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My mother has had a small stroke and the MD advises NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever. She really loves the delicate greens I've kept her busy
with over the years and being a bit of a tea snob myself, I wonder if
anyone knows of a decent green that complex and delicate and not just
a cheap sencha?
Any help is gratefully appreciated.
Shen

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On Feb 4, 3:11*pm, Shen wrote:
My mother has had a small stroke and the MD advises NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever. She really loves the delicate greens I've kept her busy
with over the years and being a bit of a tea snob myself, I wonder if
anyone knows of a decent green that complex and delicate and not just
a cheap sencha?
Any help is gratefully appreciated.
Shen


Sorry to hear that Shen, I hope everything is well now. The only thing
I can say is to look for carbon dioxide (CO2) decaffeinated green tea.
The other method ruins more of the taste and "benefits." Some decent
to high quality greens can be had in CO2 decaf but you have to look
and trust the vendor.

Hopefully this doesn't degenerate into one of the infamous "30-second
brew and discard" method arguments. The archives hold enough of those,
and I won't even offer my opinion on it here in hopes no one else will
either.

Good luck and I wish her the best!
- Dominic
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On Feb 4, 1:10*pm, "Dominic T." wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:11*pm, Shen wrote:

My mother has had a small stroke and the MD advises NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever. She really loves the delicate greens I've kept her busy
with over the years and being a bit of a tea snob myself, I wonder if
anyone knows of a decent green that complex and delicate and not just
a cheap sencha?
Any help is gratefully appreciated.
Shen


Sorry to hear that Shen, I hope everything is well now. The only thing
I can say is to look for carbon dioxide (CO2) decaffeinated green tea.
The other method ruins more of the taste and "benefits." Some decent
to high quality greens can be had in CO2 decaf but you have to look
and trust the vendor.

Hopefully this doesn't degenerate into one of the infamous "30-second
brew and discard" method arguments. The archives hold enough of those,
and I won't even offer my opinion on it here in hopes no one else will
either.

Good luck and I wish her the best!
- Dominic


Thanks, Dominic. I know about the "30 second blah-blah-blah" and my
hopes are the same.
The CO2 is all I'd consider; but, I am really looking for a really
nice tea. It would brighten up her day.
I agree with your comments about the regularly decaffeinated taste.
She's doing much better. Thank you.
Shen
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Shen writes:

On Feb 4, 1:10*pm, "Dominic T." wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:11*pm, Shen wrote:

My mother has had a small stroke and the MD advises NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever. She really loves the delicate greens I've kept her busy
with over the years and being a bit of a tea snob myself, I wonder if
anyone knows of a decent green that complex and delicate and not just
a cheap sencha?
Any help is gratefully appreciated.
Shen


Sorry to hear that Shen, I hope everything is well now. The only thing
I can say is to look for carbon dioxide (CO2) decaffeinated green tea.
The other method ruins more of the taste and "benefits." Some decent
to high quality greens can be had in CO2 decaf but you have to look
and trust the vendor.

Hopefully this doesn't degenerate into one of the infamous "30-second
brew and discard" method arguments. The archives hold enough of those,
and I won't even offer my opinion on it here in hopes no one else will
either.

Good luck and I wish her the best!
- Dominic


Thanks, Dominic. I know about the "30 second blah-blah-blah" and my
hopes are the same.
The CO2 is all I'd consider; but, I am really looking for a really
nice tea. It would brighten up her day.
I agree with your comments about the regularly decaffeinated taste.
She's doing much better. Thank you.


How confident are you in the premise of this search? That is to say,
do you think this physician has a good reason to forbid caffeine?

/Lew
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On Feb 4, 4:19*pm, Shen wrote:
Thanks, Dominic. I know about the "30 second blah-blah-blah" and my
hopes are the same.
The CO2 is all I'd consider; but, I am really looking for a really
nice tea. It would brighten up her day.
I agree with your comments about the regularly decaffeinated taste.
She's doing much better. Thank you.
Shen


Glad to hear, hey I totally forgot one great option: kukicha. Green or
roasted it has virtually no caffeine, but probably a slight amount.
Honeybush might also be a neat option to try. I'm having a hard time
thinking of any "great" decaf green tea sources off the top of my
head, Google will probably turn up a bunch and it will be a bit of a
crap-shoot but you may find some good stuff with some trial and error.
When I get a couple extra minutes I'll do some research and get back
to ya.

