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Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.
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http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en...B22A.2952CE6C%
40hotmail.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26scor
ing%3Dr%26as_drrb%3Dq%26q%3Dvegan%2Bgroup%253Aalt. bible%2Bauthor%253Achariot
%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch

Wow! all that is just one link!

Hey, just a thought about the importance of Transition of Diet.

Perhaps you could add something?

Isn't there a scripture about purifying your heart somewhere?


As for me...
Dietary Goal Setting - Towards Fruitarianism
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"Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
.. .
> Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....


*applause*

Love & Laughter,
Nightshade



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TeeHee!
___
/uesday
/<night ...it is a gift.


On 12/2/03 2:50 PM, Hecate100 at wrote:

>
> "Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....

>
> *applause*
>
> Love & Laughter,
> Nightshade
>
>
>




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"Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
.. .
> On 12/2/03 2:21 PM, Fred Stone at wrote:
>
> > Tuesday Knight wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/25/03 6:15 PM, Cannibals for Christ at


> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
> >>> the ethics of veganism.
> >>
> >>
> >> I can only conclude that Jebus is made of rice flour.
> >>

> >
> > Wheat flour. A priest who had a gluten sensitivity was told to pray for
> > healing, but they couldn't change the recipe for communion wafers.

>
> Its a shame. They are so bland, you know. I think more people would go to
> communion if they tasted more like Oreos my last high priestess served.
> (yeah, I did it all for the cookies)


Oreos don't stick to the roof of your mouth and dry up all your saliva,
either.

There was an Xmas tradition at my evil grandmother's house where everyone
had a wafer (big enough to have a Last Supper embossing on it) and each
person present would break a piece off of each other's and say "Health,
Wealth and Happiness" before eating the fragment. It became an art form of
trying to break off as small a piece as possible. Thing was, you had to eat
what was left of your wafer. Nasty shit.

> >> But then that raises the question....... Do Catholics on the Atkins

diet
> >> consider communion wafers to be meat or carbs......... Christianity is

so
> >> confusing when one is watching their weight.

> >
> > Transsubstantiation doesn't seem to affect protein chemistry.

>
> Right. Nix the wafers.
>
> Its a good thing Im not catholic. Id **so** be going to hell. But with

oreo
> cookies I guess Ill just go to hollow tree and get jiggie with some elves.
> As long as they looked like Legolas how could that be bad? ;-)


He's a bit effete for my tastes, though. And he really should bleach his
eyebrows to match his hair.

Love & Laughter,
Nightshade


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Tuesday Knight wrote:

http://www.google.co.nz/groups?as_q=...2003&lr=&hl=en

> Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....


Now, I have a question...

Why did Abel kill the Lamb? <> Revelation 13:8

http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en...ra.co.nz#link1


Thy people
also shall be
all righteous:
they shall
inherit the
land for ever,
the branch
of my planting,
the work of
my hands,
that I
may be
glorified.
For thou art an holy people
unto the LORD thy God:
the LORD thy God
hath chosen
thee to be a special people
unto himself,
above all people
that are upon
the face of the earth.
And to make thee high
above all nations
which he hath made,
in praise,
and in name,
and in honour;
and that thou mayest be an holy people
unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.
The LORD shall establish thee an holy people
unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if
thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God,
and walk in his ways. But ye are a chosen generation,
a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;
that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath
called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

No lion
shall
be
there,
nor
any
ravenous
beast
shall
go
up
thereon,
it
shall
not
be
found
there;
but
the
redeemed
shall
walk
the
Let
the
redeemed
of
the
LORD
say
so,
whom
he
hath
redeemed
from
the
hand
of
the
enemy;
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible
things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received
by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood
of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: And
they sung a new song,
saying,
Thou art worthy to take the book,
and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain,
and hast redeemed us
to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
and tongue, and people, and nation;
I am sought of them that asked not for me;
I am found of them that sought me not:
I said,
Behold me,
behold me,
unto a nation
that was not called by my name.
For thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I, even I, will both search my sheep,
and seek them out.
As a shepherd seeketh out his flock
in the day
that he is among his sheep that are scattered;
so will I seek out my sheep,
and will deliver them out
of all places where
they have been scattered
in the cloudy and dark day.
And I will bring them out
from the people,
and gather them from the countries,
and will bring them to their own land,
and feed them upon the mountains of Israel
by the rivers,
and in all
the inhabited places of the country.
I will feed them in a good pasture,
and upon the high mountains
of Israel shall their
fold be: there
shall they
lie in a good fold,
and in a fat pasture
shall they feed
upon the
mountains
of Israel.
I will feed my flock,
and I will cause them to lie down,
saith the Lord GOD.
I will seek that which was lost,
and bring again that which was driven away,
and will bind up that which was broken,
and will strengthen that which was sick:
but I will destroy the fat and the strong;
I will feed them with judgment.

