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Free range Egg Question
> That's crazy. If everyone was a vegan, there'd still be lots of cows, > running around in giant herds, like buffalos, and wild chickens flapping > around everywhere, and pigs too... Not dairy cows. Dairy cows are not capable of surviving wild anymore than a poodle could survive if turned loose in the wild of Alaska. Kala Thompson Farmer Richland Center, Wi USA -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Free range Egg Question-correction
Most are > slaughtered at 14 or so month of age. That should read "24 month of age" Sorry about that. Kala -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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"Xyzzy" > wrote
> I would like to get my eggs from this kind of a farm. Where can I get > information on local (Pennsylvania) suppliers? http://www.eatwild.com/ Skip & Christy Hensler THE ROCK GARDEN Newport, WA http://www.povn.com/rock/ |
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"The Rock Garden" > wrote in message >...
> "Xyzzy" > wrote > > > I would like to get my eggs from this kind of a farm. Where can I get > > information on local (Pennsylvania) suppliers? > > > http://www.eatwild.com/ Nice! > > > > Skip & Christy Hensler > THE ROCK GARDEN > Newport, WA > http://www.povn.com/rock/ |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:57:10 -0600, "Russ Thompson" > wrote:
> > >> That's crazy. If everyone was a vegan, there'd still be lots of cows, >> running around in giant herds, like buffalos, and wild chickens flapping >> around everywhere, and pigs too... > >Not dairy cows. Dairy cows are not capable of surviving wild anymore than a >poodle could survive if turned loose in the wild of Alaska. > >Kala Thompson >Farmer >Richland Center, Wi USA Think what it would do to roads and traffic. It might put an end to insurance companies. |
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Free range Egg dump
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:02:36 -0700, Rat & Swan > wrote:
> > wrote: > ><snip> >>. Let's go on with it a bit to something I never see >> the "ARAs" point out, but it's a huge factor to me: sometimes >> one or more of the hens will single out and beat on another >> hen. ><snip> > >You "never see" it because you spend all your time with your head >up your ass. It's one of the factors AR literature points out >every time battery egg production is mentioned -- by either ARAs >or professional journals for battery egg producers. Why do you >think chickens are debeaked (have the tips of their beaks burned >off )? So they won't kill other chickens in the same cage >by pecking them to death. The people who do it even say that is >why they do it. In any social species, when the lowest-rank >animals can't escape from higher-rank animals (i.e. demonstrate >submission properly)they may end up badly hurt or killed. > >Rat Show me an example of "ARAs" describing the conditions that make a hen afraid to pull her head out of a corner. How do you think this might relate to the idea of their feet growing into the wire floor (or whatever)? |
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Free range Egg dump
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:02:36 -0700, Rat & Swan > wrote:
> > wrote: > ><snip> >>. Let's go on with it a bit to something I never see >> the "ARAs" point out, but it's a huge factor to me: sometimes >> one or more of the hens will single out and beat on another >> hen. ><snip> > >You "never see" it because you spend all your time with your head >up your ass. What a stupid thing to write. And a lie too! Until now I had a bit more respect for you than for the Gonad, but apparently you're all pretty much the same. >It's one of the factors AR literature points out >every time battery egg production is mentioned I feel it's safe to say that you can't produce a single example of "ARAs" referring to what I referred to--and which you snipped-- which is just another form of dishonesty. >-- by either ARAs >or professional journals for battery egg producers. Why do you >think chickens are debeaked (have the tips of their beaks burned >off )? So they won't kill other chickens in the same cage >by pecking them to death. Do you believe it prevents chickens from killing each other? If so, how exactly do you think it does so? >The people who do it even say that is >why they do it. In any social species, when the lowest-rank >animals can't escape from higher-rank animals (i.e. demonstrate >submission properly)they may end up badly hurt or killed. > >Rat |
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Free range Egg dump
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:39:44 -0500, "Miller" > wrote:
> > wrote in message .. . >> On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:33:20 -0500, "Miller" > wrote: >> >> >It just blows my mind how hot certain people get over this particular >issue. >> > >> >Scott >> >> Over which particular issue? If you mean cage free eggs >> in particular, think about this situation: There are four hens >> in a cage that is so low they can't flap their wings. They don't >> have much room to move around at all. They are on wire >> mesh, so they can't scratch or take a dust bath. If you were >> in such a position you might think it was overly restrictive. I >> think it is. Let's go on with it a bit to something I never see >> the "ARAs" point out, but it's a huge factor to me: sometimes >> one or more of the hens will single out and beat on another >> hen. Sometimes the abused hen will pull her head out of the >> corner, and head toward another part of the cage...one of >> the abusers will beat on her and send her another direction >> ...another abuser will beat on her over there...she will try to >> get away from them but can't, so will eventually burry her >> head in a corner again to keep it from getting beaten on. >> Every time she pulls her head out she gets beaten on, and >> she lives in fear all of the time. If you just don't care about >> things like that, then that's just the type of person you are >> and you're not likely to ever understand why any people >> would consider it significant. >> Do you think there are any animal related situations >> that people should get hot about? If so, which ones? > >I mean, go out and do something about it then, for crissakes! Do you think >ranting on internet newsgroups about anything ever does any good? > >Scott Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't. Some animals benefit from being raised for food. Some of them don't. Can you answer my questions now? |
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