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Sedative Effects of Tea
Hi all,
I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more specifically Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as though I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that have this effect. Anyone else notice this? Thanks, |
Yep,
Coffee makes me usually feel wide awake. Tea makes me feel calm, relaxed and awake. |
Yep,
Coffee makes me usually feel wide awake. Tea makes me feel calm, relaxed and awake. |
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0000, WadeM wrote:
> Hi all, > > I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more specifically > Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as though > I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a > state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that > have this effect. Anyone else notice this? > > Thanks, Yes, same here. I once had a little bit too much of Gunpowder tea, enough to sedate me sufficiently to not noticing that my car caught fire. Never drank that tea again. JB |
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0000, WadeM wrote:
> Hi all, > > I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more specifically > Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as though > I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a > state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that > have this effect. Anyone else notice this? > > Thanks, Yes, same here. I once had a little bit too much of Gunpowder tea, enough to sedate me sufficiently to not noticing that my car caught fire. Never drank that tea again. JB |
I would not call it sedative, I would call it alert introvertion. Very
alert, actually. Meaning that you are driven to a state when your self-awareness and world-awareness are no longer (or less) affected by the fidgeting around you. That is how I explain why the name of Guan Yin is used in connection of tea. Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me. Sasha. "WadeM" > wrote in message ... > Hi all, > > I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more specifically > Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as though > I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a > state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that > have > this effect. Anyone else notice this? > > Thanks, > > |
I would not call it sedative, I would call it alert introvertion. Very
alert, actually. Meaning that you are driven to a state when your self-awareness and world-awareness are no longer (or less) affected by the fidgeting around you. That is how I explain why the name of Guan Yin is used in connection of tea. Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me. Sasha. "WadeM" > wrote in message ... > Hi all, > > I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more specifically > Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as though > I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a > state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that > have > this effect. Anyone else notice this? > > Thanks, > > |
[Samar plays the scientist and says...]
I'm not sure what grade or cultivar of Dragon Well you drank, but taking the Longjing 43 cultivar as an example, a spring pick of that cultivar for processing into Dragon Well will yield the following main biochemicals: Amino Acid: 3.7% Polyphenols: 18.5% Catechins: 12.1% Caffeine: 4.0% Ratio of polyphenols and amino acids: 4.98 All the above would contribute to the clam state of mind, especially from the amino acids, which contain a chemical y-aminobutyric acid (GABARON), which calms the mind by slowing or inhibiting the movement of brain neurons. Between caffeine and y-aminobutyric acid, a balance is struck and it leaves you languid but aware of your surrounding. It sounds simplistic, I'm sure there's more involved, but at least you get the gist of it. Samar "J Boehm" > wrote in message et... > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0000, WadeM wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more >> specifically >> Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as >> though >> I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a >> state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that >> have this effect. Anyone else notice this? >> >> Thanks, > Yes, same here. I once had a little bit too much of Gunpowder tea, enough > to sedate me sufficiently to not noticing that my car caught fire. Never > drank that tea again. JB |
>>>> Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me.
>>>> >>>> Sasha. >>> >>> Qi >>> >> Rather Gong :) >> >> Sasha. >> >> > & we call it the art of splitting the water melon! :) > > Samar I am not sure I understand what you mean. Sasha. |
"Alex Chaihorsky" > wrote in message om... >>>>> Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me. >>>>> >>>>> Sasha. >>>> >>>> Qi >>>> >>> Rather Gong :) >>> >>> Sasha. >>> >>> >> & we call it the art of splitting the water melon! :) >> >> Samar > > I am not sure I understand what you mean. > > Sasha. > > :") That's a chinese joke, the movements of taichi qigong is very much someone trying to split a huge water melon into halves and then distributing it left and right... |