For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

How think ye?
if a man have an hundred sheep,
and one of them be gone astray,
doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
and goeth into the mountains,
and seeketh that which is gone astray?
And if so be that he find it,
verily I say unto you,
he rejoiceth more of that sheep,
than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
What man of you,
having an hundred sheep,
if he lose one of them,
doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness,
and go after that which is lost,
until he find it?
And when he hath found it,
he layeth it on his shoulders,
rejoicing.
For
the Son of man
is come to seek
and to save that which was lost.
But
the
hour
cometh,
and now is,
when the true worshippers
shall worship the Father
in spirit and in truth:
for the Father seeketh
such to worship him.
And other
sheep I have,
which are not of
this fold: them also
I must bring, and they
shall hear my voice;
and there shall
be one fold,
and one
shepherd.
Thou
shalt no
more be
termed
Forsaken;
neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate:
but thou shalt be called Hephzibah,
and thy land Beulah:
for the LORD delighteth in thee,
and thy land shall be married.
And I say also unto thee,
That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will build my church;
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and,
lo,
I am
with you
alway, even
unto the end
of the world.
Amen.
Let your
conversation
be without
covetousness;
and be content
with such things
as ye have: for he
hath said, I will
never leave thee,
nor forsake thee.

> ___
> /uesday
> /<night
>
> On 11/26/03 7:23 AM, christopherjt at wrote:
>
> > Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you eat? Is
> > your own


http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en...r%3D%26hl%3Den

Any one can be a vegan? Are you or aren't you? I AM that i am.


> > "Steve Knight" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,
> >> (Cannibals for Christ) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
> >>> the ethics of veganism.
> >>
> >> Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
> >> this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
> >> their saviors body. He got ****ed and said there was nothing
> >> 'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
> >> word
> >>
> >> I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'
> >>
> >> Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...
> >>
> >> Warlord Steve
> >> BAAWA
> >>
www.sonic.net/~wooly

> >
> >

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You're an ass.

And yes they can. Transubstantiation is not cannibalism.


On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,
(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:

>Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
>the ethics of veganism.


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Hecate100 wrote:
> "Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>On 12/2/03 2:21 PM, Fred Stone at wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tuesday Knight wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On 11/25/03 6:15 PM, Cannibals for Christ at
>>>

>

>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
>>>>>the ethics of veganism.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I can only conclude that Jebus is made of rice flour.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Wheat flour. A priest who had a gluten sensitivity was told to pray for
>>>healing, but they couldn't change the recipe for communion wafers.

>>
>>Its a shame. They are so bland, you know. I think more people would go to
>>communion if they tasted more like Oreos my last high priestess served.
>>(yeah, I did it all for the cookies)

>
>
> Oreos don't stick to the roof of your mouth and dry up all your saliva,
> either.
>
> There was an Xmas tradition at my evil grandmother's house where everyone
> had a wafer (big enough to have a Last Supper embossing on it) and each
> person present would break a piece off of each other's and say "Health,
> Wealth and Happiness" before eating the fragment. It became an art form of
> trying to break off as small a piece as possible. Thing was, you had to eat
> what was left of your wafer. Nasty shit.
>
>
>>>>But then that raises the question....... Do Catholics on the Atkins
>>>

> diet
>
>>>>consider communion wafers to be meat or carbs......... Christianity is
>>>

> so
>
>>>>confusing when one is watching their weight.
>>>
>>>Transsubstantiation doesn't seem to affect protein chemistry.

>>
>>Right. Nix the wafers.
>>
>>Its a good thing Im not catholic. Id **so** be going to hell. But with

>
> oreo
>
>>cookies I guess Ill just go to hollow tree and get jiggie with some elves.
>>As long as they looked like Legolas how could that be bad? ;-)

>
>
> He's a bit effete for my tastes, though. And he really should bleach his
> eyebrows to match his hair.
>
> Love & Laughter,
> Nightshade
>
>


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Hecate100 wrote:
> "Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>On 12/2/03 2:21 PM, Fred Stone at wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tuesday Knight wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On 11/25/03 6:15 PM, Cannibals for Christ at
>>>

>

>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
>>>>>the ethics of veganism.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I can only conclude that Jebus is made of rice flour.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Wheat flour. A priest who had a gluten sensitivity was told to pray for
>>>healing, but they couldn't change the recipe for communion wafers.

>>
>>Its a shame. They are so bland, you know. I think more people would go to
>>communion if they tasted more like Oreos my last high priestess served.
>>(yeah, I did it all for the cookies)

>
>
> Oreos don't stick to the roof of your mouth and dry up all your saliva,
> either.
>
> There was an Xmas tradition at my evil grandmother's house where everyone
> had a wafer (big enough to have a Last Supper embossing on it) and each
> person present would break a piece off of each other's and say "Health,
> Wealth and Happiness" before eating the fragment. It became an art form of
> trying to break off as small a piece as possible. Thing was, you had to eat
> what was left of your wafer. Nasty shit.
>
>
>>>>But then that raises the question....... Do Catholics on the Atkins
>>>

> diet
>
>>>>consider communion wafers to be meat or carbs......... Christianity is
>>>

> so
>
>>>>confusing when one is watching their weight.
>>>
>>>Transsubstantiation doesn't seem to affect protein chemistry.

