http://munews.missouri.edu/news-rele...uce-safety.php

Any food could potentially contain bacteria, according to Clarke, who
also
is an MU Extension state specialist. His best advice is to keep produce
cold, wash hands before handling, and wash all surfaces to eliminate
cross-contamination. Another alternative is to cook all produce.

"We like our fresh produce, and we don't want to cook or can
everything,"
Clarke said. "Contamination could happen 1,000 miles away because
someone
didn't wash his or her hands. A home isn't a sterile environment either,
so
something can happen to contaminate produce in your own home. Hopefully,
if
you are healthy whatever contamination that might be present will not
harm
you."

Unless you are immunocompromised you should not worry.
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> wrote in message
...
> http://munews.missouri.edu/news-rele...uce-safety.php
>
> Any food could potentially contain bacteria, according to Clarke, who
> also
> is an MU Extension state specialist. His best advice is to keep produce
> cold, wash hands before handling, and wash all surfaces to eliminate
> cross-contamination. Another alternative is to cook all produce.
>
> "We like our fresh produce, and we don't want to cook or can
> everything,"
> Clarke said. "Contamination could happen 1,000 miles away because
> someone
> didn't wash his or her hands. A home isn't a sterile environment either,
> so
> something can happen to contaminate produce in your own home. Hopefully,
> if
> you are healthy whatever contamination that might be present will not
> harm
> you."
>

"Unless you are immunocompromised you should not worry."

Are you?

wrote:

--snipped the propaganda--

FUD!

shame on you.

ned.

no, i am ok, but i know some who are not

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> wrote in message
...
> "Unless you are immunocompromised you should not worry."
>
> Are you?

> wrote in message
...
> http://munews.missouri.edu/news-rele...uce-safety.php
>
> Any food could potentially contain bacteria, according to Clarke, who
> also
> is an MU Extension state specialist. His best advice is to keep produce
> cold, wash hands before handling, and wash all surfaces to eliminate
> cross-contamination. Another alternative is to cook all produce.
>
> "We like our fresh produce, and we don't want to cook or can
> everything,"
> Clarke said. "Contamination could happen 1,000 miles away because
> someone
> didn't wash his or her hands. A home isn't a sterile environment either,
> so
> something can happen to contaminate produce in your own home. Hopefully,
> if
> you are healthy whatever contamination that might be present will not
> harm
> you."

I and my family have eaten at Hundreds of salad bars in Texas and LA and
have never gotten ill




>

On 23 Sep 2008 13:11:47 GMT, wrote:

>http://munews.missouri.edu/news-rele...uce-safety.php
>
>Any food could potentially contain bacteria, according to Clarke, who
>also
>is an MU Extension state specialist. His best advice is to keep produce
>cold, wash hands before handling, and wash all surfaces to eliminate
>cross-contamination.

How about chicken? Pork? Beef? Lamb?

>http://munews.missouri.edu/news-rele...uce-safety.php
>
>Any food could potentially contain bacteria, according to Clarke, who
>also
>is an MU Extension state specialist. His best advice is to keep produce
>cold, wash hands before handling, and wash all surfaces to eliminate
>cross-contamination. Another alternative is to cook all produce.

"How about chicken? Pork? Beef? Lamb?"

Of course.

dh@. wrote:
> On 23 Sep 2008 13:11:47 GMT, wrote:
>
>> http://munews.missouri.edu/news-rele...uce-safety.php
>>
>> Any food could potentially contain bacteria, according to Clarke, who
>> also
>> is an MU Extension state specialist. His best advice is to keep produce
>> cold, wash hands before handling, and wash all surfaces to eliminate
>> cross-contamination.
>
> How about chicken? Pork? Beef? Lamb?

How about you shut your stupid ignorant cracker yap, Goo?

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 Goo tried to defend the misnomer:

>dh@. wrote:
>> On 23 Sep 2008 13:11:47 GMT, wrote:
>>
>>> http://munews.missouri.edu/news-rele...uce-safety.php
>>>
>>> Any food could potentially contain bacteria, according to Clarke, who
>>> also
>>> is an MU Extension state specialist. His best advice is to keep produce
>>> cold, wash hands before handling, and wash all surfaces to eliminate
>>> cross-contamination.
>>
>> How about chicken? Pork? Beef? Lamb?
>
>How about you shut your stupid ignorant cracker yap, Goo?

How do you think "He" is keeping you down, Goo?

