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crymad wrote:
>What exactly do you mean by "mass-market" loose tea? Loose tea >available in groceries and department stores? Because this tea is most >assuredly Japanese in origin. By "mass market" I was referring to the major brands sold by big Japanese food companies, as opposed to teas available only regionally or in high-priced specialty shops. A lot of the lower-priced teas are from China and only packaged in Japan: The Japanese address on the package may just mean that the company's offices are headquartered there. Just as many teas sold as "Shizuoka teas" were grown elsewhere and processed (or maybe even only packaged) at a plant in Shizuoka. (And just as a lot of wines bearing the name "Napa" weren't made there, only "cellared" in Napa.) I'm sure there is a long list of "specs"--color and shape of the leaves and whatnot--that the Japanese company hands over to the processor, the same as if they were having memory chips made. Mind you, I'm not trying to cast aspersions on a tea just because it's from China; in fact, the best greens this wide world may very well come from there. But it is a shame that the big companies that sell tea in Japan are putting small growers out of business there by switching to Chinese sources as a cost-saving measure. Michael Plant wrote: > Regarding the "Chinese-vs-Japanese debate, I say No contest in the sense of > "why contest?" I enjoy Japanese and Chinese greens, with my experience and > overall preference leaning toward the latter. You did not, it sounds like, > experience a good Chinese green tea. You're right. I was simply revealing my ignorance with regard to the popularity of green tea among the Chinese, as well as my own limited experience with their greens. Thank you kindly for the recommendations; I believe I'll begin by seeking out a few at one of the Asian markets in the area. Ah, but the world of green tea is such a wide and diverse one! |
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crymad wrote:
>What exactly do you mean by "mass-market" loose tea? Loose tea >available in groceries and department stores? Because this tea is most >assuredly Japanese in origin. By "mass market" I was referring to the major brands sold by big Japanese food companies, as opposed to teas available only regionally or in high-priced specialty shops. A lot of the lower-priced teas are from China and only packaged in Japan: The Japanese address on the package may just mean that the company's offices are headquartered there. Just as many teas sold as "Shizuoka teas" were grown elsewhere and processed (or maybe even only packaged) at a plant in Shizuoka. (And just as a lot of wines bearing the name "Napa" weren't made there, only "cellared" in Napa.) I'm sure there is a long list of "specs"--color and shape of the leaves and whatnot--that the Japanese company hands over to the processor, the same as if they were having memory chips made. Mind you, I'm not trying to cast aspersions on a tea just because it's from China; in fact, the best greens this wide world may very well come from there. But it is a shame that the big companies that sell tea in Japan are putting small growers out of business there by switching to Chinese sources as a cost-saving measure. Michael Plant wrote: > Regarding the "Chinese-vs-Japanese debate, I say No contest in the sense of > "why contest?" I enjoy Japanese and Chinese greens, with my experience and > overall preference leaning toward the latter. You did not, it sounds like, > experience a good Chinese green tea. You're right. I was simply revealing my ignorance with regard to the popularity of green tea among the Chinese, as well as my own limited experience with their greens. Thank you kindly for the recommendations; I believe I'll begin by seeking out a few at one of the Asian markets in the area. Ah, but the world of green tea is such a wide and diverse one! |
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Sean McEntee wrote: > > crymad wrote: > >What exactly do you mean by "mass-market" loose tea? Loose tea > >available in groceries and department stores? Because this tea is > most > >assuredly Japanese in origin. > > By "mass market" I was referring to the major brands sold by big > Japanese food companies, as opposed to teas available only regionally > or in high-priced specialty shops. A lot of the lower-priced teas are > from China and only packaged in Japan: The Japanese address on the > package may just mean that the company's offices are headquartered > there. Please give an example of a major brand of loose tea sold by a big Japanese food company. --crymad |
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Sean McEntee wrote: > > crymad wrote: > >What exactly do you mean by "mass-market" loose tea? Loose tea > >available in groceries and department stores? Because this tea is > most > >assuredly Japanese in origin. > > By "mass market" I was referring to the major brands sold by big > Japanese food companies, as opposed to teas available only regionally > or in high-priced specialty shops. A lot of the lower-priced teas are > from China and only packaged in Japan: The Japanese address on the > package may just mean that the company's offices are headquartered > there. Please give an example of a major brand of loose tea sold by a big Japanese food company. --crymad |
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crymad > wrote:
>Please give an example of a major brand of loose tea sold by a big >Japanese food company. Major here or major in Japan? --Blair "Doesn't Lipton do Japanese teas?" |
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crymad > wrote:
>Please give an example of a major brand of loose tea sold by a big >Japanese food company. Major here or major in Japan? --Blair "Doesn't Lipton do Japanese teas?" |
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crymad > wrote in message >...