>>
>>Right. Nix the wafers.
>>
>>Its a good thing Im not catholic. Id **so** be going to hell. But with

>
> oreo
>
>>cookies I guess Ill just go to hollow tree and get jiggie with some elves.
>>As long as they looked like Legolas how could that be bad? ;-)

>
>
> He's a bit effete for my tastes, though. And he really should bleach his
> eyebrows to match his hair.
>
> Love & Laughter,
> Nightshade
>
>




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David Chariot wrote:
>
> Tuesday Knight wrote:
>
> http://www.google.co.nz/groups?as_q=...2003&lr=&hl=en
>
>
>>Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....

>
>
> Now, I have a question...
>
> Why did Abel kill the Lamb? <> Revelation 13:8
>
> http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en...ra.co.nz#link1
>
>
> Thy people
> also shall be
> all righteous:
> they shall
> inherit the
> land for ever,
> the branch
> of my planting,
> the work of
> my hands,
> that I
> may be
> glorified.
> For thou art an holy people
> unto the LORD thy God:
> the LORD thy God
> hath chosen
> thee to be a special people
> unto himself,
> above all people
> that are upon
> the face of the earth.
> And to make thee high
> above all nations
> which he hath made,
> in praise,
> and in name,
> and in honour;
> and that thou mayest be an holy people
> unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.
> The LORD shall establish thee an holy people
> unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if
> thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God,
> and walk in his ways. But ye are a chosen generation,
> a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;
> that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath
> called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
>
> No lion
> shall
> be
> there,
> nor
> any
> ravenous
> beast
> shall
> go
> up
> thereon,
> it
> shall
> not
> be
> found
> there;
> but
> the
> redeemed
> shall
> walk
> the
> Let
> the
> redeemed
> of
> the
> LORD
> say
> so,
> whom
> he
> hath
> redeemed
> from
> the
> hand
> of
> the
> enemy;
> Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible
> things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received
> by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood
> of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: And
> they sung a new song,
> saying,
> Thou art worthy to take the book,
> and to open the seals thereof:
> for thou wast slain,
> and hast redeemed us
> to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
> and tongue, and people, and nation;
> I am sought of them that asked not for me;
> I am found of them that sought me not:
> I said,
> Behold me,
> behold me,
> unto a nation
> that was not called by my name.
> For thus saith the Lord GOD;
> Behold,
> I, even I, will both search my sheep,
> and seek them out.
> As a shepherd seeketh out his flock
> in the day
> that he is among his sheep that are scattered;
> so will I seek out my sheep,
> and will deliver them out
> of all places where
> they have been scattered
> in the cloudy and dark day.
> And I will bring them out
> from the people,
> and gather them from the countries,
> and will bring them to their own land,
> and feed them upon the mountains of Israel
> by the rivers,
> and in all
> the inhabited places of the country.
> I will feed them in a good pasture,
> and upon the high mountains
> of Israel shall their
> fold be: there
> shall they
> lie in a good fold,
> and in a fat pasture
> shall they feed
> upon the
> mountains
> of Israel.
> I will feed my flock,
> and I will cause them to lie down,
> saith the Lord GOD.
> I will seek that which was lost,
> and bring again that which was driven away,
> and will bind up that which was broken,
> and will strengthen that which was sick:
> but I will destroy the fat and the strong;
> I will feed them with judgment.
>
> For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
>
> How think ye?
> if a man have an hundred sheep,
> and one of them be gone astray,
> doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
> and goeth into the mountains,
> and seeketh that which is gone astray?
> And if so be that he find it,
> verily I say unto you,
> he rejoiceth more of that sheep,
> than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
> What man of you,
> having an hundred sheep,
> if he lose one of them,
> doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness,
> and go after that which is lost,
> until he find it?
> And when he hath found it,
> he layeth it on his shoulders,
> rejoicing.
> For
> the Son of man
> is come to seek
> and to save that which was lost.
> But
> the
> hour
> cometh,
> and now is,
> when the true worshippers
> shall worship the Father
> in spirit and in truth:
> for the Father seeketh
> such to worship him.
> And other
> sheep I have,
> which are not of
> this fold: them also
> I must bring, and they
> shall hear my voice;
> and there shall
> be one fold,
> and one
> shepherd.
> Thou
> shalt no
> more be
> termed
> Forsaken;
> neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate:
> but thou shalt be called Hephzibah,
> and thy land Beulah:
> for the LORD delighteth in thee,
> and thy land shall be married.
> And I say also unto thee,
> That thou art Peter,
> and upon this rock I will build my church;
> and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
> Teaching them to observe all things
> whatsoever I have commanded you:
> and,
> lo,
> I am
> with you
> alway, even
> unto the end
> of the world.
> Amen.
> Let your
> conversation
> be without
> covetousness;
> and be content
> with such things
> as ye have: for he
> hath said, I will
> never leave thee,
> nor forsake thee.
>
>
>>___
>> /uesday
>> /<night
>>
>>On 11/26/03 7:23 AM, christopherjt at wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you eat? Is
>>>your own

>>

>
>
http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en...r%3D%26hl%3Den
>
> Any one can be a vegan? Are you or aren't you? I AM that i am.
>
>
>
>>>"Steve Knight" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,
>>>>(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
>>>>>the ethics of veganism.
>>>>
>>>>Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
>>>>this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
>>>>their saviors body. He got ****ed and said there was nothing
>>>>'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
>>>>word
>>>>
>>>>I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'
>>>>
>>>>Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...
>>>>
>>>>Warlord Steve
>>>>BAAWA
>>>>
www.sonic.net/~wooly
>>>
>>>


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...

