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Re what about the plants rights? And all bullshit meat-eaters wrote
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> > > lid wrote: > > > > what about the plants rights? > > > > Ofcourse they need rights and RESPECT! > > > > > > Okay then. That's what I thought. > > > > > > > We can't live without diversity! > > > > > > I enjoy diversity. I love beef, pork, chicken, rabbit, fish.... pretty > > > much all traditionally eaten meats. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No.... the way you think is only your own profit just like most people do!! you destroy diversity, responsible for that to! you do not think further than what you eat you see only what's on your dish you even do not known what's happend in this world what happens with animal sufferings over the whole world and do not even care at all! You just think on yourself especially you just has looked to all the others and think "look how smart I'm" or "look how funny I'm" BTW we knows better, we have better things to do and there is much more than meat only! There are even better products than meat! And healthy! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > But it's not the same as animals! ANd you knows that very well! > > > > > > They are both living things and they both are used by other species as > > > food. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- that's correct ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > So, you better ask "Do animals have rights"? > > > > > > The right to be grilled to medium rare and served with garlic butter > > > and a nice red wine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ you're reaction here is pathetic (or is it funny?) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Animals can't speak but just like we, they all want to live! > > > > > > And plants aren't genetically wired to live and survive? Their purpose > > > is to procreate, just like animals. My guess is that they want to live. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- every life forms want to live even you! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > At some point they are even smarter than we! > > > > > > Good for them. Then they will be able to avoid my snares and my hunting > > > efforts and avoid being domesticated fand raised for food. But the less > > > smarter ones that don't get away will still taste as good as the smart > > > ones. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ first of all, you don't live in a world 2000 years ago! we live now , we do not have the need anymore to killed millions animals everyday to give them stress, pain, sickness experiment and killing! second fight with equal weapons, by hand! We shall see who's faster, smarter and stronger... third: you writing bullshit fourth: please give me something to argue? not stupid answers please. we live almost in the year 2007! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > SO, > > > > they need it to have rights! > > > > > > They have the same rights as any prey animal. Or any animal for that > > > matter. We all can succumb to death from outside forces eventually, > > > whether as prey or accidentally or otherwise. Same rights. > > > > > > > And I hope very fast! > > > > > > > > BTW > > > > Every minute we grow with about 147 people in this world, EVERY MINUTE MAN!!! > > > > > > Oh well. I can't control that and neither can you. But nature has a way > > > of culling the herd and that usually means the weakest, the stupidest > > > or the sick and the nutritionally depleted idiots who only eat a > > > nutritionally poor vegan diet. By eating meat, I am strengthening the > > > possibility of my families short term and long term survival. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- that's exactly the problem now, we do not live side by side with nature we only destroy that system! to hard 4 ye? ;o) and before you think i must confessed i'm not a doom-thinking person at all nor a negative one! i'm only a realist, sorry BTW Al Gore is also a realist... and his movie is not new to me! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Shall we all still eating animal-products over 20 years? I don't think so! > > > > > > My family will. If we have to raise and butcher them ourselves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- i think your whole family shall be suffering on sickness, cholesterol.... or other avoiding sickness by then.... oh yeah by then they make all kind of expensive pills isn't it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are not here for suffering! > > > > > > Not to worry. Most animal husbanders agree with you and provide their > > > animals with good quality creature comforts and dispatch them as > > > quickly and as humanely as possible. And most hunters want a god quick > > > clean kill so as to not lose the animal or have to waste time and lose > > > meat quality as the animal slowly dies. > > > > > > The goal is quality meat, and that requires a humane death. Which is > > > way more consideration given than in nature when animals kill other > > > animals, now that is brutal stuff. Wolves, larger cats and other > > > predators have been known for starting to eat the larger prey (like > > > water buffalo, dear, elk, etc.) from the rump forward before they are > > > even dead. > > > > > > TC >----------------------------------------------------------------- that's NOT correct and you know it! Still being argued only for your own profits! I've seen many animals killed by hunters or whatever, i know what I've seen! and so many other people are agree with me... people only think on it's own profit, that's all man! I can show you hours of crueality, there are so many unhuman movies off kkilling and suffering animals some of them makes you really sick for weeks!!! What you typed here is bullshit and you know t! just look at peta.tv for example, and see what I mean! If you still feel nothing? You do not have a good-heart! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- <plonk!> is that a sound in your head??? ;o)) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Re what about the plants rights? And all bullshit meat-eaters wrote
