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Slightly different Pu-erh recommebdation.
Hi people,
I'm looking for a morning tea, that is, strongly caffinated as possible, taste with character, and convient, Tuocha, or at arte some sort of bingcha, would fit the bill bicely -- that pu-erh has medicinal effects doesn't hurt either. (BTW, I used to habitually use a strongly brewed Assam, spiced to taste, lightened with milk or soymilk & sweetened with plenty of honey, for *everything*. But now the doctors have me off honey, sugar, milk in all forms, etc -- the low-carb diet from Hell, and I have been exploring Chinese teas by way of compensation.) Anyway, I have heard the "Camel's Breath" Toucha is pretty good for that purpose. Any other suggestions would be appewxiated. Also, can uou steep a beengha overnight (or for some long period) to fortify it, without damaging the taste too much? Thanks. Ozzy |
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On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 03:28:25 GMT, Ozzy > wrote:
>Hi people, > >I'm looking for a morning tea, that is, strongly caffinated as possible, >taste with character, and convient, Tuocha, or at arte some sort of >bingcha, would fit the bill bicely -- that pu-erh has medicinal effects >doesn't hurt either. > >(BTW, I used to habitually use a strongly brewed Assam, spiced to taste, >lightened with milk or soymilk & sweetened with plenty of honey, for >*everything*. But now the doctors have me off honey, sugar, milk in all >forms, etc -- the low-carb diet from Hell, and I have been exploring Chinese >teas by way of compensation.) > >Anyway, I have heard the "Camel's Breath" Toucha is pretty good for that >purpose. Any other suggestions would be appewxiated. > >Also, can uou steep a beengha overnight (or for some long period) to fortify >it, without damaging the taste too much? Thanks. > >Ozzy Hi Ozzy, You can indeed steep a black pu'er overnight and yield a very stout brew, but don't try that with a green pu'er. "Camel's Breath" is just one type of black pu'er, there are a lot of different black puers. My recommendation would be to select a vendor and let them guide you through your journey. If you don't have a local brick and mortar shop then try one from my Vendors page http://www.pu-erh.net/usvendors.html It does sound like the black puers are where you would want to start. Tell your vendor that you want the most robust black pu'er that they have. Let them make the recommendation. Pick one vendor and stick with them, the goal is to develop a relationship where the vendor learns your palate. I would recommend one of these vendors as a place to start: http://www.jingteashop.com/ http://www.teaspring.com/pu-erh-tea.asp http://stores.ebay.com/Yunnan-Sourcing-LLC http://www.sevencups.com/tea-shop/home.php?cat=281 http://www.houdeasianart.com Mike http://www.pu-erh.net Mike Petro http://www.pu-erh.net "In this work, when it shall be found that much is omitted, let it not be forgotten that much likewise is performed." Samuel Johnson, 1775, upon finishing his dictionary. |
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It's funny the Doctor has prohibited everything but the caffeine. I
drink pu in the evening because I don't feel it has the caffeine kick like others that seem to keep you awake. If you want caffeine, take any tea and brew it strong. The British know the art and kick of breakfast teas. You can buy sugar free Baker's chocolate and add that to your tea. My local tea shoppe has a sampler set specifically designed to wean coffee drinkers. Just add a commercial tea masala used for making chai without the cream and sugar. My experience pu won't oversteep. It seems to have a limiting switch. Take a CTC and let it set overnight and it'll turn to syrup (almost). Brew a strong imperial gunpowder and it'll make the hairs stand up on your neck. All tea is good for your health. Pu makes claims that might be good for type two diabetics. I personally wouldn't drink it if I was taking meds for the condition. Jim Ozzy wrote: > Hi people, > > I'm looking for a morning tea, that is, strongly caffinated as possible, > taste with character, and convient, Tuocha, or at arte some sort of > bingcha, would fit the bill bicely -- that pu-erh has medicinal effects > doesn't hurt either. > > (BTW, I used to habitually use a strongly brewed Assam, spiced to taste, > lightened with milk or soymilk & sweetened with plenty of honey, for > *everything*. But now the doctors have me off honey, sugar, milk in all > forms, etc -- the low-carb diet from Hell, and I have been exploring Chinese > teas by way of compensation.) > > Anyway, I have heard the "Camel's Breath" Toucha is pretty good for that > purpose. Any other suggestions would be appewxiated. > > Also, can uou steep a beengha overnight (or for some long period) to fortify > it, without damaging the taste too much? Thanks. > > Ozzy |
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"Space Cowboy" > skrev i meddelandet oups.com... > It's funny the Doctor has prohibited everything but the caffeine. I > drink pu in the evening because I don't feel it has the caffeine kick > like others that seem to keep you awake. If you want caffeine, take > any tea and brew it strong. The British know the art and kick of > breakfast teas. You can buy sugar free Baker's chocolate and add that > to your tea. My local tea shoppe has a sampler set specifically > designed to wean coffee drinkers. Just add a commercial tea masala > used for making chai without the cream and sugar. My experience pu > won't oversteep. It seems to have a limiting switch. Take a CTC and > let it set overnight and it'll turn to syrup (almost). Brew a strong > imperial gunpowder and it'll make the hairs stand up on your neck. All > tea is good for your health. Pu makes claims that might be good for > type two diabetics. I personally wouldn't drink it if I was taking > meds for the condition. What is baker's chocolate? /M |