- Dominic


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"Dominic T." writes:

On Feb 4, 4:19*pm, Shen wrote:
Thanks, Dominic. I know about the "30 second blah-blah-blah" and my
hopes are the same.
The CO2 is all I'd consider; but, I am really looking for a really
nice tea. It would brighten up her day.
I agree with your comments about the regularly decaffeinated taste.
She's doing much better. Thank you.
Shen


Glad to hear, hey I totally forgot one great option: kukicha. Green or
roasted it has virtually no caffeine, but probably a slight amount.


Sorry, that needs clarification. What you say is true if the kukicha
is only twigs, but there are also kukichas being sold that are more
leaf than twig.

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Shen wrote:
Thanks, Dominic. I know about the "30 second blah-blah-blah" and my
hopes are the same.
The CO2 is all I'd consider; but, I am really looking for a really
nice tea. It would brighten up her day.
I agree with your comments about the regularly decaffeinated taste.
She's doing much better. Thank you.


Try the decaf greens from Upton's. They aren't wonderful but they aren't
terrible, and they don't have the weird solvent aftertaste.
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On Feb 5, 9:59*am, Lewis Perin wrote:
Sorry, that needs clarification. *What you say is true if the kukicha
is only twigs, but there are also kukichas being sold that are more
leaf than twig.

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Yes, you're correct. The thing is that it varies and is impossible to
guess on. Either way, even with some bits of leaf, it is virtually
decaf... it's kinda the same as an NA beer, it has a small amount but
at least it is still close to the real thing with the least
compromise. It's a tough thing, the few decaf greens I've had have
been at best middle of the road. One time I had some Shincha that had
been labeled as decaf, but I have no way to verify if it really was,
it was excellent but brought back by a friend directly from Japan.

- Dominic
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On Feb 4, 1:11*pm, Shen wrote:
My mother has had a small stroke and the MD advises NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever. She really loves the delicate greens I've kept her busy
with over the years and being a bit of a tea snob myself, I wonder if
anyone knows of a decent green that complex and delicate and not just
a cheap sencha?
Any help is gratefully appreciated.
Shen


Shen,

Sorry to hear about your mother. If the doc said "NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever", then even decaf is out. There is always a small amount of
caffeine left in the tea. I'm speaking as a consumer; the experts in
the group can confirm or refute my statement.

So, looks like you should be on the lookout for a tisane (no, I won't
type "teasane"; wait, I just did). I don't like most "herbal teas",
especially those that are based on hibiscus flowers, but I really like
a pure peppermint tisane when I don't want caffeine. Honeybush is
fine, too. Just depends on what mom likes. There's plenty to choose
from! I hope you find one she likes.

Alan
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If you want something that looks like tea, smells like tea, brews like
tea, taste like tea I recommend Tianshan Lushui aka Wild Bitter tea
and is caffeine free. It comes from the same holly bush as kuding but
is the leaf version not the stick.

Jim

On Feb 5, 7:10 pm, Alan wrote:
On Feb 4, 1:11 pm, Shen wrote:

My mother has had a small stroke and the MD advises NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever. She really loves the delicate greens I've kept her busy
with over the years and being a bit of a tea snob myself, I wonder if
anyone knows of a decent green that complex and delicate and not just
a cheap sencha?
Any help is gratefully appreciated.
Shen


Shen,

Sorry to hear about your mother. If the doc said "NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever", then even decaf is out. There is always a small amount of
caffeine left in the tea. I'm speaking as a consumer; the experts in
the group can confirm or refute my statement.

So, looks like you should be on the lookout for a tisane (no, I won't
type "teasane"; wait, I just did). I don't like most "herbal teas",
especially those that are based on hibiscus flowers, but I really like
a pure peppermint tisane when I don't want caffeine. Honeybush is
fine, too. Just depends on what mom likes. There's plenty to choose
from! I hope you find one she likes.

Alan



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there are also some pretty decent herbals around.. try out a few.. i
dont really know what you like and whats available where you live.. but
its worth a try!

My mother has had a small stroke and the MD advises NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever. She really loves the delicate greens I've kept her busy
with over the years and being a bit of a tea snob myself, I wonder if
anyone knows of a decent green that complex and delicate and not just
a cheap sencha?
Any help is gratefully appreciated.
Shen

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On Feb 6, 8:30*am, wrote:
If you want something that looks like tea, smells like tea, brews like
tea, taste like tea I recommend Tianshan Lushui aka Wild Bitter tea
and is caffeine free. *It comes from the same holly bush as kuding but
is the leaf version not the stick.

