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RJP 17-01-2005 08:19 PM

Time vs. Temperature
 
I always use a mug infuser for my teas, and when I infuse
tea that requires something below the boiling point for the
water, I start with boiling water in the mug and then wait
for a fixed amount of time for the cooling to occur. I
had been estimating this, but recently I did a rather
careful measurement of it, pre-heating a good, accurate
thermometer to the boiling point and then holding the
bottom of it in the center of the mug to get good readings.

Starting with a thick-walled 12 oz. mug at room temperature,
here's the data:

Immediately after pouring - 202 F (heat going into mug, etc.)
1 minute - 190 F
2 minutes - 179 F
3 minutes - 172 F
4 minutes - 167 F
5 minutes - 163 F
6 minutes - 160 F


Randy

BenoitF 18-01-2005 02:26 PM

This is why I bought a thermal carafe two weeks ago...

Even at the 5th infusion, when drinking Oolong, the water is as hot as
it was on the 1st infusion. A cheap way to get a better oolong
experience!

Beno=EEt

RJP wrote:
> I always use a mug infuser for my teas, and when I infuse
> tea that requires something below the boiling point for the
> water, I start with boiling water in the mug and then wait
> for a fixed amount of time for the cooling to occur. I
> had been estimating this, but recently I did a rather
> careful measurement of it, pre-heating a good, accurate
> thermometer to the boiling point and then holding the
> bottom of it in the center of the mug to get good readings.
>
> Starting with a thick-walled 12 oz. mug at room temperature,
> here's the data:
>
> Immediately after pouring - 202 F (heat going into mug, etc.)
> 1 minute - 190 F
> 2 minutes - 179 F
> 3 minutes - 172 F
> 4 minutes - 167 F
> 5 minutes - 163 F
> 6 minutes - 160 F
>=20
>=20
> Randy



BenoitF 18-01-2005 02:26 PM

This is why I bought a thermal carafe two weeks ago...

Even at the 5th infusion, when drinking Oolong, the water is as hot as
it was on the 1st infusion. A cheap way to get a better oolong
experience!

Beno=EEt

RJP wrote:
> I always use a mug infuser for my teas, and when I infuse
> tea that requires something below the boiling point for the
> water, I start with boiling water in the mug and then wait
> for a fixed amount of time for the cooling to occur. I
> had been estimating this, but recently I did a rather
> careful measurement of it, pre-heating a good, accurate
> thermometer to the boiling point and then holding the
> bottom of it in the center of the mug to get good readings.
>
> Starting with a thick-walled 12 oz. mug at room temperature,
> here's the data:
>
> Immediately after pouring - 202 F (heat going into mug, etc.)
> 1 minute - 190 F
> 2 minutes - 179 F
> 3 minutes - 172 F
> 4 minutes - 167 F
> 5 minutes - 163 F
> 6 minutes - 160 F
>=20
>=20
> Randy



Bluesea 18-01-2005 07:43 PM

Excellent data for those who don't want to use a thermometer :).

Thanks.

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"RJP" > wrote in message
...
> I always use a mug infuser for my teas, and when I infuse
> tea that requires something below the boiling point for the
> water, I start with boiling water in the mug and then wait
> for a fixed amount of time for the cooling to occur. I
> had been estimating this, but recently I did a rather
> careful measurement of it, pre-heating a good, accurate
> thermometer to the boiling point and then holding the
> bottom of it in the center of the mug to get good readings.
>
> Starting with a thick-walled 12 oz. mug at room temperature,
> here's the data:
>
> Immediately after pouring - 202 F (heat going into mug, etc.)
> 1 minute - 190 F
> 2 minutes - 179 F
> 3 minutes - 172 F
> 4 minutes - 167 F
> 5 minutes - 163 F
> 6 minutes - 160 F
>
>
> Randy




Joseph Kubera 19-01-2005 05:24 AM

>Excellent data for those who don't want to use a thermometer :).
>


But somebody else's mug may cool at a different rate. No? Different size,
wall thickness, ambient temp...

Just causing trouble.

Joe


RJP 19-01-2005 03:48 PM

Joseph Kubera wrote:
> Bluesea wrote:
> >
> > Excellent data for those who don't want to use a thermometer :).
> >

>
> But somebody else's mug may cool at a different rate. No? Different size,
> wall thickness, ambient temp...
> Just causing trouble.


Well, sure, if you are worried about a degree or two. But I would expect
that most 12 oz. mugs and reasonable ambient temperatures would yield very
similar results. I would, however, expect 6 oz. cups or teapots to be
quite different and require a new set of measurements.

Also of note - my thermometer reads a much cooler temperature (over 10F cooler)
when it is allowed to rest on the bottom of the mug. I suppose this stands
to reason, but it is a warning to those who use thermometers that most of the
water may be significantly hotter than the thermometer reading if you just
dump the thermometer in the mug and let it rest there.


Randy

Bluesea 19-01-2005 11:55 PM


"Joseph Kubera" > wrote in message
...
> >Excellent data for those who don't want to use a thermometer :).

>
> But somebody else's mug may cool at a different rate. No? Different

size,
> wall thickness, ambient temp...


Yes, of course, but for those who don't use a thermometer, it gives them an
idea about what's going on. After all, he did specify that his is a 12 oz
thick-walled mug - very different from a 10 oz bone china mug or 8 oz glass
coffee...er, excuse me!...tea cup.

> Just causing trouble.


Yeah, yeah ;).

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