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It is the unsweetened dark bitter chocolate used for cooking. You find
it in of all places the cooking section in your grocery under that name. The white baker's chocolate is just cocoa cream but acts as a natural sweetener. There are other sources of chocolate of even greater purity noted for medicinal value. I think chocolate is a great flavor for the right tea. Jim M=E5rten Nilsson wrote: > "Space Cowboy" > skrev i meddelandet > oups.com... > > You can buy sugar free Baker's chocolate and add that > > to your tea. > What is baker's chocolate? |
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"Space Cowboy" > wrote in
oups.com: > It's funny the Doctor has prohibited everything but the caffeine. I > drink pu in the evening because I don't feel it has the caffeine kick > like others that seem to keep you awake. If you want caffeine, take > any tea and brew it strong. The British know the art and kick of > breakfast teas. You can buy sugar free Baker's chocolate and add that > to your tea. My local tea shoppe has a sampler set specifically > designed to wean coffee drinkers. Just add a commercial tea masala > used for making chai without the cream and sugar. My experience pu > won't oversteep. It seems to have a limiting switch. Take a CTC and > let it set overnight and it'll turn to syrup (almost). Brew a strong > imperial gunpowder and it'll make the hairs stand up on your neck. All > tea is good for your health. Pu makes claims that might be good for > type two diabetics. I personally wouldn't drink it if I was taking > meds for the condition. > > Jim Thanks. Your story about pe-erh reminds me of a friend of mine who drinks weak tea with a little light cream before going to bed at night. It aparently works wonders (for him) as a soporific. For me, especially in the last few years, no caffienated drinks of any kind after a certain hour are best. BTW, in this doctor's opinion, whatever negative effects caffiene may have (e.g. possible overstimulation) are far outweighed by the health benefits of tea, specificaly its cancer fighting abilities in humans (he takes a dim view of the Linus Pauling report re those ["dissapointing"]). Baker's choclate, as it happens, is on his dietary guidelines... Ozzy |
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Mike Petro > wrote in
: > Hi Ozzy, > > You can indeed steep a black pu'er overnight and yield a very stout > brew, but don't try that with a green pu'er. "Camel's Breath" is just > one type of black pu'er, there are a lot of different black puers. My > recommendation would be to select a vendor and let them guide you > through your journey. If you don't have a local brick and mortar shop > then try one from my Vendors page http://www.pu-erh.net/usvendors.html > > It does sound like the black puers are where you would want to start. > Tell your vendor that you want the most robust black pu'er that they > have. Let them make the recommendation. > > Pick one vendor and stick with them, the goal is to develop a > relationship where the vendor learns your palate. I would recommend > one of these vendors as a place to start: > http://www.jingteashop.com/ > http://www.teaspring.com/pu-erh-tea.asp > http://stores.ebay.com/Yunnan-Sourcing-LLC > http://www.sevencups.com/tea-shop/home.php?cat=281 > http://www.houdeasianart.com > > Mike > http://www.pu-erh.net > Mike Petro > http://www.pu-erh.net > "In this work, when it shall be found that much is omitted, let it not > be forgotten that much likewise is performed." Samuel Johnson, 1775, > upon finishing his dictionary. Hi Mike. Thanks much, esp. for the URLs. Sounds logical... Ozzy |
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Ozzy > wrote:
> I'm looking for a morning tea, that is, strongly caffinated as possible, > taste with character, and convient, Tuocha, or at arte some sort of > bingcha, would fit the bill bicely -- that pu-erh has medicinal effects > doesn't hurt either. > Also, can uou steep a beengha overnight (or for some long period) to fortify > it, without damaging the taste too much? Thanks. My traditional morning cup is a standard black single-serving pu erh tuocha (little bowl) from Ten Ren. They sell bags full at their usual somewhat inflated prices, but it's still not very expensive (I think 20 cents per, if I remember correctly). If you know anyone going to China they can get them at about 5 percent of this price. It has a fair amount of caffeine, is good on a resteep, and can bear oversteeping without getting bitter. I don't know about overnight. If you want strong, use two. It doesn't get bitter very easily. Mike Petro's recommendations (as always for pu erh) are good too. I'm not convinced of any long term medical effects, but then I'm hard to convince. I and a friend or two have found black pu erh to settle our stomaches and to confer the other usual benefits of tea. Best, Rick. > Ozzy |
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