>> > > Good for them. Then they will be able to avoid my snares and my
> hunting >> > > efforts and avoid being domesticated fand raised for food. But the > less >> > > smarter ones that don't get away will still taste as good as the >> > > smart >> > > ones. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > first of all, you don't live in a world 2000 years ago! > we live now , we do not have the need anymore to killed millions animals > everyday > to give them stress, pain, sickness experiment and killing! > second fight with equal weapons, by hand! We shall see who's faster, > smarter and stronger... > third: you writing bullshit > fourth: please give me something to argue? not stupid answers please. > we live almost in the year 2007! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You're wrong, as usual. Every vegan loon, as you are proving, is ignorant and stupid. The fact is that YOU contribute to the death and suffering of untold billions of animals just to keep your convenient lifestyle available. Why do you never do ANYTHING to eliminate or alleviate any of those far more brutal, inhumane deaths, killer? The animals that die for your crop production die far more horrendous deaths than slaughterhouse or hunted animals do. The animals that die, completley unnecessarily, for your entertainment here on usenet die far more brutally than slaughterhouse or hunted animals do. But, as all other brainwashed vegan religious loons, you refuse to even look at, much less discuss the far greater impact you have on animals and the environment than some people with meat-included diets. Why is that? Willful ignorance or terminal stupidity? >> > > >> > > > SO, >> > > > they need it to have rights! >> > > >> > > They have the same rights as any prey animal. Or any animal for that >> > > matter. We all can succumb to death from outside forces eventually, >> > > whether as prey or accidentally or otherwise. Same rights. >> > > >> > > > And I hope very fast! >> > > > >> > > > BTW >> > > > Every minute we grow with about 147 people in this world, EVERY > MINUTE MAN!!! >> > > >> > > Oh well. I can't control that and neither can you. But nature has a > way >> > > of culling the herd and that usually means the weakest, the stupidest >> > > or the sick and the nutritionally depleted idiots who only eat a >> > > nutritionally poor vegan diet. By eating meat, I am strengthening the >> > > possibility of my families short term and long term survival. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > that's exactly the problem now, we do not live side by side with nature > we only destroy that system! > to hard 4 ye? ;o) > and before you think i must confessed > i'm not a doom-thinking person at all nor a negative one! > i'm only a realist, sorry > BTW Al Gore is also a realist... and his movie is not new to me! > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Like you, Algore is a killer. A killer of the envirnment and animals. Afterall, he created the internet, eh? The ultimate in unnecessary power usage and killing... >> > > >> > > > Shall we all still eating animal-products over 20 years? I don't > think so! >> > > >> > > My family will. If we have to raise and butcher them ourselves. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > i think your whole family shall be suffering on sickness, cholesterol.... > or other avoiding sickness by then.... > oh yeah by then they make all kind of expensive pills isn't it? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOL Nice bit of vegan ignorance. vegan diets can be just as terrible as any other diet, fool. >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > They are not here for suffering! >> > > >> > > Not to worry. Most animal husbanders agree with you and provide their >> > > animals with good quality creature comforts and dispatch them as >> > > quickly and as humanely as possible. And most hunters want a god >> > > quick >> > > clean kill so as to not lose the animal or have to waste time and >> > > lose >> > > meat quality as the animal slowly dies. >> > > >> > > The goal is quality meat, and that requires a humane death. Which is >> > > way more consideration given than in nature when animals kill other >> > > animals, now that is brutal stuff. Wolves, larger cats and other >> > > predators have been known for starting to eat the larger prey (like >> > > water buffalo, dear, elk, etc.) from the rump forward before they are >> > > even dead. >> > > >> > > TC >>----------------------------------------------------------------- > that's NOT correct and you know it! > Still being argued only for your own profits! > I've seen many animals killed by hunters or whatever, i know what I've > seen! > and so many other people are agree with me... > people only think on it's own profit, that's all man! > I can show you hours of crueality, there are so many unhuman movies > off kkilling and suffering animals some of them makes you really sick for > weeks!!! > What you typed here is bullshit and you know t! > > just look at peta.tv for example, and see what I mean! > If you still feel nothing? You do not have a good-heart! > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- uh, no, you are wrong. Many prey animals are alive when they are being eaten. Your handwaving and denials won't change reality, killer. I've seen many hunted animals too. They die a far more humane death than any of the untold millions of animals that die in crop production. Dare to tell us how humane it is for animals to be sliced, diced, shredded, dis-membered, poisoned and left to rot is? far more animals die for power generation than all the hunted animals combined. tell us how humane it is to be shredded in turbines or have your habitat destroyed in heated water. > <plonk!> is that a sound in your head??? ;o)) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > |
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