> Please give an example of a major brand of loose tea sold by a big > Japanese food company. Mitsui, for one, have set up many Japanese style tea factories in China using Japanese clones, Japanese steaming method of enzyme inactivation, Japanese process equipment (now made in China) and produce Japanese style tea for import into Japan. Nigel at Teacraft |
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crymad > wrote in message >...
> Please give an example of a major brand of loose tea sold by a big > Japanese food company. Mitsui, for one, have set up many Japanese style tea factories in China using Japanese clones, Japanese steaming method of enzyme inactivation, Japanese process equipment (now made in China) and produce Japanese style tea for import into Japan. Nigel at Teacraft |
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Nigel at Teacraft wrote: > > crymad > wrote in message >... > > > Please give an example of a major brand of loose tea sold by a big > > Japanese food company. > > Mitsui, for one, have set up many Japanese style tea factories in > China using Japanese clones, Japanese steaming method of enzyme > inactivation, Japanese process equipment (now made in China) and > produce Japanese style tea for import into Japan. Does Mitsui/Nittoh sell retail loose-leaf green tea? I'm not aware of any. I'm digging through the Mitsui company homepage trying to get a breakdown of their product offerings, but the links aren't working properly for me at the moment. That Chinese tea is imported into Japan is indisputable, though. Here is an article discussing the topic: http://www.lookjapan.com/LBsc/02SeptFacts.htm According to the article, Japan had a 2001 domestic green tea production of a little over 90,000 tons. Imported green tea from China that year totaled 17,700 tons. Of that 17,700 tons, approximately 8000 tons were used in the production of prepackaged tea drinks -- tea beverages in bottles and cans. Which leaves us with 10,000 tons unaccountable for; the article hints that some of this Chinese product is probably used as filler for mixing with domestic tea to keep prices down. The dining industry is another possible endpoint for some of this Chinese tea, either mixed or uncut, but the article doesn't address this. At any rate, to suggest that Japan is awash in washi bags of Chinese tea posing as domestic beauties to be sold off to unsuspecting consumers is preposterous. --crymad |
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Nigel at Teacraft wrote: > > crymad > wrote in message >... > > > Please give an example of a major brand of loose tea sold by a big > > Japanese food company. > > Mitsui, for one, have set up many Japanese style tea factories in > China using Japanese clones, Japanese steaming method of enzyme > inactivation, Japanese process equipment (now made in China) and > produce Japanese style tea for import into Japan. Does Mitsui/Nittoh sell retail loose-leaf green tea? I'm not aware of any. I'm digging through the Mitsui company homepage trying to get a breakdown of their product offerings, but the links aren't working properly for me at the moment. That Chinese tea is imported into Japan is indisputable, though. Here is an article discussing the topic: http://www.lookjapan.com/LBsc/02SeptFacts.htm According to the article, Japan had a 2001 domestic green tea production of a little over 90,000 tons. Imported green tea from China that year totaled 17,700 tons. Of that 17,700 tons, approximately 8000 tons were used in the production of prepackaged tea drinks -- tea beverages in bottles and cans. Which leaves us with 10,000 tons unaccountable for; the article hints that some of this Chinese product is probably used as filler for mixing with domestic tea to keep prices down. The dining industry is another possible endpoint for some of this Chinese tea, either mixed or uncut, but the article doesn't address this. At any rate, to suggest that Japan is awash in washi bags of Chinese tea posing as domestic beauties to be sold off to unsuspecting consumers is preposterous. --crymad |
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"crymad" > wrote in message > Does Mitsui/Nittoh sell retail loose-leaf green tea? They do, prepacked leaves in supermarkets and more often combinis. For the equivalent product, they are not cheaper than the specialty shops. I don't believe they cheat on the origine. In loose leaves, Chinese teas (sold as Chinese) tend to be more expensive than Japanese ones. The price of Japanese teas has droped a lot because of deflation. The lower-end loose leaves you get in discount shops are sold 200yen per 100 g, and sometimes less. They are grown and produced in Uji (I know people from there, they are not running a fictionnal tea plantation for tourists). Not all Japanese production is top grade gyokuro. The cheaper teas you can get, if you are really counting your yens are lower-end "made in Japan" houji-cha, kona-cha and genmaicha (it's written on some packs that the popcorns are grown in China). I guess Mitsui and