Jim


Not to make light of the situation, but the poor woman has been
through enough! Sorry.

- Dominic

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On Feb 4, 2:31*pm, Lewis Perin wrote:
Shen writes:
On Feb 4, 1:10*pm, "Dominic T." wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:11*pm, Shen wrote:


My mother has had a small stroke and the MD advises NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever. She really loves the delicate greens I've kept her busy
with over the years and being a bit of a tea snob myself, I wonder if
anyone knows of a decent green that complex and delicate and not just
a cheap sencha?
Any help is gratefully appreciated.
Shen


Sorry to hear that Shen, I hope everything is well now. The only thing
I can say is to look for carbon dioxide (CO2) decaffeinated green tea..
The other method ruins more of the taste and "benefits." Some decent
to high quality greens can be had in CO2 decaf but you have to look
and trust the vendor.


Hopefully this doesn't degenerate into one of the infamous "30-second
brew and discard" method arguments. The archives hold enough of those,
and I won't even offer my opinion on it here in hopes no one else will
either.


Good luck and I wish her the best!
- Dominic


Thanks, Dominic. I know about the "30 second blah-blah-blah" and my
hopes are the same.
The CO2 is all I'd consider; but, I am really looking for a really
nice tea. It would brighten up her day.
I agree with your comments about the regularly decaffeinated taste.
She's doing much better. Thank you.


How confident are you in the premise of this search? *That is to say,
do you think this physician has a good reason to forbid caffeine?

/Lew
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You know, Lew, in my practice, I've come to realize that there really
are no "normal" standards or ranges. The human body is so unique to
each and every one of us.
She is just one of those people who reacts profoundly (with BP
increase) to even the slightest hint of caffeine.
I found it interesting that an allopathic MD was able to garner this;
but, luckily, he did.
Because of this serious sensitivity, I'd rather not attempt kukicha.
I think I'll go ahead and contact Upton's. It may be the best of what
I guess I arrogantly consider poor choices. But, Upton's, at least,
has some decent quality control and beats Lipton's.
My thanks to all of you for your kind input.
Nice to be on this board again!
Shen
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On Feb 6, 11:37*am, Shen wrote:
On Feb 4, 2:31*pm, Lewis Perin wrote:





Shen writes:
On Feb 4, 1:10*pm, "Dominic T." wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:11*pm, Shen wrote:


My mother has had a small stroke and the MD advises NO CAFFEINE
whatsoever. She really loves the delicate greens I've kept her busy
with over the years and being a bit of a tea snob myself, I wonder if
anyone knows of a decent green that complex and delicate and not just
a cheap sencha?
Any help is gratefully appreciated.
Shen


Sorry to hear that Shen, I hope everything is well now. The only thing
I can say is to look for carbon dioxide (CO2) decaffeinated green tea.
The other method ruins more of the taste and "benefits." Some decent
to high quality greens can be had in CO2 decaf but you have to look
and trust the vendor.


Hopefully this doesn't degenerate into one of the infamous "30-second
brew and discard" method arguments. The archives hold enough of those,
and I won't even offer my opinion on it here in hopes no one else will
either.


Good luck and I wish her the best!
- Dominic


Thanks, Dominic. I know about the "30 second blah-blah-blah" and my
hopes are the same.
The CO2 is all I'd consider; but, I am really looking for a really
nice tea. It would brighten up her day.
I agree with your comments about the regularly decaffeinated taste.
She's doing much better. Thank you.


How confident are you in the premise of this search? *That is to say,
do you think this physician has a good reason to forbid caffeine?


/Lew
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You know, Lew, in my practice, I've come to realize that there really
are no "normal" standards or ranges. The human body is so unique to
each and every one of us.
She is just one of those people who reacts profoundly (with BP
increase) to even the slightest hint of caffeine.
I found it interesting that an allopathic MD was able to garner this;
but, luckily, he did.
Because of this serious sensitivity, I'd rather not attempt kukicha.
I think I'll go ahead and contact Upton's. It may be the best of what
I guess I arrogantly consider poor choices. But, Upton's, at least,
has some decent quality control and beats Lipton's.
My thanks to all of you for your kind input.
Nice to be on this board again!
Shen- Hide quoted text -

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Shen,

If your mom "reacts profoundly (with BP increase) to even the
slightest hint of caffeine", then DON'T get a decaf green tea. It will
still contain a little caffeine. Go the herbal route.

Good luck!

Alan


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