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 Goo wrote in absurd denial:

>On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 dh@. challenged an inept Goober to explain:
>
>>On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 Goo tried to defend the misnomer:
>>
>>>dh@. wrote:
>>>> On 23 Sep 2008 13:11:47 GMT, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://munews.missouri.edu/news-rele...uce-safety.php
>>>>>
>>>>> Any food could potentially contain bacteria, according to Clarke, who
>>>>> also
>>>>> is an MU Extension state specialist. His best advice is to keep produce
>>>>> cold, wash hands before handling, and wash all surfaces to eliminate
>>>>> cross-contamination.
>>>>
>>>> How about chicken? Pork? Beef? Lamb?
>>>
>>>How about you shut your stupid ignorant cracker yap, Goo?
>>
>> How do you think "He" is keeping you down, Goo?
>
>No "He" or "Him"

Try explaining why you think you don't benefit from your life without
referring to "Him" Goo. Go:

(We know...we know...the Goober can't even try...not ever...)

wrote:
> "Unless you are immunocompromised you should not worry."
>
> Are you?

STOP the insults, or LEAVE!!!


alt.food.vegan.SCIENCE is about SCIENCE.
ALL other issues are OFF TOPIC here.
Please cooperate.

NO SPAMMING.
NO NONSENSE ABOUT "ANIMAL RIGHTS"
NO RELIGIOUS BELIEFS

Laurie Forti, Moderator

alt.food.vegan.science

wrote:

> "How about chicken? Pork? Beef? Lamb?"

TCCampbell; The China Study
http://tinyurl.com/2v689m
http://tinyurl.com/4cwbz4
video
http://tinyurl.com/6lcda6

The largest epidemiological study ever`done has proven
that the consumption of animal protein and animal fat is THE cause of
currently-popular "degenerative diseases".
You can not disprove anything with facts and logic.
I hereby challenge YOU to refute ANYthing Campbell said with proper
references and logic.

OK, smart ass, let's go.
You're in with the big dogs, now; can you hack it??
NO fancy footwork, no evasions, just facts and logic.

Laurie

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ALL other issues are OFF TOPIC here.
Please cooperate.

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NO RELIGIOUS BELIEFS

Laurie Forti, Moderator

alt.food.vegan.science

"Laurie" > wrote
> wrote:
>
>> "How about chicken? Pork? Beef? Lamb?"
>
> TCCampbell; The China Study
> http://tinyurl.com/2v689m
> http://tinyurl.com/4cwbz4
> video
> http://tinyurl.com/6lcda6
>
> The largest epidemiological study ever`done has proven
> that the consumption of animal protein and animal fat is THE cause of
> currently-popular "degenerative diseases".

That is a lie, the "China study" did not "prove" any such thing. To start
with, nobody with any kind of background in science would make that type of
claim. The very wording screams *DIET FRAUD*.

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/China-Study.html

wrote:

> "How about chicken? Pork? Beef? Lamb?""

Of course true to form, I did not write the above. It appeared in a
post about food borne bacteria and illness that might occur. Consider
the below in contrast to the subjectline. Seems like a schoolyard bully
posturing kind of thing to me. Seems we have here a case of
testosterone poisoning. What happened to excluding insults?

"" I hereby challenge YOU to refute ANYthing Campbell said with proper
references and logic.

OK, smart ass, let's go.
You're in with the big dogs, now; can you hack it??
NO fancy footwork, no evasions, just facts and logic."

TCCampbell; The China Study

I have not read the book but do have a couple of thoughts about it.
Beyond that, I'm not interested in the least in this childish stunt.
The thesis as it seems to be:

""Drawing on the project findings in rural China, but going far beyond
those findings, The China Study details the connection between nutrition
and heart disease, diabetes and cancer.""

Currently the world's highest rate for heart disease and diabetes is
india where meat consumption is low. As physical activity has decreased
and obesity increased in a growing urbanization context that level has
also increased.

A similar pattern is also the case in china when comparing rural and
urban contexts and similar changes; heart disease and diabetes have
increased. That was the setting for the campbell book apparently and in
light of this increase might have to be revisited.

Cancer for india is reviewed he

'Cancer Risk and Diet in India'

http://www.jpgmonline.com/article.as...=2003;volume=4

As for china, the same trend in cancer occurs:

"China has 20 percent of the world's total of new cancer cases (2.2
million cases)""

snip

(CNN) -- Poor countries have cancer rates much closer to those of rich
nations, reversing a long-held belief among medical researchers, a study
released Thursday reports.

"You're seeing some very interesting trends where cancer is no longer
rare in the developing world," said Fadlo Khuri, a cancer researcher at
Emory University's Winship Cancer Institute in Atlanta, Georgia, who
reviewed the study by the International Agency for Research on Cancer.

Health officials once assumed that people in the developing world rarely
lived long enough for many cancers to develop.

But the study, published in the American Cancer Society's journal, shows
a different trend among cancer deaths.

This seems more consistant with the factors noted for india and china as
to their increase in heart disease and diabetes then it does for
increase in meat intake alone.

I note also something I have mentioned before, each end of the spectrum
of food cults have oppisite views on such topics. Here is the price
foundation take on the campbell book:

'What Dr. Campbell Won't Tell You About the China Study'

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/China-Study.html