Suntory are producing tea in China mostly because they aim the Chinese market and maybe global exports (shrinking Japanese market is not worth the effort). And there, their interest is to sell "Japanese style tea" to differenciate from competitors. > According to the article, Japan had a 2001 domestic green tea production > of a little over 90,000 tons. Imported green tea from China that year > totaled 17,700 tons. Of that 17,700 tons, approximately 8000 tons were > used in the production of prepackaged tea drinks -- tea beverages in > bottles and cans. Which leaves us with 10,000 tons unaccountable for; Chinese tea is sold for itself. I don't know when you left Japan, Crymad, but at least in cities, the taste of people has evoluated and lifestyle for food and drinks is getting internationalized. People are used to foreign imports, half of them from China. It is done openly. Local supermarkets offer a choice of wulongs, flower teas, tuo chas and now greens too are getting very popular. Of course, department stores always had Chinese tea corners and they are specialty shops of Chinese products. In the last ten years, a number of Asian tea rooms have opened averywhere, and they also sell Chinese teas of average to top categories. For me, it's getting easier everyday to shop for top-grade Chinese teas. In your figure, do they consider wulong and puer as green ? In many stores they do, they classify "kocha" and "sencha" (on shelves, on receipts), I suspect they count the same way. In such case 10, 000 tons seems little, but I don't know the share of Taiwan. I think globally, the amount of Chinese teas (Taiwan + China) is equivalent to that of Japanese teas. But there is no "false Japanese tea" here. Anyway, it's a classical hoax. Also heard it about rice (that is supposed to be mass-produced in Australia and relabelled in Japan), about artisanal silk hand-made kimonos imported from Taiwan mass-factories, all hand-made potteries or objects being false cheapies, etc. That was probably published in a cheap tourist guidebook. Tons of foreigners just arrived in Japan tell you that. It's not that fraud doesn't exist in Japan, there are cases regularly, like anywhere else on earth. But massive "cheating" on quality products, I think the Japanese consumers would be the last ones to allow it. Kuri |
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"crymad" > wrote in message > Does Mitsui/Nittoh sell retail loose-leaf green tea? They do, prepacked leaves in supermarkets and more often combinis. For the equivalent product, they are not cheaper than the specialty shops. I don't believe they cheat on the origine. In loose leaves, Chinese teas (sold as Chinese) tend to be more expensive than Japanese ones. The price of Japanese teas has droped a lot because of deflation. The lower-end loose leaves you get in discount shops are sold 200yen per 100 g, and sometimes less. They are grown and produced in Uji (I know people from there, they are not running a fictionnal tea plantation for tourists). Not all Japanese production is top grade gyokuro. The cheaper teas you can get, if you are really counting your yens are lower-end "made in Japan" houji-cha, kona-cha and genmaicha (it's written on some packs that the popcorns are grown in China). I guess Mitsui and Suntory are producing tea in China mostly because they aim the Chinese market and maybe global exports (shrinking Japanese market is not worth the effort). And there, their interest is to sell "Japanese style tea" to differenciate from competitors. > According to the article, Japan had a 2001 domestic green tea production > of a little over 90,000 tons. Imported green tea from China that year > totaled 17,700 tons. Of that 17,700 tons, approximately 8000 tons were > used in the production of prepackaged tea drinks -- tea beverages in > bottles and cans. Which leaves us with 10,000 tons unaccountable for; Chinese tea is sold for itself. I don't know when you left Japan, Crymad, but at least in cities, the taste of people has evoluated and lifestyle for food and drinks is getting internationalized. People are used to foreign imports, half of them from China. It is done openly. Local supermarkets offer a choice of wulongs, flower teas, tuo chas and now greens too are getting very popular. Of course, department stores always had Chinese tea corners and they are specialty shops of Chinese products. In the last ten years, a number of Asian tea rooms have opened averywhere, and they also sell Chinese teas of average to top categories. For me, it's getting easier everyday to shop for top-grade Chinese teas. In your figure, do they consider wulong and puer as green ? In many stores they do, they classify "kocha" and "sencha" (on shelves, on receipts), I suspect they count the same way. In such case 10, 000 tons seems little, but I don't know the share of Taiwan. I think globally, the amount of Chinese teas (Taiwan + China) is equivalent to that of Japanese teas. But there is no "false Japanese tea" here. Anyway, it's a classical hoax. Also heard it about rice (that is supposed to be mass-produced in Australia and relabelled in Japan), about artisanal silk hand-made kimonos imported from Taiwan mass-factories, all hand-made potteries or objects being false cheapies, etc. That was probably published in a cheap tourist guidebook. Tons of foreigners just arrived in Japan tell you that. It's not that fraud doesn't exist in Japan, there are cases regularly, like anywhere else on earth. But massive "cheating" on quality products, I think the Japanese consumers would be the last ones to allow it. Kuri |