Spammers Blow wrote:
> You're an ass.
>
> And yes they can. Transubstantiation is not cannibalism.
>
>
> On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,
> (Cannibals for Christ) wrote:
>
>
>>Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
>>the ethics of veganism.

>
>


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,

Tuesday Knight wrote:
> TeeHee!
> ___
> /uesday
> /<night ...it is a gift.
>
>
> On 12/2/03 2:50 PM, Hecate100 at wrote:
>
>
>>"Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....

>>
>>*applause*
>>
>>Love & Laughter,
>>Nightshade
>>
>>
>>

>
>


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Thats what I love about Misty. She can always be counted on to tell us
exactly whats on her mind.

___
/uesday
/<night

On 12/3/03 3:06 AM, Misty at wrote:

>
>
> Hecate100 wrote:
>> "Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>
>>> On 12/2/03 2:21 PM, Fred Stone at wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tuesday Knight wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/25/03 6:15 PM, Cannibals for Christ at
>>>>

>>

>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
>>>>>> the ethics of veganism.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can only conclude that Jebus is made of rice flour.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wheat flour. A priest who had a gluten sensitivity was told to pray for
>>>> healing, but they couldn't change the recipe for communion wafers.
>>>
>>> Its a shame. They are so bland, you know. I think more people would go to
>>> communion if they tasted more like Oreos my last high priestess served.
>>> (yeah, I did it all for the cookies)

>>
>>
>> Oreos don't stick to the roof of your mouth and dry up all your saliva,
>> either.
>>
>> There was an Xmas tradition at my evil grandmother's house where everyone
>> had a wafer (big enough to have a Last Supper embossing on it) and each
>> person present would break a piece off of each other's and say "Health,
>> Wealth and Happiness" before eating the fragment. It became an art form of
>> trying to break off as small a piece as possible. Thing was, you had to eat
>> what was left of your wafer. Nasty shit.
>>
>>
>>>>> But then that raises the question....... Do Catholics on the Atkins
>>>>

>> diet
>>
>>>>> consider communion wafers to be meat or carbs......... Christianity is
>>>>

>> so
>>
>>>>> confusing when one is watching their weight.
>>>>
>>>> Transsubstantiation doesn't seem to affect protein chemistry.
>>>
>>> Right. Nix the wafers.
>>>
>>> Its a good thing Im not catholic. Id **so** be going to hell. But with

>>
>> oreo
>>
>>> cookies I guess Ill just go to hollow tree and get jiggie with some elves.
>>> As long as they looked like Legolas how could that be bad? ;-)

>>
>>
>> He's a bit effete for my tastes, though. And he really should bleach his
>> eyebrows to match his hair.
>>
>> Love & Laughter,
>> Nightshade
>>
>>

>


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Case en pointe.

___
/uesday
/<night

On 12/3/03 3:07 AM, Misty at wrote:

>
>
> Hecate100 wrote:
>> "Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>
>>> On 12/2/03 2:21 PM, Fred Stone at wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tuesday Knight wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/25/03 6:15 PM, Cannibals for Christ at
>>>>

>>

>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
>>>>>> the ethics of veganism.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can only conclude that Jebus is made of rice flour.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wheat flour. A priest who had a gluten sensitivity was told to pray for
>>>> healing, but they couldn't change the recipe for communion wafers.
>>>
>>> Its a shame. They are so bland, you know. I think more people would go to
>>> communion if they tasted more like Oreos my last high priestess served.
>>> (yeah, I did it all for the cookies)

>>
>>
>> Oreos don't stick to the roof of your mouth and dry up all your saliva,
>> either.
>>
>> There was an Xmas tradition at my evil grandmother's house where everyone
>> had a wafer (big enough to have a Last Supper embossing on it) and each
>> person present would break a piece off of each other's and say "Health,
>> Wealth and Happiness" before eating the fragment. It became an art form of
>> trying to break off as small a piece as possible. Thing was, you had to eat
>> what was left of your wafer. Nasty shit.
>>
>>
>>>>> But then that raises the question....... Do Catholics on the Atkins
>>>>

>> diet
>>
>>>>> consider communion wafers to be meat or carbs......... Christianity is
>>>>

>> so
>>
>>>>> confusing when one is watching their weight.
>>>>
>>>> Transsubstantiation doesn't seem to affect protein chemistry.
>>>
>>> Right. Nix the wafers.
>>>
>>> Its a good thing Im not catholic. Id **so** be going to hell. But with

>>
>> oreo
>>
>>> cookies I guess Ill just go to hollow tree and get jiggie with some elves.
>>> As long as they looked like Legolas how could that be bad? ;-)

>>
>>
>> He's a bit effete for my tastes, though. And he really should bleach his
>> eyebrows to match his hair.
>>
>> Love & Laughter,
>> Nightshade
>>
>>

>




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I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.