"Alex Chaihorsky" > wrote in message om... >>>>> Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me. >>>>> >>>>> Sasha. >>>> >>>> Qi >>>> >>> Rather Gong :) >>> >>> Sasha. >>> >>> >> & we call it the art of splitting the water melon! :) >> >> Samar > > I am not sure I understand what you mean. > > Sasha. > > :") That's a chinese joke, the movements of taichi qigong is very much someone trying to split a huge water melon into halves and then distributing it left and right... |
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>>>>> Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me. >>>>> >>>>> Sasha. >>>> >>>> Qi >>>> >>> Rather Gong :) >>> >>> Sasha. >>> >>> >> & we call it the art of splitting the water melon! :) >> >> Samar > > I am not sure I understand what you mean. > > Sasha. Sasha, That's a good thing. Michael |
Thank you for your informative reply. I am wondering where you found, or one
can find, this type of information? I suppose a Google search would be a good start. "samarkand" > wrote in message ... > [Samar plays the scientist and says...] > > I'm not sure what grade or cultivar of Dragon Well you drank, but taking the > Longjing 43 cultivar as an example, a spring pick of that cultivar for > processing into Dragon Well will yield the following main biochemicals: > > Amino Acid: 3.7% > Polyphenols: 18.5% > Catechins: 12.1% > Caffeine: 4.0% > Ratio of polyphenols and amino acids: 4.98 > > All the above would contribute to the clam state of mind, especially from > the amino acids, which contain a chemical y-aminobutyric acid (GABARON), > which calms the mind by slowing or inhibiting the movement of brain neurons. > Between caffeine and y-aminobutyric acid, a balance is struck and it leaves > you languid but aware of your surrounding. > > It sounds simplistic, I'm sure there's more involved, but at least you get > the gist of it. > > Samar > > "J Boehm" > wrote in message > et... > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0000, WadeM wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more > >> specifically > >> Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as > >> though > >> I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a > >> state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that > >> have this effect. Anyone else notice this? > >> > >> Thanks, > > Yes, same here. I once had a little bit too much of Gunpowder tea, enough > > to sedate me sufficiently to not noticing that my car caught fire. Never > > drank that tea again. JB > > |
http://www.teatalk.com/science/chemistry.htm
http://www.teatalk.com/science/chemistry.htm http://www.teatalk.com/science/chemistry.htm http://www.herbalremedies.com/aminoacids.html http://www.fmltea.com/Teainfo/tea-chemistry%20.htm :") They provide some interesting details about the effects of these chemicals on the body, for the exact compounds in the tea such as the Lonjing 43, I refer to Zhongguo Mingcha Tupu - Lü Cha Pian (An illustrated guide to Famous China Teas - Green Teas volume), edited by Shi Hai Gen. They seem to have produced only one volume on green tea and the project was stalled. It'll be great for us all if they had contiune and give us more on the other teas. Samar "WadeM" > wrote in message ... > Thank you for your informative reply. I am wondering where you found, or > one > can find, this type of information? I suppose a Google search would be a > good start. > > > "samarkand" > wrote in message > ... >> [Samar plays the scientist and says...] >> >> I'm not sure what grade or cultivar of Dragon Well you drank, but taking > the >> Longjing 43 cultivar as an example, a spring pick of that cultivar for >> processing into Dragon Well will yield the following main biochemicals: >> >> Amino Acid: 3.7% >> Polyphenols: 18.5% >> Catechins: 12.1% >> Caffeine: 4.0% >> Ratio of polyphenols and amino acids: 4.98 >> >> All the above would contribute to the clam state of mind, especially from >> the amino acids, which contain a chemical y-aminobutyric acid (GABARON), >> which calms the mind by slowing or inhibiting the movement of brain > neurons. >> Between caffeine and y-aminobutyric acid, a balance is struck and it > leaves >> you languid but aware of your surrounding. >> >> It sounds simplistic, I'm sure there's more involved, but at least you >> get >> the gist of it. >> >> Samar >> >> "J Boehm" > wrote in message >> et... >> > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0000, WadeM wrote: >> > >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more >> >> specifically >> >> Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as >> >> though >> >> I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly >> >> a >> >> state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea >> >> that >> >> have this effect. Anyone else notice this? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> > Yes, same here. I once had a little bit too much of Gunpowder tea, > enough >> > to sedate me sufficiently to not noticing that my car caught fire. >> > Never >> > drank that tea again. JB >> >> > > |