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cc wrote: > > "crymad" > wrote in message > > > Does Mitsui/Nittoh sell retail loose-leaf green tea? > > They do, prepacked leaves in supermarkets and more often combinis. For the > equivalent product, they are not cheaper than the specialty shops. This is loose tea that must be prepared in a tea pot, and not tea bags? > > According to the article, Japan had a 2001 domestic green tea production > > of a little over 90,000 tons. Imported green tea from China that year > > totaled 17,700 tons. Of that 17,700 tons, approximately 8000 tons were > > used in the production of prepackaged tea drinks -- tea beverages in > > bottles and cans. Which leaves us with 10,000 tons unaccountable for; > > Chinese tea is sold for itself. I don't know when you left Japan, Crymad, > but at least in cities, the taste of people has evoluated and lifestyle for > food and drinks is getting internationalized. I left Japan just a few years ago. Is Chinese tea really that much more popular now? > > In your figure, do they consider wulong and puer as green ? That is a good question. I kind of doubt it, though, as the article addressed foreign equivalents to Japanese tea. > > But there is no "false Japanese tea" here. Anyway, it's a classical hoax. > Also heard it about rice (that is supposed to be mass-produced in Australia > and relabelled in Japan), about artisanal silk hand-made kimonos imported > from Taiwan mass-factories, all hand-made potteries or objects being false > cheapies, etc. That was probably published in a cheap tourist guidebook. > Tons of foreigners just arrived in Japan tell you that. > It's not that fraud doesn't exist in Japan, there are cases regularly, like > anywhere else on earth. But massive "cheating" on quality products, I think > the Japanese consumers would be the last ones to allow it. My thoughts exactly. Chinese tea has found its way into bottles and cans, and perhaps even into low-grade tea as filler. But quality tea, the kind we here on this group concern ourselves with, remains home grown. By the way, Kuri, are you Japanese? --crymad |
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cc wrote: > > "crymad" > wrote in message > > > Does Mitsui/Nittoh sell retail loose-leaf green tea? > > They do, prepacked leaves in supermarkets and more often combinis. For the > equivalent product, they are not cheaper than the specialty shops. This is loose tea that must be prepared in a tea pot, and not tea bags? > > According to the article, Japan had a 2001 domestic green tea production > > of a little over 90,000 tons. Imported green tea from China that year > > totaled 17,700 tons. Of that 17,700 tons, approximately 8000 tons were > > used in the production of prepackaged tea drinks -- tea beverages in > > bottles and cans. Which leaves us with 10,000 tons unaccountable for; > > Chinese tea is sold for itself. I don't know when you left Japan, Crymad, > but at least in cities, the taste of people has evoluated and lifestyle for > food and drinks is getting internationalized. I left Japan just a few years ago. Is Chinese tea really that much more popular now? > > In your figure, do they consider wulong and puer as green ? That is a good question. I kind of doubt it, though, as the article addressed foreign equivalents to Japanese tea. > > But there is no "false Japanese tea" here. Anyway, it's a classical hoax. > Also heard it about rice (that is supposed to be mass-produced in Australia > and relabelled in Japan), about artisanal silk hand-made kimonos imported > from Taiwan mass-factories, all hand-made potteries or objects being false > cheapies, etc. That was probably published in a cheap tourist guidebook. > Tons of foreigners just arrived in Japan tell you that. > It's not that fraud doesn't exist in Japan, there are cases regularly, like > anywhere else on earth. But massive "cheating" on quality products, I think > the Japanese consumers would be the last ones to allow it. My thoughts exactly. Chinese tea has found its way into bottles and cans, and perhaps even into low-grade tea as filler. But quality tea, the kind we here on this group concern ourselves with, remains home grown. By the way, Kuri, are you Japanese? --crymad |