I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?

Just asking cuz you seem kinna blurty and you didnt make much sense. Then
again, I wasnt really paying attention. I have Christian A.D.D.
___
/uesday
/<night


On 12/2/03 10:46 PM, David Chariot at wrote:

>
>
> Tuesday Knight wrote:
>
>
http://www.google.co.nz/groups?as_q=...e=ISO-8859-1&a
> s_ugroup=alt.christnet.christianlife&as_uauthors=c hariot&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&
> as_minm=6&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=9&as_max y=2003&lr=&hl=en
>
>> Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....

>
> Now, I have a question...
>
> Why did Abel kill the Lamb? <> Revelation 13:8
>
> http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en...=17e6e3da8dabc
> c6c&seekm=3FC7DB33.E82C4578%40xtra.co.nz#link1
>
>
> Thy people
> also shall be
> all righteous:
> they shall
> inherit the
> land for ever,
> the branch
> of my planting,
> the work of
> my hands,
> that I
> may be
> glorified.
> For thou art an holy people
> unto the LORD thy God:
> the LORD thy God
> hath chosen
> thee to be a special people
> unto himself,
> above all people
> that are upon
> the face of the earth.
> And to make thee high
> above all nations
> which he hath made,
> in praise,
> and in name,
> and in honour;
> and that thou mayest be an holy people
> unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.
> The LORD shall establish thee an holy people
> unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if
> thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God,
> and walk in his ways. But ye are a chosen generation,
> a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;
> that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath
> called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
>
> No lion
> shall
> be
> there,
> nor
> any
> ravenous
> beast
> shall
> go
> up
> thereon,
> it
> shall
> not
> be
> found
> there;
> but
> the
> redeemed
> shall
> walk
> the
> Let
> the
> redeemed
> of
> the
> LORD
> say
> so,
> whom
> he
> hath
> redeemed
> from
> the
> hand
> of
> the
> enemy;
> Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible
> things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received
> by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood
> of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: And
> they sung a new song,
> saying,
> Thou art worthy to take the book,
> and to open the seals thereof:
> for thou wast slain,
> and hast redeemed us
> to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
> and tongue, and people, and nation;
> I am sought of them that asked not for me;
> I am found of them that sought me not:
> I said,
> Behold me,
> behold me,
> unto a nation
> that was not called by my name.
> For thus saith the Lord GOD;
> Behold,
> I, even I, will both search my sheep,
> and seek them out.
> As a shepherd seeketh out his flock
> in the day
> that he is among his sheep that are scattered;
> so will I seek out my sheep,
> and will deliver them out
> of all places where
> they have been scattered
> in the cloudy and dark day.
> And I will bring them out
> from the people,
> and gather them from the countries,
> and will bring them to their own land,
> and feed them upon the mountains of Israel
> by the rivers,
> and in all
> the inhabited places of the country.
> I will feed them in a good pasture,
> and upon the high mountains
> of Israel shall their
> fold be: there
> shall they
> lie in a good fold,
> and in a fat pasture
> shall they feed
> upon the
> mountains
> of Israel.
> I will feed my flock,
> and I will cause them to lie down,
> saith the Lord GOD.
> I will seek that which was lost,
> and bring again that which was driven away,
> and will bind up that which was broken,
> and will strengthen that which was sick:
> but I will destroy the fat and the strong;
> I will feed them with judgment.
>
> For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
>
> How think ye?
> if a man have an hundred sheep,
> and one of them be gone astray,
> doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
> and goeth into the mountains,
> and seeketh that which is gone astray?
> And if so be that he find it,
> verily I say unto you,
> he rejoiceth more of that sheep,
> than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
> What man of you,
> having an hundred sheep,
> if he lose one of them,
> doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness,
> and go after that which is lost,
> until he find it?
> And when he hath found it,
> he layeth it on his shoulders,
> rejoicing.
> For
> the Son of man
> is come to seek
> and to save that which was lost.
> But
> the
> hour
> cometh,
> and now is,
> when the true worshippers
> shall worship the Father
> in spirit and in truth:
> for the Father seeketh
> such to worship him.
> And other
> sheep I have,
> which are not of
> this fold: them also
> I must bring, and they
> shall hear my voice;
> and there shall
> be one fold,
> and one
> shepherd.
> Thou
> shalt no
> more be
> termed
> Forsaken;
> neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate:
> but thou shalt be called Hephzibah,
> and thy land Beulah:
> for the LORD delighteth in thee,
> and thy land shall be married.
> And I say also unto thee,
> That thou art Peter,
> and upon this rock I will build my church;
> and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
> Teaching them to observe all things
> whatsoever I have commanded you:
> and,
> lo,
> I am
> with you
> alway, even
> unto the end
> of the world.
> Amen.
> Let your
> conversation
> be without
> covetousness;
> and be content
> with such things
> as ye have: for he
> hath said, I will
> never leave thee,
> nor forsake thee.
>
>> ___
>> /uesday
>> /<night
>>
>> On 11/26/03 7:23 AM, christopherjt at wrote:
>>
>>> Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you eat? Is
>>> your own

