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Old 17-12-2006, 07:22 PM posted to alt.food.vegan
 
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Default Re what about the plants rights? And all bullshit meat-eaters wrote

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lid wrote:
what about the plants rights?
Ofcourse they need rights and RESPECT!

Okay then. That's what I thought.

We can't live without diversity!

I enjoy diversity. I love beef, pork, chicken, rabbit, fish.... pretty
much all traditionally eaten meats.

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No.... the way you think is only your own profit
just like most people do!!
you destroy diversity, responsible for that to!
you do not think further than what you eat
you see only what's on your dish
you even do not known what's happend in this world
what happens with animal sufferings over the whole world and do not even care at all!
You just think on yourself
especially you just has looked to all the others and think "look how smart I'm"
or
"look how funny I'm"

BTW we knows better, we have better things to do and there is much more than meat only!
There are even better products than meat! And healthy!
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But it's not the same as animals! ANd you knows that very well!

They are both living things and they both are used by other species as
food.

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that's correct
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So, you better ask "Do animals have rights"?

The right to be grilled to medium rare and served with garlic butter
and a nice red wine.

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you're reaction here is pathetic (or is it funny?)
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Animals can't speak but just like we, they all want to live!

And plants aren't genetically wired to live and survive? Their purpose
is to procreate, just like animals. My guess is that they want to

live.
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every life forms want to live even you!
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At some point they are even smarter than we!

Good for them. Then they will be able to avoid my snares and my

hunting
efforts and avoid being domesticated fand raised for food. But the

less
smarter ones that don't get away will still taste as good as the smart
ones.

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first of all, you don't live in a world 2000 years ago!
we live now , we do not have the need anymore to killed millions animals everyday
to give them stress, pain, sickness experiment and killing!
second fight with equal weapons, by hand! We shall see who's faster, smarter and stronger...
third: you writing bullshit
fourth: please give me something to argue? not stupid answers please.
we live almost in the year 2007!
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SO,
they need it to have rights!

They have the same rights as any prey animal. Or any animal for that
matter. We all can succumb to death from outside forces eventually,
whether as prey or accidentally or otherwise. Same rights.

And I hope very fast!

BTW
Every minute we grow with about 147 people in this world, EVERY

MINUTE MAN!!!

Oh well. I can't control that and neither can you. But nature has a

way
of culling the herd and that usually means the weakest, the stupidest
or the sick and the nutritionally depleted idiots who only eat a
nutritionally poor vegan diet. By eating meat, I am strengthening the
possibility of my families short term and long term survival.

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that's exactly the problem now, we do not live side by side with nature
we only destroy that system!
to hard 4 ye? ;o)
and before you think i must confessed
i'm not a doom-thinking person at all nor a negative one!
i'm only a realist, sorry
BTW Al Gore is also a realist... and his movie is not new to me!
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Shall we all still eating animal-products over 20 years? I don't

think so!

My family will. If we have to raise and butcher them ourselves.


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i think your whole family shall be suffering on sickness, cholesterol....
or other avoiding sickness by then....
oh yeah by then they make all kind of expensive pills isn't it?
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They are not here for suffering!

Not to worry. Most animal husbanders agree with you and provide their
animals with good quality creature comforts and dispatch them as
quickly and as humanely as possible. And most hunters want a god quick
clean kill so as to not lose the animal or have to waste time and lose
meat quality as the animal slowly dies.

The goal is quality meat, and that requires a humane death. Which is
way more consideration given than in nature when animals kill other
animals, now that is brutal stuff. Wolves, larger cats and other
predators have been known for starting to eat the larger prey (like
water buffalo, dear, elk, etc.) from the rump forward before they are
even dead.

TC

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that's NOT correct and you know it!
Still being argued only for your own profits!
I've seen many animals killed by hunters or whatever, i know what I've seen!
and so many other people are agree with me...
people only think on it's own profit, that's all man!
I can show you hours of crueality, there are so many unhuman movies
off kkilling and suffering animals some of them makes you really sick for weeks!!!
What you typed here is bullshit and you know t!

just look at peta.tv for example, and see what I mean!
If you still feel nothing? You do not have a good-heart!
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plonk! is that a sound in your head??? ;o))

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Default Re what about the plants rights? And all bullshit meat-eaters wrote


lid wrote:
2
lid wrote:
what about the plants rights?
Ofcourse they need rights and RESPECT!

Okay then. That's what I thought.

We can't live without diversity!

I enjoy diversity. I love beef, pork, chicken, rabbit, fish.... pretty
much all traditionally eaten meats.

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No.... the way you think is only your own profit
just like most people do!!


Actually no. I think of my families health.

you destroy diversity, responsible for that to!


Actually no. Diversity in the wild goes on unfettered.

you do not think further than what you eat


Actually no. I think of family and health and happiness and security,
just like every other human being.

you see only what's on your dish


Actually no, but we aren't afraid to celebrate and enjoy what is on our
plates and the health and happiness it brings us.

you even do not known what's happend in this world


Actually yes, it is idiots like vegans that miss what this world is and
what we are about. They want to pretend that we are what we are not and
they want us to deny the reality of who and what we are..

what happens with animal sufferings over the whole world and do not even care at all!


I do care. That is why I want my meat producer to run a clean
stress-free operation and to use humane method to harvest the meat. And
I want my meat handlers to run clean operations to ensure that the meat
is handled properly for best quality.

You just think on yourself


Nope, I think of myself, my family and my kids and their kida and their
kids and their kids. And I will teach them that proper nutrition
requires animal-sourced foods. And I will teach them to appreciate the
role that these animals play in the world and how we benefit by
respecting animals and treating them with respect.

especially you just has looked to all the others and think "look how smart I'm"
or
"look how funny I'm"


Well, especially compared to vegans, I am smart and funny. You guys
could read a little bit and loosen up too. That is your choice to
remain ignorant of basic nutritional facts and have no sense of humour
about it.


BTW we knows better, we have better things to do and there is much more than meat only!


OK so you "knows" better, do ya? Here's something you apparently don't
"knows" better about. No one is suggesting meat only. We are suggesting
that with no animal sourced food at all, you are causing yourselves and
your children malnourishment. Your diet MUST contain animal sourced
foods to get optimal nutrtion. Healthy meat eaters will also eat
healthy nutrient-rich whole food produce too. See, we don't ban an
entire category of foods just because we can't deal with the reality of
our human nature.

There are even better products than meat! And healthy!


Without meat and other animal sourced foods you cannot be healthy.

It is tough for you to make this argument if you've ever had
slow-cooked southern style BBQ ribs. Or chicken wings. Or a perfectly
roasted chicken with bread stuffing, mashed potatoes and gravy. Or just
a simple beef burger grilled in the backyard with a cold beer.

I constantly read these recipes from vegans trying to mimic the taste
and texture of real meat with nutritionally deficient tasteless GMO
soybean paste/curd crap. Even the most diehard vegans crave the real
taste and the real nutrition that comes from real meat. And even you
can't deny that.

TC

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