don't have
installed on my computer, ****WIT.

You lose, ****WIT. You're going to hear from
Mindspring, and they may terminate your account. You
stupid, STUPID ****WIT.



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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:19:38 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote:

wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 17:19:44 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote:
>>
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>>>Jonathan Ball < wrote:
>>>
>>>>Animals suffer a loss when they die: a loss of life.
>>>
>>>Be sure to let us know what your new ISP is after
>>>Mindspring closes your account, ****wit.

>>
>>
>> You are the author of it

>
>No, YOU wrote it, ****WIT.


No, I copied what YOU wrote Gonad. You should be
ashamed of it though, and we can clearly see that you
are.
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>From: Jonathan Ball >
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>Animals suffer a loss when they die: a loss of life.


#
Even vegetables must die.
I have never know anyone to survive without killing something. Death of one
life is the fact of life for another.
#




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Halcitron wrote:

>>From: Jonathan Ball >
>>Newsgroups: alt.philosophy, talk.philosophy.misc, talk.politics.animals,
>>misc.rural, uk.business.agriculture, alt.food.vegan
>>Message-ID: >
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>>talk.politics.animals:299948 misc.rural:177182 uk.business.agricultu144282
>>alt.food.vegan:92059
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>>Animals suffer a loss when they die: a loss of life.

>
>
> #
> Even vegetables must die.
> I have never know anyone to survive without killing something. Death of one
> life is the fact of life for another.


The post to which you replied is a forgery. I did say
that animals suffer a loss when they die, but in a
different and fuller context. An especially stupid and
dishonest ****WIT named David Harrison posted the
message to which you replied.

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>From: Jonathan Ball
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>Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 03:39:57 GMT


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>Halcitron wrote:
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>>>From: Jonathan Ball >
>>>Newsgroups: alt.philosophy, talk.philosophy.misc, talk.politics.animals,
>>>misc.rural, uk.business.agriculture, alt.food.vegan
>>>Message-ID: >
>>>X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
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>>>Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 01:39:00 GMT
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>>>X-Trace: newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net 1072921140 209.86.139.70 (Wed, 31
>>>Dec 2003 17:39:00 PST)
>>>NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:39:00 PST
>>>Organization: EarthLink Inc. --
http://www.EarthLink.net
>>>Xref: lobby alt.philosophy:223296 talk.philosophy.misc:175734
>>>talk.politics.animals:299948 misc.rural:177182

>uk.business.agricultu144282
>>>alt.food.vegan:92059
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Animals suffer a loss when they die: a loss of life.

>>
>>
>> #
>> Even vegetables must die.
>> I have never know anyone to survive without killing something. Death of one
>> life is the fact of life for another.

>
>The post to which you replied is a forgery. I did say
>that animals suffer a loss when they die, but in a
>different and fuller context. An especially stupid and
>dishonest ****WIT named David Harrison posted the
>message to which you replied.


In that case I am sorry. I have also been targeted by forgers. They are fun to
shoot at though. They don't hear the gunfire, at 200 yards.

:/




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Check your six and know when to duck.
NRA Member since 2002
The Law of the Land, is the weapon in your hand.

Smith & Wesson starts where the Bill of Rights stop.

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