>
>
http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en...2A.2952CE6C%40
> hotmail.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fsafe%3Dimages%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26as_ugroup%
> 3Dalt.bible%26as_usubject%3Dvegan%26as_uauthors%3D chariot%2520%26lr%3D%26hl%3D
> en
>
> Any one can be a vegan? Are you or aren't you? I AM that i am.
>
>
>>> "Steve Knight" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,
>>>> (Cannibals for Christ) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
>>>>> the ethics of veganism.
>>>>
>>>> Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
>>>> this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
>>>> their saviors body. He got ****ed and said there was nothing
>>>> 'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
>>>> word
>>>>
>>>> I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'
>>>>
>>>> Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...
>>>>
>>>> Warlord Steve
>>>> BAAWA
>>>>
www.sonic.net/~wooly
>>>
>>>


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On 12/2/03 5:06 PM, Fred Stone at wrote:

> Tuesday Knight wrote:
>> On 12/2/03 2:21 PM, Fred Stone at
wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Tuesday Knight wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11/25/03 6:15 PM, Cannibals for Christ at

>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
>>>>> the ethics of veganism.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can only conclude that Jebus is made of rice flour.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wheat flour. A priest who had a gluten sensitivity was told to pray for
>>> healing, but they couldn't change the recipe for communion wafers.

>>
>>
>> Its a shame. They are so bland, you know. I think more people would go to
>> communion if they tasted more like Oreos my last high priestess served.
>> (yeah, I did it all for the cookies)
>>

>
> No Snickers?
>
>>
>>>> But then that raises the question....... Do Catholics on the Atkins diet
>>>> consider communion wafers to be meat or carbs......... Christianity is so
>>>> confusing when one is watching their weight.
>>>
>>> Transsubstantiation doesn't seem to affect protein chemistry.

>>
>>
>> Right. Nix the wafers.
>>
>> Its a good thing Im not catholic. Id **so** be going to hell. But with oreo
>> cookies I guess Ill just go to hollow tree and get jiggie with some elves.
>> As long as they looked like Legolas how could that be bad? ;-)

>
> I don't know, eyebrows don't do a whole lot for me. ;-)


Hrm. Well, I dont look like Legolas, you can have my cookies.

;-)
___
/uesday
/<night

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"Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
.. .
> I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.
>
> I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?


Yes. It's called "evangellism".

Joe


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Isnt that cute? She tries so hard to make words.... dontcha just love
her????
___
/uesday
/<night


On 12/3/03 3:13 AM, Misty at wrote:

> ,
>
> Tuesday Knight wrote:
>> TeeHee!
>> ___
>> /uesday
>> /<night ...it is a gift.
>>
>>
>> On 12/2/03 2:50 PM, Hecate100 at wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>>
>>>> Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....
>>>
>>> *applause*
>>>
>>> Love & Laughter,
>>> Nightshade
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>


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Tuesday Knight wrote:
>
> I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.
>
> I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?
>
> Just asking cuz you seem kinna blurty and you didnt make much sense. Then
> again, I wasnt really paying attention. I have Christian A.D.D.
> ___
> /uesday
> /<night


You must give a little to gain the lot.
Research helps where you lose the plot.

Peace be with you.
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"Tuesday Knight" > wrote in message
.. .
> I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.
>
> I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?


Christianity is Tourettes.

> Just asking cuz you seem kinna blurty and you didnt make much sense.

Then
> again, I wasnt really paying attention. I have Christian A.D.D.
> ___
> /uesday
> /<night
>
>
> On 12/2/03 10:46 PM, David Chariot at wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Tuesday Knight wrote:
> >
> >

http://www.google.co.nz/groups?as_q=...e=ISO-8859-1&a
> >

s_ugroup=alt.christnet.christianlife&as_uauthors=c hariot&as_drrb=b&as_mi
nd=12&
> > as_minm=6&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=9&as_max y=2003&lr=&hl=en
> >
> >> Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....