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"crymad" > wrote in message > > > Does Mitsui/Nittoh sell retail loose-leaf green tea? > > > > They do, prepacked leaves in supermarkets and more often combinis. For the > > equivalent product, they are not cheaper than the specialty shops. > > This is loose tea that must be prepared in a tea pot, and not tea bags? Loose or bags or instant. Even "junk" brands give the choice. As anyway most people will use a teapot regardless it's bagged or not, and they can fill non-weaven bags with the loose leaves. Mistui is not a major in real tea. I was looking for it today, no shop in the area has that brand. I don't remember where I've seen it, they are probably linked with a chain of combinis. > I left Japan just a few years ago. Is Chinese tea really that much more > popular now? There are 2 things : about 4 or 5 years ago, the barriers to Chinese imports of food have disappeared. In 6 month time, 30 to 60% of supermarket/market products have been from China and labelled as such -after a little cheating at the start. At the same time, Western style discount supermarket have opened. Also the average price of food have drop of 50% (tons of shotengai shops and little farms made bankrupcy...). In Osaka, the change was spectacular. There was before and after. The people that would say "I buy only Japanese products." seem to have disappeared or they moved to live in the woods. You can no longer expect selling an ordinary product more expensive just because it's written "made in Japan" on it. Now, expensive products have to be special in quality. The other reason is everything linked to Chinese culture is extremely fashionable. That also came in the last 5 years. NHK education channel proposes more Chinese culture programs than ever (several ones about tea). Eikaiwa industry propose Chinese conversation classes. Even universities had to increase the number of classes of Chinese as the students asked it. "Asian cafes" (specialised in Chinese tea) are opening in trendy areas -while the number of Japanese tearooms is dropping (I'm not sure many are left outside historical tourists area like in Kyoto or Nara). Also, if you browse the internet, you will find that doing exclusively Japanese tea ceremony is now a bit alt-modish. The young tea students still learn it -I'm talking about those that are serious in their interest for tea not the posers that kill time expensively- but they also study about other teas to become "tea sommelier". A bit like flower-arrangement has stolen most of the students from dusty ikebana schools. Of course, Chinese teas and serving manners are a major part of the new tea studies. > By the way, Kuri, are you Japanese? No, I'm French. I've lived in Osaka for about 7 years. Where are your relatives from ? Could they send you Shincha ? I've heard about that "anti-terrorist law" on TV the other day. It is an American domestic law to control imports, and the Japanese don't seem to have decided what to do. Several post-office directors interviewed said they didn't know how to register people or couldn't do it. They didn't say if they accepted the parcels anyway and if the US customs accepted or rejected them. This week, I'm enjoying the Kagoshima Nouveau (I guess the boat from China delivers there first, so it arrives earlier). I'll get of the new Uji this week-end, and also a new crystal pot to observe the beautiful color of the leaves. Kuri |
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"crymad" > wrote in message > > > Does Mitsui/Nittoh sell retail loose-leaf green tea? > > > > They do, prepacked leaves in supermarkets and more often combinis. For the > > equivalent product, they are not cheaper than the specialty shops. > > This is loose tea that must be prepared in a tea pot, and not tea bags? Loose or bags or instant. Even "junk" brands give the choice. As anyway most people will use a teapot regardless it's bagged or not, and they can fill non-weaven bags with the loose leaves. Mistui is not a major in real tea. I was looking for it today, no shop in the area has that brand. I don't remember where I've seen it, they are probably linked with a chain of combinis. > I left Japan just a few years ago. Is Chinese tea really that much more > popular now? There are 2 things : about 4 or 5 years ago, the barriers to Chinese imports of food have disappeared. In 6 month time, 30 to 60% of supermarket/market products have been from China and labelled as such -after a little cheating at the start. At the same time, Western style discount supermarket have opened. Also the average price of food have drop of 50% (tons of shotengai shops and little farms made bankrupcy...). In Osaka, the change was spectacular. There was before and after. The people that would say "I buy only Japanese products." seem to have disappeared or they moved to live in the woods. You can no longer expect selling an ordinary product more expensive just because it's written "made in Japan" on it. Now, expensive products have to be special in quality. The other reason is everything linked to Chinese culture is extremely fashionable. That also came in the last 5 years. NHK education channel proposes more Chinese culture programs than ever (several ones about tea). Eikaiwa industry propose Chinese conversation