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Check this video out: https://instagram.com/p/1LQgpuHjLd/

Description: Caught this guy rubbing a puer brick on the street in the
Kunming market to make the wrapper look "old."

Not my own video, found it on Reddit.

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On 2015-04-08 08:58:21 +0000, Dario Niedermann said:

Check this video out: https://instagram.com/p/1LQgpuHjLd/

Description: Caught this guy rubbing a puer brick on the street in the
Kunming market to make the wrapper look "old."

Not my own video, found it on Reddit.


It seems like this is likely to be pretty pervasive. I also suspect
that puerh teas are upgraded by the substitution of a new wrapper as
well.

Popular puerh manufacturers have been taking steps against this such as
placing the tea in a sealed plastic bag with tiny air holes, and also
boxing the teas and affixing holographic sticker seals. These may be
effective to some degree but as time goes on, I think it's probable
that the situation will get much worse.

Stock up now - pherh improves with age, will never get any cheaper, and
is likely to be a better long-term investment than stocks and bonds.

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Oregonian Haruspex writes:

On 2015-04-08 08:58:21 +0000, Dario Niedermann said:

Check this video out: https://instagram.com/p/1LQgpuHjLd/

Description: Caught this guy rubbing a puer brick on the street in the
Kunming market to make the wrapper look "old."

Not my own video, found it on Reddit.


It seems like this is likely to be pretty pervasive. I also suspect
that puerh teas are upgraded by the substitution of a new wrapper as
well.

Popular puerh manufacturers have been taking steps against this such
as placing the tea in a sealed plastic bag with tiny air holes, and
also boxing the teas and affixing holographic sticker seals. These
may be effective to some degree but as time goes on, I think it's
probable that the situation will get much worse.

Stock up now - pherh improves with age, will never get any cheaper,
and is likely to be a better long-term investment than stocks and
bonds.


But it isnt that simple. A lot of people in China acted on that theory
in the early 2000s. There was a speculative frenzy now known as the
Puer Bubble. It ended just about 8 years ago, wiping out a large
number of people. A good place to read about this is Puer Tea:
Ancient Caravans and Urban Chic by Jinghong Zhang.

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On 2015-04-10 13:43:59 +0000, Lewis Perin said:

But it isnt that simple. A lot of people in China acted on that theory
in the early 2000s. There was a speculative frenzy now known as the
Puer Bubble. It ended just about 8 years ago, wiping out a large
number of people. A good place to read about this is Puer Tea:
Ancient Caravans and Urban Chic by Jinghong Zhang.


Thanks for the book recommendation - puerh literature is very difficult
to get in English.

I was aware of the puerh bubble but I didn't know that people were
wiped out financially. It would be interesting to see how and why,
especially seeing the kinds of prices that good 10+ year old puerh can
fetch these days.



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