> >
> > Now, I have a question...
> >
> > Why did Abel kill the Lamb? <> Revelation 13:8
> >
> >

http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en...=17e6e3da8dabc
> > c6c&seekm=3FC7DB33.E82C4578%40xtra.co.nz#link1
> >
> >
> > Thy people
> > also shall be
> > all righteous:
> > they shall
> > inherit the
> > land for ever,
> > the branch
> > of my planting,
> > the work of
> > my hands,
> > that I
> > may be
> > glorified.
> > For thou art an holy people
> > unto the LORD thy God:
> > the LORD thy God
> > hath chosen
> > thee to be a special people
> > unto himself,
> > above all people
> > that are upon
> > the face of the earth.
> > And to make thee high
> > above all nations
> > which he hath made,
> > in praise,
> > and in name,
> > and in honour;
> > and that thou mayest be an holy people
> > unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.
> > The LORD shall establish thee an holy people
> > unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if
> > thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God,
> > and walk in his ways. But ye are a chosen generation,
> > a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;
> > that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath
> > called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
> >
> > No lion
> > shall
> > be
> > there,
> > nor
> > any
> > ravenous
> > beast
> > shall
> > go
> > up
> > thereon,
> > it
> > shall
> > not
> > be
> > found
> > there;
> > but
> > the
> > redeemed
> > shall
> > walk
> > the
> > Let
> > the
> > redeemed
> > of
> > the
> > LORD
> > say
> > so,
> > whom
> > he
> > hath
> > redeemed
> > from
> > the
> > hand
> > of
> > the
> > enemy;
> > Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible
> > things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received
> > by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood
> > of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: And
> > they sung a new song,
> > saying,
> > Thou art worthy to take the book,
> > and to open the seals thereof:
> > for thou wast slain,
> > and hast redeemed us
> > to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
> > and tongue, and people, and nation;
> > I am sought of them that asked not for me;
> > I am found of them that sought me not:
> > I said,
> > Behold me,
> > behold me,
> > unto a nation
> > that was not called by my name.
> > For thus saith the Lord GOD;
> > Behold,
> > I, even I, will both search my sheep,
> > and seek them out.
> > As a shepherd seeketh out his flock
> > in the day
> > that he is among his sheep that are scattered;
> > so will I seek out my sheep,
> > and will deliver them out
> > of all places where
> > they have been scattered
> > in the cloudy and dark day.
> > And I will bring them out
> > from the people,
> > and gather them from the countries,
> > and will bring them to their own land,
> > and feed them upon the mountains of Israel
> > by the rivers,
> > and in all
> > the inhabited places of the country.
> > I will feed them in a good pasture,
> > and upon the high mountains
> > of Israel shall their
> > fold be: there
> > shall they
> > lie in a good fold,
> > and in a fat pasture
> > shall they feed
> > upon the
> > mountains
> > of Israel.
> > I will feed my flock,
> > and I will cause them to lie down,
> > saith the Lord GOD.
> > I will seek that which was lost,
> > and bring again that which was driven away,
> > and will bind up that which was broken,
> > and will strengthen that which was sick:
> > but I will destroy the fat and the strong;
> > I will feed them with judgment.
> >
> > For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
> >
> > How think ye?
> > if a man have an hundred sheep,
> > and one of them be gone astray,
> > doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
> > and goeth into the mountains,
> > and seeketh that which is gone astray?
> > And if so be that he find it,
> > verily I say unto you,
> > he rejoiceth more of that sheep,
> > than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
> > What man of you,
> > having an hundred sheep,
> > if he lose one of them,
> > doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness,
> > and go after that which is lost,
> > until he find it?
> > And when he hath found it,
> > he layeth it on his shoulders,
> > rejoicing.
> > For
> > the Son of man
> > is come to seek
> > and to save that which was lost.
> > But
> > the
> > hour
> > cometh,
> > and now is,
> > when the true worshippers
> > shall worship the Father
> > in spirit and in truth:
> > for the Father seeketh
> > such to worship him.
> > And other
> > sheep I have,
> > which are not of
> > this fold: them also
> > I must bring, and they
> > shall hear my voice;
> > and there shall
> > be one fold,
> > and one
> > shepherd.
> > Thou
> > shalt no
> > more be
> > termed
> > Forsaken;
> > neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate:
> > but thou shalt be called Hephzibah,
> > and thy land Beulah:
> > for the LORD delighteth in thee,
> > and thy land shall be married.
> > And I say also unto thee,
> > That thou art Peter,
> > and upon this rock I will build my church;
> > and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
> > Teaching them to observe all things
> > whatsoever I have commanded you:
> > and,
> > lo,
> > I am
> > with you
> > alway, even
> > unto the end
> > of the world.
> > Amen.
> > Let your
> > conversation
> > be without
> > covetousness;
> > and be content
> > with such things
> > as ye have: for he
> > hath said, I will
> > never leave thee,
> > nor forsake thee.
> >
> >> ___
> >> /uesday
> >> /<night
> >>
> >> On 11/26/03 7:23 AM, christopherjt at

wrote:
> >>
> >>> Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you

eat? Is
> >>> your own

> >
> >

http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en...2A.2952CE6C%40
> >

hotmail.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fsafe%3Dimages%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26as_u
group%
> >