classes. Even universities had to increase the number of classes of Chinese as the students asked it. "Asian cafes" (specialised in Chinese tea) are opening in trendy areas -while the number of Japanese tearooms is dropping (I'm not sure many are left outside historical tourists area like in Kyoto or Nara). Also, if you browse the internet, you will find that doing exclusively Japanese tea ceremony is now a bit alt-modish. The young tea students still learn it -I'm talking about those that are serious in their interest for tea not the posers that kill time expensively- but they also study about other teas to become "tea sommelier". A bit like flower-arrangement has stolen most of the students from dusty ikebana schools. Of course, Chinese teas and serving manners are a major part of the new tea studies. > By the way, Kuri, are you Japanese? No, I'm French. I've lived in Osaka for about 7 years. Where are your relatives from ? Could they send you Shincha ? I've heard about that "anti-terrorist law" on TV the other day. It is an American domestic law to control imports, and the Japanese don't seem to have decided what to do. Several post-office directors interviewed said they didn't know how to register people or couldn't do it. They didn't say if they accepted the parcels anyway and if the US customs accepted or rejected them. This week, I'm enjoying the Kagoshima Nouveau (I guess the boat from China delivers there first, so it arrives earlier). I'll get of the new Uji this week-end, and also a new crystal pot to observe the beautiful color of the leaves. Kuri |
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Hey Kuri,
I enjoy your insights from Japan. A crystal teapot, that's something I never seen. Jim "cc" > wrote in message >... snip ... > This week, I'm enjoying the Kagoshima Nouveau (I guess the boat from China > delivers there first, so it arrives earlier). I'll get of the new Uji this > week-end, and also a new crystal pot to observe the beautiful color of the > leaves. > > Kuri |
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Hey Kuri,
I enjoy your insights from Japan. A crystal teapot, that's something I never seen. Jim "cc" > wrote in message >... snip ... > This week, I'm enjoying the Kagoshima Nouveau (I guess the boat from China > delivers there first, so it arrives earlier). I'll get of the new Uji this > week-end, and also a new crystal pot to observe the beautiful color of the > leaves. > > Kuri |
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cc wrote: > > "crymad" > wrote in message > > > By the way, Kuri, are you Japanese? > > No, I'm French. I've lived in Osaka for about 7 years. > Where are your relatives from ? Could they send you Shincha ? My wife's family is in the heart of Kyushu tea country. Sadly, they haven't been able to send us any tea this year. > I've heard about that "anti-terrorist law" on TV the other day. It is an > American domestic law > to control imports, and the Japanese don't seem to have decided what to do. > Several post-office directors interviewed said they didn't know how to > register people or couldn't do it. They didn't say if they accepted the > parcels anyway and if the US customs accepted or rejected them. Yes, these postal difficulties are the cause of our tealessness. Apparently, homemade foodstuffs are not subject to these "anti-terroist" postal regulations. The hard part is just getting my wife's family to lie on the customs declaration forms. > This week, I'm enjoying the Kagoshima Nouveau (I guess the boat from China > delivers there first, so it arrives earlier). Haha. Those unscrupulous tea companies have to keep up appearances. It is still Japan, after all. --crymad |
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cc wrote: > > "crymad" > wrote in message > > > By the way, Kuri, are you Japanese? > > No, I'm French. I've lived in Osaka for about 7 years. > Where are your relatives from ? Could they send you Shincha ? My wife's family is in the heart of Kyushu tea country. Sadly, they haven't been able to send us any tea this year. > I've heard about that "anti-terrorist law" on TV the other day. It is an > American domestic law > to control imports, and the Japanese don't seem to have decided what to do. > Several post-office directors interviewed said they didn't know how to > register people or couldn't do it. They didn't say if they accepted the > parcels anyway and if the US customs accepted or rejected them. Yes, these postal difficulties are the cause of our tealessness. Apparently, homemade foodstuffs are not subject to these "anti-terroist" postal regulations. The hard part is just getting my wife's family to lie on the customs declaration forms. > This week, I'm enjoying the Kagoshima Nouveau (I guess the boat from China > delivers there first, so it arrives earlier). Haha. Those unscrupulous tea companies have to keep up appearances. It is still Japan, after all. --crymad |
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Chinese tea vs. Japanese tea
crymad > wrote in message >...