"Michael Plant" > wrote in message ... > Samar, > > Could you say more about the various Long Jins? I'm curious about the > "43" > part. Are there many different varietals, or sub-varietals? Are they > relatively new? Is there an old "traditional" varietal, which is > considered > classical, and from which the others derive? How can I know which of the > sub-varietals I'm drinking? And so on. > > Thanks. > > Michael > > Certainly, Michael. There are several cultivars that can be made into Longjing, the most widely used a 1. C. sinensis cv. Longjing 43 2. C. sinensis cv. Longjing-changye 3. C. sinensis cv. Longjingzhong 4. C. sinensis cv. Pinyang-tezaocha 5. C. sinensis cv. Xiapu-yuanxiaolü The 1st 4 are from the Zhejiang province, but the 5th was from Fujian province, and cultivated in northern Zhejiang. I understand that there are cultivars in Yunnan being tested as Longjing - I guess this is the ripple effects of market demands for the renown teas in China that the farmers also want to jump on the wagon for a piece of the pie, so they put their teas to the test and see if it fool buyers and secure a niche for themselves. The sad low down on this is that the consumer will be confused for the varying flavours and qualities of a tea... The only way to determine which varietals you are drinking, is to look for the physical evidences... Lonjing 43 - leaf: oval shape, colour: deep green, blade: waxy, smooth & flat, leaf margin: slightly wavy with dense but shallow serration, leaf apex: tapers gradually, Lonjing-changye - leaf: long oval shape, colour: bright green, blade: smooth & slightly undulated, leaf margin: wavy with fine dense serration, leaf apex: tapers gradually. Longjingzhong - this is a collective varietal - leaf: long oval, oval and few round shapes, colour: usually bright green, blade: smooth & slight undulated, leaf margin: slightly wavy with dense fine serration, leaf apex: gradual tapers, rounded apex. Xiapu-yuanxiaolü - leaf: long oval,, colour: bright green, blade: waxy, surface slightly raised, leaf margin: slightly wavy with blunt & shallow serration, leaf apex: gradual tapers. Besides the Longjingzhong varietals, the other 4 varietals were found pretty recently, in the last 50 years or less. Hope this answers your queries? Samar |
"Michael Plant" > wrote in message ... > Samar, > > Could you say more about the various Long Jins? I'm curious about the > "43" > part. Are there many different varietals, or sub-varietals? Are they > relatively new? Is there an old "traditional" varietal, which is > considered > classical, and from which the others derive? How can I know which of the > sub-varietals I'm drinking? And so on. > > Thanks. > > Michael > > Certainly, Michael. There are several cultivars that can be made into Longjing, the most widely used a 1. C. sinensis cv. Longjing 43 2. C. sinensis cv. Longjing-changye 3. C. sinensis cv. Longjingzhong 4. C. sinensis cv. Pinyang-tezaocha 5. C. sinensis cv. Xiapu-yuanxiaolü The 1st 4 are from the Zhejiang province, but the 5th was from Fujian province, and cultivated in northern Zhejiang. I understand that there are cultivars in Yunnan being tested as Longjing - I guess this is the ripple effects of market demands for the renown teas in China that the farmers also want to jump on the wagon for a piece of the pie, so they put their teas to the test and see if it fool buyers and secure a niche for themselves. The sad low down on this is that the consumer will be confused for the varying flavours and qualities of a tea... The only way to determine which varietals you are drinking, is to look for the physical evidences... Lonjing 43 - leaf: oval shape, colour: deep green, blade: waxy, smooth & flat, leaf margin: slightly wavy with dense but shallow serration, leaf apex: tapers gradually, Lonjing-changye - leaf: long oval shape, colour: bright green, blade: smooth & slightly undulated, leaf margin: wavy with fine dense serration, leaf apex: tapers gradually. Longjingzhong - this is a collective varietal - leaf: long oval, oval and few round shapes, colour: usually bright green, blade: smooth & slight undulated, leaf margin: slightly wavy with dense fine serration, leaf apex: gradual tapers, rounded apex. Xiapu-yuanxiaolü - leaf: long oval,, colour: bright green, blade: waxy, surface slightly raised, leaf margin: slightly wavy with blunt & shallow serration, leaf apex: gradual tapers. Besides the Longjingzhong varietals, the other 4 varietals were found pretty recently, in the last 50 years or less. Hope this answers your queries? Samar |
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> > Besides the Longjingzhong varietals, the other 4 varietals were found > pretty recently, in the last 50 years or less. > > Hope this answers your queries? > > Samar Great info, Samar, thanks a million. Sasha. |
> > Besides the Longjingzhong varietals, the other 4 varietals were found > pretty recently, in the last 50 years or less. > > Hope this answers your queries? > > Samar Great info, Samar, thanks a million. Sasha. |
No, I enjoy answering queries like this, it gives me the opportunity to dig
deeper under the surface. I don't have at hand the history of these varietals, give me some time and I hope to unearth some info for you... Samar "Michael Plant" > wrote in message ... > 10/26/04 > [answering a question about Long Jing sub-varietals] > >> Certainly, Michael. >> >> There are several cultivars that can be made into Longjing, the most >> widely >> used a >> >> 1. C. sinensis cv. Longjing 43 >> 2. C. sinensis cv. Longjing-changye >> 3. C. sinensis cv. Longjingzhong >> 4. C. sinensis cv. Pinyang-tezaocha >> 5. C. sinensis cv. Xiapu-yuanxiaol > > Samar and Other Knowledgable Persons of Good Family, > > Could you help me understand something of the history of these? For > example, which is the historic parent, or parents, and which is considered > the most classic? What tastes and styles are associated with each? > (Don't > mean to be a pain in the butt, but I'm interested.) > > Michael > |
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