3Dalt.bible%26as_usubject%3Dvegan%26as_uauthors%3D chariot%2520%26lr%3D%2
6hl%3D
> > en
> >
> > Any one can be a vegan? Are you or aren't you? I AM that i am.
> >
> >
> >>> "Steve Knight" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,
> >>>> (Cannibals for Christ) wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would

violate
> >>>>> the ethics of veganism.
> >>>>
> >>>> Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
> >>>> this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
> >>>> their saviors body. He got ****ed and said there was nothing
> >>>> 'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of

the
> >>>> word
> >>>>
> >>>> I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'
> >>>>
> >>>> Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...
> >>>>
> >>>> Warlord Steve
> >>>> BAAWA
> >>>>
www.sonic.net/~wooly
> >>>
> >>>

>



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"Beowulf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:29:16 GMT, Steve Knight >
> ejaculated:
>
> >On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,
> >(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:
> >
> >>Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
> >>the ethics of veganism.

> >
> > Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
> >this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
> >their saviors body. He got ****ed and said there was nothing
> >'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
> >word
> >
> > I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'
> >
> > Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

>
> What I really don't get about Catholics is that the wafer is still
> obviously a cracker and that the wine is still a Merlot or Chianti or
> whatever. Crackers taste nothing like meat and wine tastes nothing
> like blood.
>
> I suppose they could always argue that god flesh tastes like a cracker
> and god blood tastes like wine, but even they have to see that this is
> an obvious begging of the question.


Actually, as I understand it; they devide the character of the elements into
"accidents" and "essence". "accidence includes all physical characteristics,
"essince" is a deeper reality, preceivable only by faith. They insist that
this is not the same thing at all as the elements being only symbols of
flesh and blood.

Joe
>
> --
> "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,

deserve neither liberty or security"
> - Benjamin Franklin



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In article >,
"zayton" > wrote:

> "Beowulf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:29:16 GMT, Steve Knight >
> > ejaculated:
> >
> > >On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,
> > >(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:
> > >
> > >>Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
> > >>the ethics of veganism.
> > >
> > > Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
> > >this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
> > >their saviors body. He got ****ed and said there was nothing
> > >'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
> > >word
> > >
> > > I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'
> > >
> > > Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

> >
> > What I really don't get about Catholics is that the wafer is still
> > obviously a cracker and that the wine is still a Merlot or Chianti or
> > whatever. Crackers taste nothing like meat and wine tastes nothing
> > like blood.
> >
> > I suppose they could always argue that god flesh tastes like a cracker
> > and god blood tastes like wine, but even they have to see that this is
> > an obvious begging of the question.

>
> Actually, as I understand it; they devide the character of the elements into
> "accidents" and "essence". "accidence includes all physical characteristics,
> "essince" is a deeper reality, preceivable only by faith. They insist that
> this is not the same thing at all as the elements being only symbols of
> flesh and blood.
>

It's magic!

Your description is pretty much what the Catholic nuns taught me in
school many, many years ago. It sounded silly to me back then too, but
I knew better than to say anything at the time.
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Dont want the lot, my dear sweet Dave.
Theres naught to give, no soul to save!
I do not want it... here... or now
I do not want it, any how!

Ive researched all I care to do
So here! I give the lot to YOU!

You keep the lot, I say...
Gee whiz!
Theres no more room under my bed
as it is.

___
/uesday
/<night (tho theres still room in my closet...hrm.....)

On 12/3/03 6:00 PM, David Chariot at wrote:

>
>
> Tuesday Knight wrote:
>>
>> I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.
>>
>> I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?
>>
>> Just asking cuz you seem kinna blurty and you didnt make much sense. Then
>> again, I wasnt really paying attention. I have Christian A.D.D.
>> ___
>> /uesday
>> /<night

>
> You must give a little to gain the lot.
> Research helps where you lose the plot.
>
> Peace be with you.


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Would you please stop cross-posting?

Thanks in advance.

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On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:56:51 -0600, "zayton" >
ejaculated:

>
>"Beowulf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:29:16 GMT, Steve Knight >
>> ejaculated:
>>
>> >On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,
>> >(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:
>> >
>> >>Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
>> >>the ethics of veganism.
>> >
>> > Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
>> >this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
>> >their saviors body. He got ****ed and said there was nothing
>> >'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
>> >word
>> >
>> > I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'
>> >
>> > Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

>>
>> What I really don't get about Catholics is that the wafer is still
>> obviously a cracker and that the wine is still a Merlot or Chianti or
>> whatever. Crackers taste nothing like meat and wine tastes nothing
>> like blood.
>>
>> I suppose they could always argue that god flesh tastes like a cracker
>> and god blood tastes like wine, but even they have to see that this is
>> an obvious begging of the question.

>
>Actually, as I understand it; they devide the character of the elements into
>"accidents" and "essence". "accidence includes all physical characteristics,
>"essince" is a deeper reality, preceivable only by faith. They insist that
>this is not the same thing at all as the elements being only symbols of
>flesh and blood.


How does that differ at all from consubstantiation? Which is a
heresy, accourding to the Catholic Encyclopedia:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04322a.htm

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Please stop cross-posting.

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Please stop cross-posting.

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