> DLG wrote: > > > About Chinese tea v.s. Japanese tea, I never been to Japan and seldom > > drink Japanese tea, so I won't comment on this, but I lived in China > > longer than Rich lived in Japan, and began to drink Chinese tea almost > > 15 years ago, so I know what I have been drinking, and what to drink > > according to different situations. > > Seldom drink Japanese tea? Please do comment on this. What about > Japanese tea finds you indifferent? > > --crymad THey shold make an anime/samurai battle bettween the two teas: J.Tea: (draws sward) BANISH YOUR SELF FROM MY LAND! C.Tea: (says quetly) You talk big but you've got nothing. J.Tea: (raises sward into the air) I'LL AVENGE MY FATHER!!! C.Tea: (draws sward then bursts into flame) HA! Your skill is weak! You have nothing! (SNIP: they fight) J.Tea: (bleading and lying on the ground) Kill me you coward. C.Tea: (says casualy) I'd hate to kill you. You see... you're my brother!!! J.Tea: (close up of eye) No... No.. you're not. C.Tea: (close up on smiling mouth) I am. (close up on C.Tea sward) Didnt you notice the sward i hold.... J.Tea: (Clenches teeth and says quietly) you killed him...(louder) YOU KILLED HIM!.. (quiet) I will break you. (J.Tea grabs the ground with one hand. He waits then stands up and raises his sward) J.Tea: (close up on eye) I see your soul and you've got nothing. |
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Chinese tea vs. Japanese tea
crymad > wrote in message >...
> DLG wrote: > > > About Chinese tea v.s. Japanese tea, I never been to Japan and seldom > > drink Japanese tea, so I won't comment on this, but I lived in China > > longer than Rich lived in Japan, and began to drink Chinese tea almost > > 15 years ago, so I know what I have been drinking, and what to drink > > according to different situations. > > Seldom drink Japanese tea? Please do comment on this. What about > Japanese tea finds you indifferent? > > --crymad THey shold make an anime/samurai battle bettween the two teas: J.Tea: (draws sward) BANISH YOUR SELF FROM MY LAND! C.Tea: (says quetly) You talk big but you've got nothing. J.Tea: (raises sward into the air) I'LL AVENGE MY FATHER!!! C.Tea: (draws sward then bursts into flame) HA! Your skill is weak! You have nothing! (SNIP: they fight) J.Tea: (bleading and lying on the ground) Kill me you coward. C.Tea: (says casualy) I'd hate to kill you. You see... you're my brother!!! J.Tea: (close up of eye) No... No.. you're not. C.Tea: (close up on smiling mouth) I am. (close up on C.Tea sward) Didnt you notice the sward i hold.... J.Tea: (Clenches teeth and says quietly) you killed him...(louder) YOU KILLED HIM!.. (quiet) I will break you. (J.Tea grabs the ground with one hand. He waits then stands up and raises his sward) J.Tea: (close up on eye) I see your soul and you've got nothing. |
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Chinese tea vs. Japanese tea
Andy Marshall wrote: > > Crymad - > Please enlighten me (and my Kumamoto-ken wife) where is Kyushu tea country? If you go by production tonnage, the Kyushu's real tea country is down at the tip, in Kagoshima. We were just a bit northwest from your wife's home, in Saga. --crymad |
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Chinese tea vs. Japanese tea
Andy Marshall wrote: > > Crymad - > Please enlighten me (and my Kumamoto-ken wife) where is Kyushu tea country? If you go by production tonnage, the Kyushu's real tea country is down at the tip, in Kagoshima. We were just a bit northwest from your wife's home, in Saga. --crymad |
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